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Talisman

02-01-2020 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SengalBoy (Post 754639)

Is SHF Kiva-la good? I'm aiming to get Kiva and Decade someday, and having Kiva-la alongside them would look good.

Very.

Zolda

02-01-2020 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka (Post 753864)

With how little I’ve actually heard about the joints breaking, I’m surprised at how strong these opinions are. And in response to Taste-Toys’s having “visible” cracks, I am going to have to disagree with you there. It is the lighting that is shining on the new angular joint that makes it look that way. If you have the SS OOO, you would know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka (Post 753864)

- [...]maybe they’re the next step in getting figures that we can pose more lifelike.
- If Bandai were to just keep making things the way they are, and not innovating, we would not have gotten the SS line, with better proportions, better screen accuracy, better articulations, and overall a better albeit pricey figure. Toys would stagnate and other companies would just start to copy them and they wouldn’t stand out as the most advanced, detailed, and articulate figure out on the market.

I agree with you.
I'm all for those things.
I'm all for progression.
I'm all for improvement.
I'm all for innovation.
Several things for Bandai (and other companies) to consider:
Please, please, please...
Be aware of
point of diminishing return.
Be aware of
what benefit that you will get
vs
the cost that you will have to pay.
Be aware of
total structural collapse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka (Post 753864)

- But considering how others have posted about other elbow/hip joints breaking, or wrist joints snapping, I don’t think it’s as big of an issue as some are making it to be.
- Increased fragility has been going on since back in the days when figures have 5 points of articulation. As toys evolve, and we add more moving parts for the sake of articulation, of course things would be more fragile.
- And if you honestly cannot fathom ever having a figure with “increased fragility”, I hear Sofubis are extremely sturdy and affordable.

Duuude! :D
Of course I know about all those points! :)
Those are NOT my points.

Of course a sofubi RHS Kamen Rider figure
will DEFINITELY outlive all of today's 1/12 action figures. :D

Of course your vintage 5 point Kenner Star Wars action figures
are WAAAY less fragile, thus more reliable,
compared to the majority of today's flagship 1/12 action figures.
Perhaps it will even outlive my car. :D

And of course I know that
ANY additional articulation
WILL increase fragility. :)

I have NEVER stated nor implied
that ANY increase of fragility is BAD.
What I have stated or implied is:
- What I warned Bandai of is not mere fragility,
but the nastiest type of fragility,
that, if left without redundancy,
exposes the system to TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE,
because
- There is a LIMIT, defined by material strength,
of how much articulation you can cram into a tiny space
before the material fails completely.
So, by taking this reasoning to its logical conclusion,
we can be certain that
- There is a point,
an acceptable point,
a point of diminishing return
of added articulation vs increased fragility.
So far, for SHF Kamen Rider series,
that point is the old elbow joint system.
You go past that limit,
and the increase in fragility,
thus the decrease of product reliability that you get
will far outweigh the benefit of the added articulation.
And the last point,
- The fragility issue
is about the new SHF SS elbow and knee joint systems,
especially the new elbow joint system,
compared to the old SHF elbow joint system,
especially on the SHF Kamen Rider lines.
NO MORE, NO LESS.

Please notice the scope of the issue:
- Figure series: SHF and SHF SS
- Character series: Kamen Rider
- Problematic areas: Elbow and knee joint system,
especially elbow one
- Benchmark: the old SHF Kamen Rider elbow & knee joint systems

So, please focus the discussion on those things,
and please refute my points without straying from
what I'm talking about.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamSword (Post 753849)

Even saying "Oh you've just been lucky, they WILL break" (paraphrased).

Could you please provide the link(s) to my posts
where I stated or at least implied the idea of
"Oh you've just been lucky, they WILL break"?
I have re-read my previous posts
and none of them stated nor implied that idea.

TheRaizin

02-01-2020 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zolda (Post 754657)

Thanks for reminding me. :)
Yes, you are correct. :thumb:
The "cracks" are reflection of light on the angled edge.
I stand corrected.

