It's so hard to be objective here. I'm going to wait and vote later in the day.....

I'm not finding it hard to be objective. This is just an incredibly hard choice. These 2 are power houses.

No kidding, this is a battle that could really go either way.

That too. But my first instinct with OOO vs anyone else is to go with OOO because I'm horribly biased.

Two extremely versatile, insanely powerful riders. Unlike other rounds, I don't have an obvious choice to pick this round...

I don't blame you. I have a whole paragraph typed up about how OOO could counter Kuuga and win just in case someone goes "Kuuga can wipe the floor with OOO."

Switchblade where you at? :lol

He already placed his vote, and last I checked his page, he's typing up something big as a reply :lol

I can see this one going either way, but I'm going to rep my boy Kuuga all the way.

A few points that make me put Kuuga over the edge:

- Rising Pegasus (yes, I will not argue here that Kuuga wouldn't need to default to his Rising forms). This form alone would shut down both TaJaDor and PuToTyra when they took to the air as well as RaToraTah if it tried playing the superspeed game. Fliers and speedsters are what Pegasus form was made to fight against (in fairness, though, if Eiji were to use the Lion medal's flash attack it would really fuck with Yusuke's enhanced sight in this form).

- Rising Dragon form can easily match GataKiriBa and ShaUTa's speed. Meanwhile, those forms' lightning attacks are going to be pretty useless against the electricity-enhanced Rising form.

- Rising Titan and SaGoZo is a wash. They cancel each other out pretty evenly. SaGoZo has a bit longer range, but Rising Titan has stronger armor and isn't as badly slowed down.

- As I mentioned earlier, Rising Mighty form's Rider Kick has a huge blast radius. Hit one GataKiriBa form and they're all caught in the resulting explosion.

- Ultimately (no pun intended) this all comes down to PuToTyra vs. Ultimate Form. I never bet against Ultimate Kuuga (actually, part of me wants to see berserker PuToTyra go up against black-eyed Ultimate form, but I'm pretty sure nobody wins in that fight).

Sorry, multi-tasking this with watching the new AT4W. :p

And now my counter argument!
Now before you all go “Kuuga will wipe the floor with OOO,” I shall tell you why this will be a close fight. Despite Kuuga having powerful base forms (Dragon, Pegasus and Titan), OOO has something to counter them. Dragon is maneuverable and has great jumping ability? GataKiriBa and RaToraTah say hi. Pegasus has heightened senses and is the ultimate sniper? Take ShaJaTah (Shachi, Kujaku, Cheetah.) Echolocation abilities, the TaJa Spinner and high speeds? That gives him the ability to act along side Kuuga’s Pegasus Form. Or better yet, just got straight into TaJaDor- Taka’s ability to spy weak points on opponents, plus the ability to fly, peacock feather missiles, the TaJa Spinner and the Prominence Drop Rider Kick. Titan’s super strong and has invulnerable armor? Uh, he still has vulnerable spots. Counter him with SaGoZo’s gravity abilities to hold him down (you seem to have forgotten about those my friend.) Or just pull out PuToTyra and freeze Titan, impale him and break him with the Tyranno Tail. Oh! Switching to Rising I see! Yeah, just equip whatever combo I just talked about with the MedaGabryu, should save you the trouble, since it helps give each form the strength of PuToTyra (through the MedaGabryu’s finisher) while keeping their form. Also Switchblade, you brought up a good point, RaToraTah's blinding light can hurt Rising Pegasus's vision. Amazing Mighty can take out an entire city block?! Oh no, whatever shall we do?! Oh, I know, go BuraKaWani with his healing factor, or just go TaJaDor, load the 3 medals from the PuToTyra Clone, and just turn Amazing Mighty into a black hole. Counter by going Ultimate?! Super TaToBa stops time long enough to allow an earlier GataKiriBa clone to make copies and combo spam Kuuga by using the TaToBa, TaJaDor, and Super TaToBa’s abilities to find Ultimate Kuuga’s weak points, then have each other combo be there with SaGoZo holding Ultimate Kuuga down with Gravity, GataKiriBa doing multiple slashes and kicks, ShaUTa electrocuting and then drill kicking, RaToraTah slashing at him multiple times, PuToTyra delivering a bunch of PuToTyranno Hissatsus and then BuraKaWani summoning his giant Cobra. Then TaToBa does his kick, TaJaDor attacks with Prominence Drop, and Super TaToBa finishes with Super TaToBa kick, unfreezes time, and THEN TaJaDor uses the purple medals and sends Kuuga through a black hole. And before you go “Eiji will just get exhausted due to combo use,” he’s found his desire by now. The only reason you saw him knocked out during the final episode was due to the fact that the explosion in the Medal Vessel happened AFTER he lost his Core Medals in the OOO Driver, resulting in him being caught in the explosion while being untransformed. It only exhausted him when he didn’t have his desire. Now that he has it, he can use his combos to full power. And from what we saw in Megamax, he can use them in quick succession without showing an ounce of being exhausted. Don’t discount OOO just yet all because Kuuga was known as the strongest Rider of all time. Also we have this Core Medal Count-

2X Taka
2X Kujaku
2X Condor
3X Kuwagata
3X Kamakiri
3X Batta
2X Lion
3X Tora
3X Cheetah
2X Sai
2X Gorilla
3X Zou
2X Shachi
2X Unagi
2X Tako
1X Ptera (seen in SHT)
1X Torikera (seen in SHT)
1X Tyranno (seen in SHT)
1X Cobra
1X Kame
1X Wani
1X Super Taka
1X Super Tora
1X Super Batta

What’s to say he just makes clones for the main combos and doesn’t make some to utilize random combos?

