It is pretty much Climax Form for a lack of comparison. :lolol

Thanks for clearing up the confusion I got mixed up because I've been binge watching Og ultraman

Thanks

How would you picture a Zi-O summer movie? Where to have it take place? And what number of new riders?

I originally expected it to be about Showa Riders; but with Sentai doing badly, I'm fully expecting it to be a crossover with Ryousoulger.

I'm willing to bet (a small amount) the movie is where we'll get an Another Decade.

Might be a good thing, I miss the Spring crossover special. They are what the Taisen films should've been.

That would be cool, but I'm thinking Another Decade could be in the arc where Sougo gets Grand Zi-O form. Idk why but I think Decade will play a huge role in him getting that form.

Also is it weird that Zi-O has yet to get the Den-O watch? Maybe the Imagins will make an appearance again.

I think Zi-O not getting a Den-O watch was the 'cost' of having Den-O in the movie. Sougo already had two forms for that movie, and there was already someone to defeat Another Den-O. I assume he'll have to get all of the watches (presumably before his final form) but it may happen in an underwhelming way rather than more tribute episodes.

I don't think it's really gonna happen but Schwartz should get a rider form and be the movie exclusive rider not entirely sure what To do about this new regulus thing whether it's a person or an organization or maybe its the new version of shocker

I'd guess the most likely possibilities are either something with Showa Riders (the logo of the original series is in the opening) or maybe something focusing on the "next era", featuring the next main Rider before his own tv debut in a bigger way than usual.

The spring movies (and so Sentai crossovers in general) are poisoned by Osamu Kaneda's stench. Chou Super Hero Taisen bombed even when they deliberately tried to hide Kaneda's name from the marketing. They won't touch them for a while.

I'm pretty sure Swartz will be getting a Rider or monster form in the show. It'd make no sense to make him a movie exclusive.

Yeah, as other people have said, the summer film is where I expect them to give us Another Ichigou. I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen any Showa Ridewatches yet, but with all the focus on celebrating the end of the Heisei era, it's semi-understandeable.

If I could pick literally anything, what I'd love it to do is, being a movie and all, give us Another Shin. After all, he was the first Rider of the Heisei era, and there's probably a narrative in there about Riders being paragons of justice vs brutal warriors, using any means to justify the ends.

Another Shin just looks like a normal Rider. Maybe it could be his son?

Showa Riders are sort of against the point - Zi-O is meant to be the ultimate Heisei Rider, so they're not really relevant to him. In practice, I wouldn't be surprised by a movie or video having him meet at least one Showa rider, then they can sell all the Showa watches as a Premium Bandai set

That's what's surprising me, more than anything. I know Showa riders are irrelevant to the plot, but that also applies to every other Rider that hasn't featured, yet that's not stopped them releasing a couple dozen ridewatches that don't look to be appearing in the show at all.

You know what would be really cool, though I realise they absolutely won't do it and will save it for the rider movie immediately after?

Another [First Reiwa Rider]

Thing with Shin, ZO, and J is that people oddly considers them phase 3 Showa these days it seems, but apparently during the behind the scenes video for Kamen Rider J, the term Neo Riders was used to group these three. Personally if Toei decides to draw the line at Kuuga grouping them as Neo Riders seems plausible considering they are technically not created during the Showa era.

Black RX was also technically aired in the Heisei era, right?

A quick google tells me it started in Showa, finished in Heisei, so technically yes? In the same was as Zi-O, really.

But because RX and Zi-O started broadcasting during Showa and Heisei respectively, RX is technically the last Showa rider and Zi-O is the last Heisei rider. Zi-O may air during the Reiwa era but that won't make him the first Reiwa rider. He already cut the grand opening ribbon during the end of the Heisei Era figuratively speaking thus making him a Heisei Rider.

Toshiki Kagyu will be returning for the role of Shoichi Tsukai, Kamen Rider Agito! :D

https://twitter.com/toei_rider_ZIO/s...86766500466688

We all know the first Reiwa Rider is Shinobi anyway, so does it really matter?
(Unless Ginga is from before 2022, at least.)

I literally just finished Agito this week and I adored the characters, so I'm super happy to see this return!! ... even if it's extremely weird seeing these characters 18 years older; especially Mana.