Yet one crucial question remains:
"Why is the thinnest wall on that particular component,
the component that is connected to the arm peg,
so pathetically thin
so much as even thinner than the metal axis?" :confused:
I will not be surprised if crack eventually starts forming along that wall.

I agree with you.
I'm all for those things.
I'm all for progression.
I'm all for improvement.
I'm all for innovation.
Several things for Bandai (and other companies) to consider:
Please, please, please...
Be aware of
point of diminishing return.
Be aware of
what benefit that you will get
vs
the cost that you will have to pay.
Be aware of
total structural collapse.

Duuude! :D
Of course I know about all those points! :)
Those are NOT my points.

Of course a sofubi RHS Kamen Rider figure
will DEFINITELY outlive all of today's 1/12 action figures. :D

Of course your vintage 5 point Kenner Star Wars action figures
are WAAAY less fragile, thus more reliable,
compared to the majority of today's flagship 1/12 action figures.
Perhaps it will even outlive my car. :D

And of course I know that
ANY additional articulation
WILL increase fragility. :)

I have NEVER stated nor implied
that ANY increase of fragility is BAD.
What I have stated or implied is:
- What I warned Bandai of is not mere fragility,
but the nastiest type of fragility,
that, if left without redundancy,
exposes the system to TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE,
because
- There is a LIMIT, defined by material strength,
of how much articulation you can cram into a tiny space
before the material fails completely.
So, by taking this reasoning to its logical conclusion,
we can be certain that
- There is a point,
an acceptable point,
a point of diminishing return
of added articulation vs increased fragility.
So far, for SHF Kamen Rider series,
that point is the old elbow joint system.
You go past that limit,
and the increase in fragility,
thus the decrease of product reliability that you get
will far outweigh the benefit of the added articulation.
And the last point,
- The fragility issue
is about the new SHF SS elbow and knee joint systems,
especially the new elbow joint system,
compared to the old SHF elbow joint system,
especially on the SHF Kamen Rider lines.
NO MORE, NO LESS.

Please notice the scope of the issue:
- Figure series: SHF and SHF SS
- Character series: Kamen Rider
- Problematic areas: Elbow and knee joint system,
especially elbow one
- Benchmark: the old SHF Kamen Rider elbow & knee joint systems

So, please focus the discussion on those things,
and please refute my points without straying from
what I'm talking about.

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Could you please provide the link(s) to my posts
where I stated or at least implied the idea of
"Oh you've just been lucky, they WILL break"?
I have re-read my previous posts
and none of them stated nor implied that idea.

This again. Can we all just say a certain batch of SS OOO just had weird QC issues that caused the joint to crack? I've already found out that the SS OOO joint is the same "fighting body" joint as the Street Fighter SHFs and I haven't seen any of those guys break and they've been out WAY longer than SS OOO.

Also, that is one bizarre way to write a paragraph.

Sentai King

02-01-2020 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 754663)

It not just a batch it a wide spread issue. People in japan and here had broken joint OOO SS is not even a year old it a very big deal. Also with OOO Latora form up for preorder it use the same joint = same issue nothing has change.

Btw where have you seen the street fighter shf use the same joints? OOO is the only one who has these joints for the gimmick.

Kurona

02-01-2020 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentai King (Post 754669)

Wait, the gimmick? I thought we were talking about elbows here; not the leg/chest and chest/head connections.

Either way, none of what you said contradicts it being a bad batch.

KamenRiderOOO

02-01-2020 09:45 PM

As someone who owns more than one OOO and had neither’s elbows snap, I can say with all certainty...it’s a bad batch, or they’re not being handled carefully enough.

Zolda

02-01-2020 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 754663)

Of course I have already been aware
of the Fighting Body elbow joint system. :)
I never mentioned them in my posts
because they are NOT the same system on SHF SS OOO.
If I compare them to the SHF SS OOO joint
then my comparison would be apple-to-orange, different context comparison.

