I like how people always seem to argue about a battle in another battle's thread :lol

Kuuga's Rider Kick in Rising Mighty form can take out an entire city block. That's a lot of Eijis. ;)

In fairness, he does have access to his own Hyper Kabuto.

In all fairness, it's not like there's a lot to discuss in "OOO curbstomps Super-1." :p

cause we all know who wins the left side alredy XD

I have to as long as Decade is still in this.

Which just mirror's his own movements.
And all he can do is just Maximum Hyper Typhoon/Cyclone.

So, I'll take this as a go to close and just move on to Kuuga VS Kiva :lol

Kuuga vs. Kiva would at least be a debatable fight compared to this one.

...I felt sorry for the guy with Super in his name...

Rider Of The Year Tournament- Quarter Finals 2
 

2nd Quarter Final!

Kamen Rider Kuuga

VS

Kamen Rider Kiva

Kuuga:

• Wears the Arcle, giving him access to 14 different forms. The belt also has fused with him, making it impossible to remove from him without killing him.
• His 4 standard forms are Mighty, Dragon, Pegasus and Titan.
• Mighty is a balanced fighter.
• Dragon is an azure form that allows Kuuga to be more agile and quicker, although his physical strength is lower than Mighty Form, Dragon Form enables Kuuga to and jump quickly in order to pursue the enemy. However, it also gives Kuuga less protection, yet being better suited for quick movements and more jump power. To make up for the lack of strength, he uses the Dragon Rod staff as his weapon, created by using any pole or stick-like object to manifest it. His finishing move in this form is Splash Dragon, an aerial thrust attack to the torso.
• Pegasus is a green shooting form where Kuuga's senses are heightened to extreme, superhuman levels, enabling him to see, hit and hear his opponents with deadly precision. It also allows Kuuga to detect the enemy's position, despite whatever ability they may have to avoid detection. The downside to this is that it can not be sustained for too long because of the enormous strain placed on the nervous system from over stimulation (only 50 seconds), and if Kuuga exceeds this limit, he shall be knocked back into Growing Form and become unable to transform for two hours. Kuuga uses the Pegasus Bowgun- a crossbow/gun hybrid weapon that can be created out of any gun-like object, commonly Ichijo's hand gun. His finishing move with the bow gun is "Blast Pegasus", an arrow shot from the bowgun after pulling the hammer back to the fullest length.
• Titan is a purple herculean form where his defense is greatly increased, allowing him to withstand most of his opponents' attacks long enough to get in close range, despite sacrificing speed. This form has much larger armor that is mainly silver with large purple trims. Although this armor provides superior protection, it still leaves parts of his body exposed, thus making him still suspectible to damage. He uses the Titan Sword that can be created out of pole or stick-like objects, normally the control handle of his bike. His finishing move is "Calamity Titan", a powerful sword thrust wherein Kuuga twists the blade as it is impaled.
• Each of those forms can be further enhanced into Rising forms, adding golden trim and enhancing their weapons.
• Can turn into Amazing Mighty Form, giving him a lot more power.
• Most Powerful Form: Ultimate.
• His most dangerous form, Ultimate Form combines all the powers of the other forms, Ultmate Kuuga has a much different design colored black with gold (and a little silver) trims all over his body, as well as having five horns on the headcrest, a black belt core and spiky-looking armor. Originally a risk is that the user would lose control and become like Daguba, a monster bent on killing everything in its way. However, due to Godai's gentle nature, he retains his will as he uses the new form against Daguba, retaining the red eye color of Mighty Form as opposed to the original black eyed color. When in battle, Ultimate Kuuga is able to see a monster's human form, every single attack from Kuuga Ultimate causes his opponent to bleed, despite the enemy's powerful armor.
  This form can also utilize the same powers as Daguba including Pyrokinesis.
• Is assisted by the Gouram, which can combine with his motorcycle, the BeatChaser 2000, which can become the BeatGouram. The Gouram can attack opponents too.

