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Kiva 20: The part where Otoya conned Jiro and the coffee shop owner was hilarious.

Otoya referred to Kivat as the son of Kivat II? Interesting...


And...Nago is actually...capable of working with Wateru? Without resorting to doing something stupid? Amazing!

I was gonna give Kiva another go but everything I am reading in this thread is just so off putting.

Yeah, judging from what you said before on how you view shows, I'm pretty sure you won't like it.

I'm starting to agree...gonna have to find a new Rider show after Kuuga though somehow!

It is the most logical answer :lol

Kuuga 21: Since this was an MCS rip and most of the story elements were in Grongi I have no real clue what happened in this episode. Number Three started operating again, got told off but then was sent to fight Kuuga anyway..? Some metrosexual appeared flipping a coin and I think I was supposed to be shocked but I dunno who that guy is. And...yeah.

Don't let the haters dissuade you from Kiva. It's really a good show. Complaints about Wataru are greatly exaggerated since he's supposed to evolve from the shut in he begins the series as. The rider designs are great, the split time periods setting is really pretty innovative, and the show has a nice payoff every time the past and future meet.

Why? Kiva is an excellent show. It has some flaws in it (which every KR series has), but it is a great show with great designs, music, and characters.

I guess I'm inclined to agree.
I just personally found Kiva to be a bore once Otoya calmed down. Wataru really couldn't hold a show. I know his character arc was to grow from being the cowardly shut in, but that doesn't change that his character, as a whole, was just dull to watch.

Episode 22 of Kuuga was pretty bad. I mean yay Green Kuuga was used again, the best form! But pretty much nothing about the cliffhanger at the end of episode 21 had any purpose.

And was any of the stuff with the police really necessary in this episode if you're gonna depict them all with being about as good with a gun as I am? I know the police have always struggled in this series but they've given a proper story reason for it and they are learning and getting better. This episode just depicted them all as incompetent and useless.

Episode 23 at least provided an (extremely limited) sense of Godai facing up to how much he sucks, with the amount of people dying under his watch so far being in the thousands. But I have to ask, where the hell are the military?

This ache stuff is kinda rubbish as well, since when has he had aches outside of this episode? And are we really supposed to care about anything in relation to Godai any more after he died and came back to life like a quarter into his series?

The fighting was kinda fun tho since the enemies got weapons this time.