Here's the link of the figures with Fighting Body joint system.
https://tamashii.jp/special/fighting_body/

On the surface,
they look identical to the SHF SS OOO elbow joint system.
If you see deeper,
you'll see TWO glaring differences.
And ONE inconsistency
in series using the Fighting Body elbow joint system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 754663)

Also, that is one bizarre way to write a paragraph.

Well, I just make my posts easier to read on computer screen,
since several people here complained
that my posts were "longwinding", "rant", etc. :D

Of course, it IS bizarre
if you write a paragraph this way
on your university thesis. :lolol

KamenRiderOOO

02-01-2020 09:53 PM

Fighting body joints are two separate pieces, connected via peg and peg hole.

OOO’s joints are two separate pieces, connected via pin

SengalBoy

02-02-2020 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 754648)

Very.

Nice. And she has pearl white finish too! I'm a sucker for pearl whites. Definitely picking her up someday, I'm trying to score Kiva first.

TheRaizin

02-02-2020 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zolda (Post 754678)

Alright, yeah. We get it. It breaks, yes. Your OOO figure is now broken. Now, how about we stop bickering to each other about it? No doubt that Bandai is gonna push this type of joint into later SS figures like Den-O and OOO unless we actually let them know or they realize it themselves.

Now, how about we come together and try to find a solution for this in the waking moment that ur Hino Eiji had his elbow dislodge into orbit.

Waka	02-02-2020 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zolda (Post 754657)

Thanks for reminding me. :)

Please notice the scope of the issue:
- Figure series: SHF and SHF SS
- Character series: Kamen Rider
- Problematic areas: Elbow and knee joint system,
especially elbow one
- Benchmark: the old SHF Kamen Rider elbow & knee joint systems

So, please focus the discussion on those things,
and please refute my points without straying from
what I'm talking about.

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Could you please provide the link(s) to my posts
where I stated or at least implied the idea of
"Oh you've just been lucky, they WILL break"?
I have re-read my previous posts
and none of them stated nor implied that idea.

Alright, it seems like you just enjoy this fear mongering/attention or something. The scope of the issue is not just limited to Kamen Rider. you're saying that because these "new joints" are more complex, they are more prone to breakage. But you acknowledge that the "Fighting Body" Figuarts line also has complex elbows joints similar to the SHF SS OOO's line. While they're not the exact same system, you say in your posts, HERE that adding complexity makes the joints weaker.

Your constant mention of the WORST POSSIBLE SITUATION THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN TO SHF SS KAMEN RIDER OOO is getting tiresome. the worst possible situation that could ever happen to ANY figure... is it breaking, or being lost. and in case you need references to what I'm talking about, here are a few I've quoted:

Quote:

...the most extreme one, the nasty one, the catastrophic failure, the systemic collapse: LIMB DISMEMBERMENT.

Quote:

" it will cause the same total structural failure, that is, mutilated arms."

Quote:

Using this reasoning, THE ultimate rational question to ask is:
"What is the WORST CASE SCENARIO (aka WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN) when the material DO reach its strength limit?"

The answer is clear:
TOTAL STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE.

Quote:

What I have stated or implied:
This breakage issue is probabilistic issue.

While I appreciate you contributing to the forums and having conversations, I don't think there is anything of substance with our interactions other than for you to continue to preach impending doom about this line because of some perceived engineering fault. If you don't like them because you view them as structurally weak, that's fine and you can let it be known, as this IS a discussion thread. Just stop with this "TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE" fear mongering.

Zolda

02-02-2020 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 754711)

Alright, yeah. We get it.
It breaks, yes. Your OOO figure is now broken.
Now, how about we stop bickering to each other about it?
No doubt that Bandai is gonna push this type of joint into later SS figures like Den-O and OOO unless we actually let them know or they realize it themselves.

Now, how about we come together and try to find a solution for this in the waking moment that ur Hino Eiji had his elbow dislodge into orbit.

What if Bandai does fail to realize the issue?
What if Bandai actually realized and somehow forgot the issue?
What if there is someone at Bandai who actually warned of the issue
and somehow his warning got lost
in the sea of big corporation communication channel?
What if consumers "bickering" on online forums,
is the most feasible way to let Bandai be aware of the issue?

