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Who from Kabuto, Den-O and Drive would you picture coming into Zi-O?

And Another Kabuto, Den-O and Drive candidates?

All three Another Riders are Tsukasa

Kagami/Gatack as Another Kabuto!

I know JP rumours are circulating regarding Yaguruma and Kageyama for Kabuto at least...and based on him being in Brain Saga, I'd guess Go for Drive.

Seeing as Another Hibiki and Another Kiva were people from Sougo's past, I'd guess that Another Kabuto, at least, probably will be as well.

For Den-O...its tribute was in the film, with W and Kuuga, so I wouldn't be surprised if we don't get a second one, seeing as Another Den-O is old news. Maybe the Den-O Ridewatch will be part of Another Decade's arc, like Decade's was for Another Ghost.

I could see Den-O being part of the actual Grand Zi-O debut episodes since Another Den-O was already defeated in the movie. And I'd guess any Decade arc, whether in the show or movie, is coming after Grand Zi-O, since they already have the Watch so they don't need to fit it before that. It could be part of the Grand Zi-O debut too though if it doesn't debut against Oma Zi-O.

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(Gotten from a Discord)

Actually, I think Drive and Kabuto might be squished into one.

If there is no delay, then next month presumably around the 23rd of June will be when Grand Zi-O debuts.
From the Episode synopsis, it seems that episode 37 is a plot episode, with no Legend Rider tied to it.

So the next set of episodes would presumably go as such

May 12th - Kiva Part 1
May 19th - Kiva Part 2
May 26th - Zi-O Plot
June 2nd - ???
June 9th - ???
June 16th - ???
June 23rd -???


We know Grand debuts in June, the scans have already teased as much. Again stolen from a Discord but, if I had to guess. Drive and Kabuto are squished into one for the June 2nd - 9th Episodes, and Decade and Den-O are squished into one for June 16th - 23rd. Leading into Grand when Sougo gets the last Ridewatch, which Should be Den-O's.

I say Decade and Den-O are squished into one, because we've already had another Den-O and we haven't had an Another Decade yet. So having an Another Rider that NEEDS the powers of all 20 Ridewatches combined works perfectly with Grand Zi-O, and he already has the Decade Ridewatch so the Den-O one is acquired instead

I've been thinking about this recently, If they pull a Gokaiger and give the powers back to the other Riders, I wonder how the Riders affected by time manipulation (Most of the Phase 2 Riders minus Drive, some Phase 1) will get their powers back.

Honestly, I could see the den-o ridewatch in that zi-o plot episode. It sounds like a clip show-esque dealio, which is the perfect opportunity to use a movie suit

I might also be very very wrong, and instead of a Zi-O episode it's the start of the Drive/Kabuto arc. We might not even get Another Decade so honestly, at this point it's just a waiting game

They still will need monsters after Grand Zi-O's debut, which is why I could see Another Decade being kept until after that, since they don't need to force it before that due to the Watch already being with Sogo. And an Another Decade is certainly happening at this point considering how every other Heisei Rider is getting an Another counterpart. Even Ryuki got one, and it didn't need one at all after Ryuga.

I doubted Another Decade but now we genuinely are getting tributes for everything, it seems more likely. Probably one of; the villain Sougo needs Grand to defeat, the final boss somehow (most likely one of the Time Jackers in that case), or perhaps an epilogue enemy.

I thought they were collecting the rest of the Ridewatches so they could match Oma-Zio's level and defeat him.

Anyone thought of Zi-O would end? Like Gokaiger maybe giving back all the Rangers’ powers. Maybe Sougo and the others will do the same... maybe keep some from those who feel don’t need them anymore - like the Blade riders.

I have a feeling the finale and the episodes leading up to it are gonna involve past riders' actors in a way similar to Decade's last stretch. As it's been mentioned here before; the customary farewell flowers have not been seen to be given to the actors of Build, Blade, Agito and a couple others -- I could very much see Sougo giving the riders their powers back after attaining Grand and then at least some of them joining him to directly fight the bigger threat.

Though I admit that last part specifically is just a super big hope dream scenario of mine. A crack team of Sento, Kazumi, Geiz and Shouichi taking on Oma Zi-O and/or Schwartz would be fucking incredible.

A forced taisen avengers crossover. People prefer multiverse of decade more and that's not much. Guests don't get flowers, right? I don't remember sentai rider alumni coming back in past years as themselves or other roles receiving them if they're not recurring in a sense of supporting cast. Gingaman rider must be connected ronschwartz. Forever movie is out. It's like a reimaging or zio plus some gaia movie and tiga movie vibe from what I heard. The raw and chinese subs are out. Very fast like anime jh dramax alike.
Kiva queen is kamen rider G heroine? 40

I wonder how they would get the time manipulated Riders their powers back.

Sento sulks and says he's Katsuragi for a good 20 minutes until Geiz just throws the Ridewatch at him and he turns into Build. End episode

Yeah I'd watch that

Though I agree with what you said earlier. The intro for the show has always teased that Sougo would team up with the previous 19 Riders to take down Oma, wouldn't surprise me if we got a few returning actors in there, esp the most recent ones.

Would suck majorly for Blade if that were the case, cause that would mean he'd be a Joker again. Guess it fits into the whole tragedy theme of Kamen Rider, as in order to save time and space, he'd have to become a monster again.

EDIT: Oh god I just realized. If Kenzaki was the only Undead left if he gets his powers back, he'd win the Battle Fight.

Sento actually is completely confirmed to have his memories back permanently at the end of Heisei Generation Forever. He talks with Sogo in the standard Zi-O world in the final scene and clearly still remembers everything.