Very happy for this though. That G3 army makes a lot of sense now with Omuro now, seeing what happened with him in the ending. If there's not a scene with all the G3s at a barbecue I am going to be very disappointed

Wouldn't he be the 4th since Reiwa begins May 1st, 2019? Chronologically at least. Plus Rider shows begin somewhere between end of Summer and Fall so there is that. But now that you mention Ginga, if Ginga is set as a future rider that appears before the "official 1st Reiwa Rider" Ginga could be Reiwa Ichigo. :lolol

*Checks Toei site* Didn't Omuro have a stache at the end of the show? Why shave it off? And is it just me or did Shoichi steal Ren/Ultraman Nexus Juness Blue's wardrobe? :lolol

Who to bring back?
Hibiki: ?
Kabuto: ?
Den-O: ?
Kiva: Rumor about Otoya/Dark Kiva.
Drive: Rumor about Go. But what about Chase? Be nice if Proto-Zero took on a new face.

I feel that Chase will be back in the Brain spinoff. Mach will try again resurrecting Chase's core like last time, but instead of Heart, Brain will be the one to back. Then Brain will help Mach to get Chase back somehow.

Rina akiyama is back, the toku goddess 10 years ago. I guess that's why she wasnt in deno part with owner. She's playing her other role. Don't recognize agito as much as the other cast. The other alumni toku vet manage to keep same hair style after a decade plus. There hope for tendou, hibiki, wataru, and even popular drive to come back. I guess they planned it very early on to see which actor is free when. Decade and zio really gives off bad vibe in plot, but zio gets credit and kudos for cast and bts management staff to recruit nearly every rider to come back. Ora is relevant again. Goodbye white woz underwhelming twist.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bv7ywiEn67P/
When was police relevant again, so we'll taking pr route that blade and agito still exist and the government are still working. Decade, diend, hunjoOhma zio, what are they thinking? Takahiro Omuro is the discount g3. The real 2nd rider is too busy with mainstream career. I'm curious if w and fourze will be back literally again, I surprse ride watch and tributes are still relevant after 2ndq.

If Otoya's actor came back, I want them to do a thing where the unique trait for Another Kiva is that 2008 Kiva's power is of course taken... but 2035 Kiva is still around and kicking, so he comes in to try and save the day ala Quiz!

And then I would love them to somehow slot in 80s Ixa and Grease. Hell, toss in Decade!Dark Kiva too; go full on Gokaiger vs. Gavan here!

I'd love to see the Neo Fangires if possible.

Yeah, they could have Otoya and Masao as Kiva's representative, plus this is the arc where time travel would be really fun!

Hibiki: Asumu, Ibuki, Zanki, Todoroki, pretty much everyone except Hibiki himself. Hell maybe even Kiriya lol.

Kabuto: Gatack is the most likely, and maybe the Hell Bros. Hiro Mizushima wanted to return but it all depends on Toei.

Den-O: Imagins and Yuuto. Wouldn't be surprised if (no-longer) young Ryutaro appears as well, seeing as his actor makes a cameo in Ghost arc. I want New Den-O to appear too.

Kiva: Otoya, Otoya, Otoya, Otoya, Otoya and while we're at it, Masao. Maybe Nago/Ixa too.

Drive: Sadly with Ryoma Takeuchi becoming the next Takeru Satoh/Sota Fukushi, he's unlikely to appear. So we can only have Go and Chase. And maybe Kiriko.

Young Ryotaro was main-ish cast in Ghost, not a cameo.

He made a brief appearance in Ghost arc in Zi-O is what I meant.

Maybe they can flashpoint Hibiki. Maybe have Gatack become Another Kabuto.

They won't 'Flashpoint' anything. Stop saying that.

I've been thinking with Drive, seeing as they are changing up the tribute episodes by having the Legend Rider transform to fight their Another Rider self, if they can't get Ryoma back, then maybe he can be a suit only appearance and have his dialogue be voice clips, ala Gaim in Dr Pac-man.