A consumer trying to find a solution to this issue
is a noble consumer.
Yet don't let it be your only choice.
The better, and the best solution, is solving the problem upstream.

Of course,
I consider all my "bullshit" here to be pointless :lol
once a third party company rises to the challenge
and pick up Bandai's slack. ;)

Oh, and BTW I've never owned the SHF SS OOO. :)
Several of my friends have.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka (Post 754739)

I think there's a slight missed nuances
in your understanding of my points.

Adding complexity DOES make the joints weaker,
thus more prone to breakage.
And weaker joints, thus broken joints,
do NOT necessarily result in mutilated limbs,
like my own experience of having broken left elbow joint on SHF KR Scissors
and cracked right knee joint on SHF KR Odin,
both only resulted in slight reduction in friction.

The Fighting Body figures have complex elbow joint system
with mechanism similar to the one on SHF SS OOO,
and it survived longer than its younger sibling.

So, can we apply the same conclusion we achieve on the Fighting Body figures
to the SHF SS OOO?
Professor Snape would say:
"Not... so fast, Potter."

How come?
The answer is in the old adage:
"The devil is in the details."

As my previous post stated:
They are the obvious details you'll see, if you dig deeper.
Deceptively obvious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka (Post 754739)

Your constant mention of the WORST POSSIBLE SITUATION THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN TO SHF SS KAMEN RIDER OOO is getting tiresome.
the worst possible situation that could ever happen to ANY figure... is it breaking, or being lost.

Duuude! :D
Of course I know about that point! :)

The mightiest force of the nature, TIME,
WILL destroy everything. EVERYTHING.
SHF SS OOO with the new joint system,
SHF SS OOO with the old joint system,
vintage 5 point Kenner Star Wars figures,
my sofubi figures,
my car,
my body,
the Earth,
Milky Way,
Donald Trump,
even the universe itself. :D

That kind of all-or-nothing, black-and-white thinking
was NEVER my point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waka (Post 754739)

While I appreciate you contributing to the forums and having conversations,
I don't think there is anything of substance with our interactions other than for you to continue to preach impending doom about this line because of some perceived engineering fault.
If you don't like them because you view them as structurally weak, that's fine and you can let it be known, as this IS a discussion thread.
Just stop with this "TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE" fear mongering.

Telling me to
'just stop with this TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE "fear mongering"'
is like telling me to
stop warning a car company of high probability of accidents
caused by their faulty brake system.

I'm truly truly sorry.
My ethical standards do not allow me to do that.

KamenRiderOOO

02-02-2020 07:50 PM

Zolda, I’ll say it. Yes, while your concern over the new joint system over SS OOO is valid, you don’t need to clog the thread with it with these overly excessive posts. Drop it.

SengalBoy

02-03-2020 03:51 AM

You could write a thesis with that kind of paragraphs.

Anyway considering that SS today has some sort of gimmicks associated with them, what do you think will be in the future releases? I'd imagine SS Faiz would have glowing stripes like that one special edition.

Man Faiz needs a SS so bad.

TheRaizin

02-03-2020 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SengalBoy (Post 754761)

Bruh.

SS Faiz with Glow in the dark stripes (Kaixa too plz and Delta.)

SS Ryuki with mirrors as accessories. Even better if they're broken. AND working Ryuki Deck. (Doesn't have to fit all cards, just be able to take one or two from the deck and into the dragredder scanner thingie.)

SS Blade with alternate worn-down suit helmet. (You know, the yellowed helmet) OR giant transparent blue ace card to mimic his transformation.

SS Fourze with swappable modu- oh wait...

SS Gaim with Arms change gimmick!

SS Ghost with cloth/better jacket and swappable gimmick.

HELL YEAH BOY!

barnstenchfartface

02-03-2020 06:48 AM

If SS Agito had been made around this time I wonder if they'd have just done it with all three base forms. Swappable arms and front chest armor feels pretty small potatoes by this point.