Most of the past Riders in Zi-O actually got flowers after their two episodes, like Ex-Aid's actors, but a few didn't.

I've now actually found a picture of Agito with flowers though (it was only on the official twitter, not official website), so that one is out or at least unconfirmed.

I hope we will have more Future Riders after Ginga for summer movie....

I think it will be really interesting if we have a lot of Miridewatches in summer movie.......

Hmmm...imagine if the villain are using a lot of Miridewatches and this similar to Eternal using 26 Gaia Memories......

If Heisei Generation Forever are focused to previous Heisei Riders, maybe Zi-O Summer Movie will be focused to the new Future Riders and their related Miridewatches.....

Edit: I find video about DX Woz Ginga Miridewatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZZXfwTJd_w

Be nice if if were to happen. The four Blade riders will fight together again after.

Uh I'm fairly certain this Sento is different from Zi-O Sento, it's been awhile but the movie isn't considered Canon somehow and the Sento we see in Forever is the one from New World.

Yeah it's a fucking confusing mess blame Shirakura and the writers, like I've been trying to forget how awfully they did the Build tribute. It makes no sense, somehow Sougo traveled to the Skywall world, met Sento and Banjou, went back to his timeline, somehow met the same Sento and Banjou without their memories, went back in time to a world seemingly without the Skywall in 2017 where Banjou and Sento are (Note Banjou refers to Sougo as "That dude from the other day" this is still the same team Build we've seen), defeated Another Build and erased Build from the timeline.

I don't get why they decided that was a good idea, Build literally ends with them on a new world. Just say that the year they got merged into was 2017, that way they can still be around in 2017 and have Another Build be created in that year. But whatever man, atleast they stepped up their game with recent crossovers

Will we get a new Zi-O rider in a Zi-O movie? What would be a good clock for its motif?

I feel we will; I've been surprised at how we haven't gotten even a fourth rider in Zi-O yet unless you count Oma.

Be nice to complete the rainbow.

Zi-O: Black, white & pink/magenta eyes
Geiz: Red & yellow eyes
Woz: Green & blue eyes

Fourth (movie) rider: orange/purple & purple/orange eyes

Nope. Sogo references his meeting with Banjo from Zi-O's first episode ("I'm the future guy!") and he soon remembers it. The Sento in Zi-O is the same Sento from New World. The issue of the dates is the only confusing part now, but if you assume that the New World started in 2017 (when Sento wakes up in the field in the tv finale) everything works out fine.


Misora, Grease and Rogue seemingly recover their memories in this movie too, but in their case it's shown to be incomplete (they don't remember anything about their current lives, only the old world) and constantly fading out, due to being sustained by the Imagin's power, which works out and allows the New World movie to fit after their appearance here since they didn't really recover their memories for real.


Shirakura said the Sogo in the movie was just created by imagination and not the real one, but he was plain wrong there in spite of being the main producer. The movie watches making it to the show should make that very clear. And on top of that, if you watch the movie everything is also pretty clear.


There is a scene where after Sogo disappears from the Rider-less world he just reappears back in the tv show timeline and talks with Sento there. Then they manage to go back to the Rider-less timeline with the W Watch. So, the movie makes it clear that it's all the same Sogo.


Remember, although the producer is the "top" person, he isn't actually writing the show's or movie's scripts. Right after the quote where Shirakura talked about movie Sogo supposedly being different from the tv one, he was apparently surprised when someone pointed out how the movie watches made it to the tv show.

Well shit I stand corrected, writing that huge ass vent piece of Build did make me realise if you assume New World takes them back to 2017 then it works perfectly. I will admit I jumped the gun with the assumptions on the movie. Thanks for the info!

The Xmas movie was a letdown. Deno ryotaro was just urataros. I was expecting more of a passing line. I find last year with more guests better. I hope the summer movie tops it. It could be an alternate ending with epilogue. I swear during the opening scene for xmas movie i thought it was an alternate e1 with montage of how the tv series could have been. It solid if it was that case.

Showa riders and secondary riders as well as supporting riders are unimpressed and unimportant. We just skip that obtaining main rider watch doesn't remove all the kamen rider history establish for like blade and agito sake.

Will KR Shinobi be remade in year 2022 of the Reiwa era? Be nice to expand ninja pop culture Agito style.

Shinobi - mystic ninja

Other riders:
Cyberpunk ninja
Steampunk ninja
Biopunk ninja
Ancient ninja
Dark evil ninja

Whoever the Rider is in 2022, I want some sort of one-off episode or special where they crossover with Shinobi for fun.

Honestly if they give me an expanded Shinobi in 2022 with the reasoning for stuff changing being "Well in that timeline Geiz Revive won, so now that neither Geiz or Sougo had to die this is the true timeline!"

Just keep my boy Kinji as Shinobi and we'll be all right.

Can't wait till there is a Heisei Generations FOREVER discussion thread. Really liked the film, but there is a lot to discuss.

But to keep things short, the Den-O scene was lovely.

So very true. I thought the exact same thing. I also realized that I really want some more Den-O.

Everyone could do with more Den-O in their lives

You guys really know how to hype me for a movie. Although the last one I watched was Climax Deka, so compared to that, anything would be good.

What does Woz's name mean?

One explanation I've heard is that it could be a reference to Stephen Gary "Woz" Wozniak, because he was the co-founder of Apple and KR Woz's primary motif is an Apple Smartwatch.

Another explanation came from a user here who said it could be a corruption of the word "Was".

Honestly it could mean anything considering the amount of depth Toei goes to for puns.