Tendou made vague comments about treasuring kabuto. It's the typical was it kuuga or gao red said after people question he hated his time on set playing toku characters. Someone made reddit about it. I really want see Tendou kick ass, but gattack is most likely as well as kick hopper since they voiced, comeback promote toy and goonger.
Momotaros most likely. Idk how big takeru's role was. He feel like decade blade in finale of decade. Very out of character in glimpse in movie trailer.

Kiriko was such a wasted damsel in second half. Chase, like asumu is like retired freelance. I'm sure phillip is more popular than them, so that's why he's booked. Takeru got some free time. Idk if ruroni kenshin will go on after author pedo scandal.

Hibiki I am thinking Todoroki or Ibuki. Asemu's actor retired in real life to take over the family business I heard but then again that didn't stop past alumnis to make an appearance or two before so I hope he makes it if possible. Kiriya I would love to see despite me not liking the latter half of Hibiki because that silver and purple suit was the best thing to come out of it. Heck would be funny if they had a Hibiki and Den-O team-up with Yuuto and Kyosuke pulling a Kenji Ohba. :lolol

Den-O probably will be Imagin-focused. Though if they bring back Sato again kudos to Toei.

Kabuto I think Kagami or Yaguruma is more likely if Hiro can't make it.

Kiva I hope to see Masao be explored more because the Kouhei hype was real for Build and why not capitalize on it. That said if Koji Seto can get on board heck yes. :rock:

Drive I feel like Go being featured would be great. Worked for the Wizard eps I thought. :lolol

Here's what I'm thinking/hoping:

-Hibiki: While it'd be nice to see Ibuki, Todoroko, Zanki or Amaki again (and we know they'd be willing to return), I would totally be down with just Asumu and Kiriya. See what has changed about them in 14 years. Is Asumu a licensed doctor at this point? Has Kiriya become a full-fledged Oni? I think this would be exciting to explore. If they bring back more cast members, that'd be bonus. It's doubtful Hosokawa would return based on what's going on with him and TV Asahi, but it'd be a nice surprise and I would love to see Hibiki acting as sort of a mentor to Sougo and Geiz. A reunion between Hibiki and Asumu would be really emotional too.

-Kabuto: Mizushima is willing to return, capitalize on this Toei!! This would literally smash the ratings for Zi-O if he actually does make an appearance. Otherwise, Kabuto is one of those series that never had much in terms of returning cast members, even in cross-overs (aside from Kick-Hopper), so I'd take anyone. The most obvious choice would be Gattack, but Drake, Sasword, hell, even Kickhopper would be a-okay with me.

-Den-O: The Imagin and Ryotaro were covered (spectacularly, apparently) in Heisei Generations Forever, so I'm gonna say Yuuto and Deneb would be great for the in-show tribute. Heck, make this one a double tribute, literally - The film was a Den-O tribute in which Sougo got the Double RideWatch, so make this the opposite. I know Double and Kuuga are taken care of thanks to said film, but I still hope we get to see at least one returning actor from each respective show before Zi-O's time is up.

-Kiva: I'd love to see Koji Seto back as Kiva, but that's really up in the air. I'm happy with IXA/Nago or the Fangire Hunter girls. They'll get Kouhei back as Otoya for sure. This tribute can take advantage of the time travel shenanigans by exploring both 2008 and 1986. If they want to involve future time travel, Masao/Future Kiva and the Neo-Fangire threat could be a plot point worth elaborating on and would definitely make for good fan service.

-Drive: Takeuchi Ryoma would be another ratings-booster, and who knows? Toei might actually have a better chance here since they are on good terms with him. If not, Gou and Kiriko would be good choices. And if they are still doing story continuations at this point, it'd be nice to see Chase come back for good too. Also, based on Shirakura's tweet about the Drive Tribute, it could involve Surprise Future's plot. So Tomari Eiji or evil Krim Steinbelt are not out of the question either.

Either way, stoked to see what happens next!

How about...
- Another Hibiki
- Another Kabuto
- Another Den-O (brought back)
- Another Kiva
- Another Drive

Gatack would obviously go Another Kabuto anyway. Any other good candidates?

Chase as Another Drive would be perfect given his backstory

So I had written a post saying that we shouldn't write off Drive's actor coming back but rewatching 13.5, I dunno. I'm sure he'd like to come back. Guess we'll have to wait and see.