Kiva:

• Able to perform the Darkness Moon Break, a rider kick that shifts day to night*
• Can shift into Garulu Form, wielding the Garulu Saber, giving him the ability to fight in a feral state while increasing his speed
• Can shift into Basshaa Form, allowing him to wield the Bashaa Magnum and control water, with his finisher being able to follow the opponent, due to his increased accuracy and marksmanship.
• Can assume Dogga Form, allowing him to wield the Dogga Hammer and control electricity, while also giving him super strength.
• Can blend the three forms and become DoGaBaKi form, allowing him to access the 3 weapons.
• Can attach the Buroon Booster to his motorcycle, allowing it to increase speed.
• Can summon the Castle Doran and Shoodoran, dragons to aid him in battle.
• Most Powerful Form: Emperor Form
• As Emperor Form, he becomes exponentially stronger, able to use Tatsulot to use several “Fever” attacks and can assume Flight Style, a dragon like creature known as the “Emperor Bat.”
• Wields the Zanvat Sword, which currently has a power limiter on it. Removing it unleashes his Fangire nature and increases his strength.

This Battle Closes when One Rider Reaches 10 More votes than the other, or on Saturday!

...How many battles have happened today?

All right, this is the one I've been waiting for. I know Kiva has some (misguided) fans here, but I think I can make a compelling case for why he doesn't stand a chance here.

The thing that's great about this match-up is that these two are really similar. Kiva's base forms are a direct recreation of Kuuga's, right down to the color schemes: balanced red, fast blue, strong purple, gun-wielding green. The thing is, though, that there is very little that Kiva can do that Kuuga can't. And all of those things Kuuga can do better.

Garuru form gives Kiva a speed boost, but he doesn't because as crazy agile and maneuverable as Dragon form Kuuga, who can literally leap tall buildings in a single bound. Dogga Kiva is stronger, but he lacks the nearly invulnerable armor that Kuuga gets in Titan form. Bassha Kiva may not have Pegasus form's time limit, but Pegasus Kuuga is the ultimate sniper. His sense and reaction time are so highly tuned that he can take down enemies with superspeed at over a mile's distance. And that's Kuuga's normal forms. He can also increase all of those forms exponentially by going into their Rising versions.

That just leaves Kiva with Emperor form and, in terms of power, Kuuga can easily match that with Amazing Mighty or, if that's not enough (and it probably is), Ultimate. Whether or not you buy the idea that Ultimate Kuuga can destroy the world with a Rider Kick, you can't deny that the ways Kuuga's forms work (each tier being exponentially stronger than the prior) still makes Ultimate form the strongest final form in Rider history.

Ah, but Switchblade, you may be thinking, Kiva does have some tricks that Kuuga doesn't. Kiva has Castle Doran, a giant flying castle dragon. Kuuga's Rising Mighty Rider Kick can take out an entire city block (that's not information from a guidebook, that actually happens on camera in the show). One building isn't that big of a threat. And before you argue he can't reach it, he can use the Gouram to fly up to it or just leap in Dragon form.

Okay, but what about Kiva's crazy and nonsensical phoenix form? Yeah, that's just target practice for Rising Pegasus.

How about the Zanvat sword? Kuuga's strongest forms aren't armed. Well Go-Gadoru-Ba, the last Grongi on the show prior to N-Daguve-Zeba, not only had a sword but also was a total match for Kuuga's Rising forms in terms of power and skill. Yusuke smoked him with no trouble in Amazing Mighty form. There is nothing Kiva can bring to the table that Kuuga can't cope with.

tl;dr: Kuuga is a cool guy and Switchblade really over-thought this.

Lets go kiva. All he has to do is fly circles around kuuga and fireball spam.

Two words: Pegasus form.

Now this is a much more interesting battle and a partial rematch to boot. My vote is for Kiva.

Kuuga.
I don't even need to post my reasoning. Switch already did it for me :lol

You can argue that I'm totally a rampant Kuuga fanboy, but at least you can't accuse me of not thinking this through. :p

*Looks at OOO vs Super-1 Thread*
Oh, yeah. I know that feeling :lol

:lol Poor Super-1

Yeah, I'm siding with Kuuga here. He not only has the same form versatility as Kiva, but Rising forms only serve to make him stronger. The only way Kiva would win this is if he were fighting Onodera Yuseless.

I know Kuuga is the almighty one for riders, I do. But I want to say this would be a pretty even and fair fight. And Kiva fans aren't misguided. That show is awesome wether you believe so or not. That said I don't want to vote yet. I know who wins this round and it's not Kiva.