Kurona

02-03-2020 07:37 AM

Seihou Faiz with an incredibly small microscopic faiz chip for all his weapons that you instantly lose

DreamSword

02-03-2020 08:06 PM

All Seihou Faiz needs is the sonic cannon from the HBV and that's an instant purchase right there.

Kiryu

02-03-2020 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurona (Post 754766)

Seihou Faiz with an incredibly small microscopic faiz chip for all his weapons that you instantly lose

Better come with a tiny Axel Watch for Kaixa to chuck at him.

Kurona

02-03-2020 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiryu (Post 754837)

Better come with a tiny Axel Watch for Kaixa to chuck at him.

Has someone done that with an SHF Faiz Watch in its place yet? I feel like someone should do that

TheRaizin

02-04-2020 06:09 AM

Bandai pumping out model kit releases here and there of various Gunpla kits and Ultramen Figure-rise Standards and Den-O.

Me: waiting for new SHF releases since Sunday where a blog should've come out.

Can't blame them tho. Part of me thinks it was because NCov got their staff to take the day off tho.

SengalBoy

02-04-2020 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 754762)

Ryuki's gimmick is the most likely since SS Decade can do the same with the cards IIRC.

Idk if Gaim-present warrants an SS though, it seems that ever since Gaim they have been trying to make sure the 'entry' line of main Riders are good enough. Sure a lot of them aren't perfect like how Drive's shoulders limits his articulation a bit. Or at the very least, figures from Ex-Aid onwards are good enough to stand alongside Seihous.

The only one I can see if Ghost due to the parka. I mean I heard that Ghost have better articulation than Drive, but the plastic parkas looked very awkward at times.

Kurona

02-04-2020 10:09 AM

I'll admit I'm very confused whenever someone suggests Gaim of all lines to be getting Seihou renewals. It was and still is one of the most universally-loved Figuarts lines with technique and proportion advancements that are still being used today; on top of a good price range, a lack of exclusives and a wealth of accessories down to even Bravo's wine glass.

Ghost I can kind of understand due to those figures having some issues to do with the hoodies iirc, but every other relatively recent Rider figuarts after Wizard just doesn't need the treatment.

DreamSword

02-04-2020 07:04 PM

I know it's not likely, since I don't think Tamashii has ever done it before, but I hope if Ghost ever gets a Seihou, he comes with a wirecloth hoodie/parka instead of a plastic one. Or at the very least two different cloaks; One straight down, and another flowing for action poses.

TheRaizin

02-05-2020 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamSword (Post 754913)

LEGIT, I didn't even think of the rubber-like jackets of the SHF figures to be a bad idea. It was just the execution that killed it. The sleeves were fused to the shoulder instead of the actual jacket which killed any sort of shoulder outward movement. And then the jacket body is holding the entire body which paralyzed the figures completely. It baffled me when HASBRO did a better job at a rubber-like jacket than Bandai!

In any case, TARAI_YOU made a tutorial (albeit a long one) on how to basically make a poseable Parka jacket. I don't have the skills nor the SHFs to do it but someone might be able to do it in this forum.

The guy's great and has plenty of good stuff on his channel. Like, repositioning SHF hands, fixing broken shoulder armors or as how he sees it improving them, remodelling several SHFs, and even creating custom final forms! He lowkey looks cute too. No homo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHveAsEN6SQ

DreamSword

02-05-2020 06:55 PM

Damn, if only knew Japanese. I would legit commission that guy.

TheRaizin

02-06-2020 06:06 AM

https://twitter.com/RidergoodsFun/st...63815396225024

So, apparently we're getting SHF Kamen Rider reissues called: Best Selection. The only one revealed so far is Build. I'm guessing we'll get Ex-Aid, Drive, and Gaim as well. Apparently, the gimmick of this line is they're at an affordable price of 3500Y (tho, I believe that's for Build only.)

While this would be great, I already have Figure-Rise Build and I'm saving money for Zero-One SHFs. Tho, I do hope this means that Build's SHF price goes down. Will get Ex-Aid tho if he shows up in this line.

