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henshinzero

07-21-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 853418)

"From now on, let Alchemy, the great science, rule the world!"
If anything, this is a quote from The Alchemists, a 2000 movie.
To be honest, I'm delighted. The plot description sounds like a mixture (an alchemical mixture!) of Blade and Fourze, and both of these shows are in my top series about riders. The main character is a high school student who is brave and energetic. The latter is very important after Ace, who looks like he is about to yawn. This is also written by Hasegawa, who worked on Gridman and understands the school setting. I really hope that, unlike Zi-O, Gotchard will be left at school for the whole show. Plus, a clear separation of good and evil. Maps create monsters from bad influences (hello Drive!), but a good person has the ability to become a rider. Seriously, for now, it looks like Toei decided to take a break from Geats' ambiguity and give viewers a simple gripping story within the walls of a school. Perhaps we will even get an analogue of the Rider Club, only where almost everyone will be riders.
A little bit of speculation. The rumors of a card game don't fit well with the plot, so I'm guessing four possibilities:
1) This is not true.
2) Game cards existed from the beginning and only after the incident turned out to be associated with monsters.
3) Gotchard will be a rider before the show and during this time the card game will have time to appear.
4) The show will have a card game arc, presumably in its second or third ten episodes.
Decade doesn't seem like the right rider to appear in this story. Honestly, I can easily name five more suitable ones. However, this largely depends on the availability of actors, so there is no need to choose.
Luxury motorcycle. I love his gold and his steampunk vibe. Unfortunately, the school setting is unlikely to provide many opportunities to ride it.
In any case, I'm looking forward to this show. I hope it doesn't disappoint me.

I never heard of the Alchemists movie btw.

Mesnick

07-21-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 853419)

Wait if this series will be themed on alchemy mixed with TCG, will the protagonist be like Yugi Muto, Bashin Dan or Edward Elric?

Like Roger Bacon ;) But in general, I think he will look like an ordinary Japanese schoolboy, most likely something between Gentaro and Sougo.

Mesnick

07-21-2023 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 853421)

I never heard of the Alchemists movie btw.

Not surprising. This is a Russian comedy about how an alchemist leaves for a convention, and his apprentice and his servants decide to make money by helping people. They are detained for fraud, but everyone who contacted them is satisfied with the result and therefore they are released. And when the alchemist returns and finds out everything, he declares that his student has done more for alchemy than he did with all his secret research and they decide to continue together.

Mesnick

07-21-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PortalTron (Post 853420)

Also, I really wonder what this means for the rumor that Decade might show up in some capacity. I really doubt the traditional Rider system could be used since the premise outright states that these cards are essentially sealed artificial beings. It doesn't sound like Legend Cards could necessarily be used in the main show (maybe as a side collectible like Rider Progrise Keys).

I think with 101 cards, Gotchard can make 39 look like previous riders. And if rider-like cards are being used by a Decade-like rider played by an actor who looks like Masahiro Inoue, that's the reason for the rumors. On the other hand - get the name of the tertiary, not even knowing who plays the main one? This is either a lie or a planned leak to test the reaction of the fans and become more like Ultraman. More precisely, to introduce the Kamen Riders of the Outsiders into the main shows, because in the special format they move at a snail's pace.

Frontier

07-21-2023 11:26 AM

I'm guessing the 2nd Rider is going to be a rival card collector.

Sh Ranger

07-21-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 853401)

I worry about the concept where the riders take place in high school.

Oh, not a fan of the genre?

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Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 853417)

I was afraid of that. He'll destroy it by abandoning it making it nothing.

I will never trust him in his hands for KR ever!

You're probably thinking of Saber's head writer, Fukuda Takurou. And in his defense, he only "abandoned" it cause producer Takahashi told him to focus on Trio of Deep Sin. So blame Takahashi instead.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 853418)

The latter is very important after Ace, who looks like he is about to yawn.

Yeah, that's a fair criticism. I think it took Kan Hideyoshi a few episodes to figure out that Ace should be a little more expressive than simply looking away from others nonchalantly.

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Originally Posted by PortalTron (Post 853420)

This would mean a whopping 50 forms for Gotchard.

Not exactly what I would call whopping. Build had about 935 forms. Now that was whopping.

Congrats on your 200th post anyway.

Mesnick

07-21-2023 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Frontier (Post 853425)

I'm guessing the 2nd Rider is going to be a rival card collector.

And maybe a Chinese girl?

Sh Ranger

07-21-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 853427)

And maybe a Chinese girl?

Ling Xiaoyu reference?

Mmicb0b

07-21-2023 12:17 PM

I wouldn't doubt there'd be a female rider since we've had one in every rider show since Zero One(I mean Zi-O had one for 2 episodes)but they're never going to make one the secondary rider(TBF I Feel like Revice put more emphasis on Sakura than Daiji aside from the arc where he joins Akashi)

Mesnick

07-21-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger (Post 853428)

Ling Xiaoyu reference?

No, gender-swap of Cardcaptor Sakura characters:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...LHOaw&usqp=CAU

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