The Showa guys just aren't on the same level as the Heisei Riders. Modern Riders have so many forms, weapons, and CGI enhancements that it's hard for the dudes who just punch and kick to match that.

Plus there's that part where very few people have seen the Showa series.

I honestly do think this would be an awesome fight and I'd love to see it actually happen. I really do think they're evenly matched until Kuuga pulls out the godtier forms. At that point it becomes a total slaughter, but up until then it would be really cool - like when Decade fought Kiva using the Kuuga cards, but better because these are the real guys (and while I will never claim to actually like Wataru, he is way better than the Decade version of Kiva).

Man, somebody needs to get Koichi Sakamoto, Kenji Tomanaga, and Seiji Takaiwa together to actually film this.

Kiva. Kiva just has the upper hand here. It would by no means be a close fight. Kiva would probally lose five times out of ten. But my bet's on Fangface to pull one out this time and beat down Kuuga.

You just saved everyone voting for Kuuga the time to explain why he wins. Bravo good sir. :D

Kiva. Kuuga has ridiculous power? Worst case scenario, Wataru could make it so that Olimar became Kuuga instead of Yuusuke by traveling back in time with Castle Doran. The likely situation, however, is that Kiva manages to pull through after a long and arduous battle in which he gives Kuuga the fever- be it Dogga, Gararu, or Wake Up.

Oh, or Basshaa Fever.

I hate time travel. It skews results. Especially considering Kiva's form of time travel isn't even readily accessible during a fight like Den-O's or Kabuto's.

And couldn't Kuuga just use his Rising X forms should Kiva use his X Fever forms?
Kuuga literally one ups Kiva at every turn.

I think we all know that in most scenarios the only logical outcome of this fight is Kuuga. I LOVE kiva but even I must admit that if you ran this battle 100 times Kuuga would win a majority of the time. Of course there could be the right odd set of conditions allowing Kiva to win but its unlikely. The only other rider who could give Kuuga a loss is Agito.

Looking at the current poll results, that might not be entirely true...

This is why I hate polls.

While I love Kiva and the show I am voting Kuuga. As I explained this isn't a popularity contest of which rider we like more. It's a battle based on the statistics of the 2 fighters. In every way Kuuga would win. As much as I hate to admit it he would win.

Exactly... *sigh*

So I voted for Kuuga.

You had a good run Super-1!

This would be a really good fight, but like many have already said Kuuga just needs to break out the god-tier forms and Kiva has had it.

I voted Kuuga for reasons already mentioned in this thread.

This needs to happen so much. Especially with Koichi Sakamoto choreographing the battle.

I dunno, I think OOO could give Kuuga a run for his money personally. I'm looking forward to that match as much I was looking forward to this fight.

I consider myself a rampant fanboy of both Kuuga and Kiva. I do prefer Kiva, but I agree with the majority of comments. It would be a fairly matched fight, until Kuuga goes Rising form.

Poor Kiva. :(

There is one thing that could give Kuuga trouble in this fight- if Kiva removes Zanvat from the sword. It'd unleash his Fangire nature, and he could start draining Kuuga of energy, which could revert him to Growing form with prolonged use. Plus, the Zanvat Sword can destroy Sabbats. Imagine what he could do without the limiter.

What OOO said :lol

Yeah, I don't think even an unleashed Zanvat sword is going to hold a candle to Ultimate form. There's so much energy there that it would probably burn up Wataru's body before it significantly weakens Yusuke.

I think the thing is that people who haven't seen Kuuga assume that Ultimate form works like any other Rider's final form. It doesn't, though. Kuuga's Rising forms are on par with some other Riders' final forms and few other Riders can match Amazing Mighty in power. Ultimate form was designed to be a power so horrible that it could destroy the world if Yusuke couldn't control it. Kuuga is almost ludicrously overpowered. That's just the way the show made him (it's probably one of the main reasons why Decade's Kuuga was made the rookie; he'd have easily overpowered any of the other Riders if he was written like the original version).

Basically, if you think of it in DBZ terms, if an ordinary Rider's final form is like going Super Saiyan, Ultimate Kuuga is like SS3 (minus the stupid hair).

Does that make Rising Ultimate SS3 with the stupid hair? :lol

no rising ultimate is ss4 which is also stupid then again so was everything about gt xp