DH21965

02-06-2020 07:39 AM

Yay,more useless reissues of stuff that is EASILY available. Reissue fever,just like their Monster Arts(main reason I dropped the overpriced line) brand....Le Sigh

TheRaizin

02-06-2020 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH21965 (Post 754994)

Yay,more useless reissues of stuff that is EASILY available. Reissue fever,just like their Monster Arts(main reason I dropped the overpriced line) brand....Le Sigh

Yeah, they're easily available but I won't exactly pay 60$ for Build.

barnstenchfartface

02-06-2020 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH21965 (Post 754994)

Yay,more useless reissues of stuff that is EASILY available. Reissue fever,just like their Monster Arts(main reason I dropped the overpriced line) brand....Le Sigh

Despite the previous rerelease, both RabbitTanks remain fairly expensive on the aftermarket. The demand is there and it is not all that easily available, it's not a bad move.

Do wish they'd rerelease some Seihous sometime though, the prices for some of those like Hibiki, Kuuga and Kabuto are legitimately nuts. Agito too but I got that one the first go around at least. Though hopefully if they did they wouldn't bother with the less accessories stuff.

And either way, releases for KR remain constant, it's not like rereleases are supplanting the active lines like I understand they more or less did for SHMA.

Kurona

02-06-2020 09:58 AM

Yeah, this Build is like a third of the price he is on the aftermarket; so I'd hardly call this redundant or otherwise 'easily available'. It's very, very welcome.

The more exciting thing though is the precedent it sets: as noted, I'd REALLY like this to extend to Seihous. W, Agito, Hibiki, Decade... all of them are way too expensive even on mandarake, so a possible re-issue would be lovely. Hopefully they do non-main forms and non-main riders, too. Cross-Z in particular NEEDS this.

DreamSword

02-06-2020 10:37 AM

Hopefully future re-issues won't remove accessories like they did for Ultraman.

Kiwami

02-06-2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamSword (Post 755001)

Hopefully future re-issues won't remove accessories like they did for Ultraman.

If they feature the "Best Selection" branding than that is a likely possibility because other figure reissues announced also had accessories but, the Robot Damashii Gundam RX-78-2 for example lacked quite a bit of stuff.

Infinitevirtue

02-06-2020 01:19 PM

Looks like Zero One is out now! Hacchaka's review/gallery for Zero One: http://blog.livedoor.jp/hacchaka/archives/52053305.html

Electric Turahk

02-06-2020 01:58 PM

Looks like Zero One can glow in the dark!

DreamSword

02-06-2020 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Turahk (Post 755012)

Looks like Zero One can glow in the dark!

Holy crap that's cool. Hopefully more Rider figures in the future get glow in the dark paint. At the very least applied to the eyes.

Kiwami

02-06-2020 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Turahk (Post 755012)

Looks like Zero One can glow in the dark!

Like any neon-yellow / green plastic if shined on with blue light. It's not a glow in the dark feature; they would’ve advertised the hell out of this figure if it had one :lol

Infinitevirtue

02-07-2020 12:29 AM

The SHF blog updated with a Zero One post including a couple more Valkyrie photos:

https://i.imgur.com/o1jwYpv.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/emu4APU.jpg

Also a group photo!

https://i.imgur.com/QxQ1wLt.jpg

http://blog.livedoor.jp/shfiguarts/a...076704000.html

SengalBoy

02-07-2020 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 755014)

Like any neon-yellow / green plastic if shined on with blue light. It's not a glow in the dark feature; they would’ve advertised the hell out of this figure if it had one :lol

Welp, time to buy a blue light just because.

TheRaizin

02-07-2020 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinitevirtue (Post 755052)

And they're all together now! Surprised the photographer didn't mimic the end shot of the opening tho.

With these in mind, the next couple of announcements should be Shining/Assault Hopper and Assault Vulcan. If those are both P-Bandai, it pretty much confirms Thouser as the third retail rider. If not, I'm crossing my fingers for Burning Falcon Jin.

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