Personally, I think OOO is a good show, but it tends to be overrated. It has some great characters and a good setting, but the villains are mostly shit.

I would definitely say it's better than Wizard, though. Wizard I'd rank about on par with Fourze - they're both decent shows, but with some serious flaws. With Fourze it was it's horrible pacing and total lack of villain motivation until the last three episodes. With Wizard it's the equally horrible pacing and total waste of a supporting cast. That said, I think Haruto is one of the best Riders of the Heisei era and easily the best since Shotaro. It's just a pity that he's stuck in a show that would rather focus on wacky comedy hijinks when he clearly belongs in a much more serious and darker show.

So watchin W A to Z

Prdtgy good so far ill probably finish W later tonight, but holy crap did not see Shrouds backstory comin :lol

I wouldn't call OOO overrated. It's not the precious early Heisei series, but I found it more enjoyable than a lot of other KR series.

I think the forms in Wizard rock, and his henshin device is down right awesome. I still think W and Blade have the best devices, but Wizard's is definitely up there. Sure, Wizard is slow moving, but I think that is more because I am watching the episodes as they are compared to marathoning them in a few days like I did with W-Fourze.

Now Shunpei, Rinko, and Koyomi need to just drop dead. Shunpei is one of the worst characters in the entire Kamen Rider series, definitely the worst since the boys in Hibiki. Rinko only occasionally seems to do police work. Koyomi, just stands in the background and maybe has one sentence and that is it. Sadly though, the supporting casts in these shows are getting worse each year.

The Phantoms, on the other hand, are awesome. However, that might attribute to the fact that they are based off mythical beasts, and I am huge into mythology. I thought Phoenix was pretty damn badass, I love Gremlin, and Medusa has a lot of potential. I definitely feel she is going to become the main villain in the last few episodes of the series.

Plot has been fine for me. It isn't amazing, but it is no where near bad. Comparitively, the plots in W, Blade, and Fourze were better, but it is superior to everything that came between Hibiki through Decade except Kiva and OOO.

My biggest issue is that lately, the fights just don't seem as epic. There seems to be a lack of energy and choreography in them.

And come on, the reason they haven't killed Haruto is plot convenience. In the real world, all of the riders (and rangers) would have been killed halfway through the story. That is why I would love to see Toei do something new and surprise everyone by killing off their main heroes at the end of one series and have it continue into the next year with a new cast trying to take back the world. It will never happen, but I wish it would.

on episode 47 of W (so sad to finish this because it as became my favorite next to OOO [granted its the second ive seen :lol])

but, at the end of 46, did anyone (for those that have seen G Gundam) get reminded of Ulube givin Rain to the Dark Gundam with that final scene? :lol

So I finished W

I admit right now, I got teary eyed at Phillip and Shotarou. That was a better endin than OOO, and the "special" finale episode was great, now to watch W and OOO movie war core tomorrow :lol

Just finished watching Wizard Hyper Battle. Weird, but funny :lol

I absolutely love the villains of OOO. I love everyone in OOO.

For the love of all that is holy, skip the OOO portion.

I'd say exactly half the villains in OOO are shit, to the point where I feel as though the shows was intended to follow, well, the interesting ones, and then there was Mezool and Gamel as, I guess just to be there.

They're nowhere bad as idiot "I'm going to smile and cross my arms and that will make me a good villain" Medusa or "Can you tell I've never had an acting gig before this well let me laugh obnoxiously and open my mouth EVEN WIDER" Phoenix. Though I think anytime Kamen Rider gives monsters that are supposed to be monsters human forms it's just dumb, because they look like shitty fanart characters where everyone's skinny and dresses all new-age. Like seriously, why is the tough Gamel in the body of a highschooler? He should be a big, tough brawny guy or, if you want to play on his intelligence, a child. Not jut some punk kid. Ditto Uva who's basically the exact same kind of person in human form, but also a tough monster in his real form. The only one who worked this was Catface, but he was a shithead.

This is what keeps me goign back to Wizard, because I seriously need to understand this. Hairytoes, so far, is a void of a character. He is a sustained vacuum where a character should be. He's beyond bland, has the most paltry of backstories, and his admirable "I want to help people" mentality only goes so far in filling that void. You cna't just be a hero, you have to have some kind of personality. It doesn't need to be silly or overt, just... something besides smile and wave. Even in-suit he's incredibly generic flashy goodguy.

As a comparrison, back when I was watching Black (which I still need to finish) he was your typical heroic guy. He was a lot like Haruto in that teh defining aspect of his character was his heroism. But Black had more than that. He was driven, passionate, hot-blooded. You could tell just by watching him he poured his heart into everything he did. He had not a bit of ego, not a bit of flare. He was a hero and worked himself to the bone to stay one. Haruto is far more of a "I'm a hero but I'm still a cool guy who's a bit silly look at me eat a doughnut!" Which, BTW, I have nothing against the doughnut thing. In fact I wish it wasn't so downplayed. Even being a doughnut-obsessed weirdo is better than what he is now.

Yay!

Yeah, that final Xtreme bit is really tug-at-your-heart-strings-ville.

Yes.

It is just not-making-sense-at-all-ville. The W portion is awesome, though.