I'm not going to quote everything... Cause you asked OOO to go on about OOO and he wrote another book :lol But I'm going for OOO in this one for every reason he said.

Unlike other battles, I'm not going to enter this debate.

I believe OOO would win because all of Kuuga's possible counters has a weakness to the form OOO can use. Pegasus has a sensory enhancement, if I recall, so LaToraTah's flash of light to Kuuga would be like him trying to win a staring contest against a legion of flashbangs. Dragon would be fighting against a literal army against GataKiriBah. And SaGoZoh has gravity control to stop Titan.

im gonna go with ooo just cause he can use all his forms at once where as kuuga cant.

All I can say is, NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS!


I'm going to have to go with Kuuga. Just going with Rising Mighty, the blast radius from the Rider Kick is 3000 meters (according to wikipedia). That's the RADIUS, so unless my math is bad, that's a four mile diameter crater in which all of the GataKiriBa clones you want are dead, and I don't think Eiji is going to survive it either.

And that's just Rising Mighty. Every attack by Ultimate Form causes the target to bleed, regardless of armor, so Eiji will eventually bleed out. Kuuga wins.

ok to all of u who say that kuuga can win because of that city block thing, gatakiriba can multiply and populate the entire earth inch to inch, that's a lot of blocks

And Ultimate Kuuga's rider kick is even stronger than Rising Mighty's, if you're gonna go and base victory on a scenario that never happened.

OOO will win becuse at the end of the day this is just a popularity contest. The real winner is Kuuga because his kick can take out 100 OOOses at once.

Can't Ultimate Kuuga's rider kick destroy the Earth if he got out of control?

again, literally infinite gatakiriba, there's no contest

And OOO can shoot someone to oblivion.
And he can fly. :I

"Kuuga can beat OOO just because." is a worse way to justify a win than winning through popularity.
*Takes victory sip over Decade's (Arguably the most popular Rider here) loss*

really? i dont see a lot of decade fans around here, and decade lost for a stuoid reason

Again, hundreds does not equal infinite. If you think OOO could win the contest, base it on fact rather than possibility.

But what you have to ask is this: would the heroic Kuuga go so far as to defeat OOO even at the unproven cost of destroying the entire world?

I went with OOO because quite frankly, Kuuga never survived a black hole. It takes a ridiculous amount of power to escape something with a gravitational pull so strong that not even light can escape it.

since when did they put a limiter on it?

There isn't a limiter, but I don't ever remember seeing an "infinite" number being produced in the show. There was like a couple of hundred at the most at any given time. Like I say if you can turn around and say infinite clones, than I can say Ultimate Kuuga could possibly obliterate them with ease given how strong Rising Mighty's kick was. Both things are possible, but neither have ever actually been shown :p

"OOOs wins because clones" is an even more ridiculous statement than "Kabuto wins because clock up".

well kabuto would win with clock up, and a few 100 is more than a city block,

my biggest issue with OOO winning matches is that all you have to do is intercept the coins as they are being thrown, or knock that blasted book out of his hand (or shoot if your Rider has a gun form). With the exception of the 3 he carries and if the has the purple coins inside of him, all the other forms can just be intercepted. Kuuga changes as needed, and yes has the forms to counter/evade/obliterate. OOO has power, and versitality, but in the end a quick shot and he is stuck in base form.

That's not an option. Transformation is a free action.

Yeah! A more plausible statement is "OOO wins because he can utilize those clones to access all his combos at once." :p :lol

He has spots for 6 other Cores in the holder on his belt. And like we saw in MegaMax, he's been shown to be able to switch Cores out in quick succession. And like Matrixbeast said, transformation is free action. And OOO's changes at least create a barrier of the Medal's energy when he shifts Combos.

Totally agreed my good sir.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xs2...ick_shortfilms

See that explosion radius? There's enough room in that explosion for about 500 OOOs. And that's just Rising Mighty. Not Amazing. Not Ultimate. Rising Mighty. Logic dictates that if Rising can take out 500 OOOs, then Ultimate can take out this so called "infinite" OOOs people keep making up.

Yeah...I'm not supporting the "Infinite OOO" clause. Just the "Right amount of combos to hand an ass whooping" clause. :p If Rising Mighty jumps in the air to do that, he'll just get intercepted by TaJaDor, RaToraTah, GataKiriBa or PuToTyra, or just held up there by SaGoZo.

i never said thats what would happen, im just saying that u shouldnt say because of the kick, and they wouldnt all be right next to eachother standing there waiting to be kicked, they would shoot him out of the sky with tajador, done

I thought this battle would be a lot closer to be honest. My vote is for OOO. Kuuga has lots of options, but OOO has an answer for each of them.

Except Kuuga's kick still triggers. Whatever Kuuga hits with his foot once he throws the kick (doesn't have to be in the air) will trigger the explosion. Kuuga has triggered his rider kick by accident before as proof of this. It might not be as strong, but with Rising it's more than enough to take out plenty of OOOs.

there are 21 one different medals, each have 3 of each kind, not to mention super and the king medals. the a lot of ooo, not to mention just copies of gatakiriba

Actually coturos, buddy, I have OOO only utilizing the Cores he had as of Super Hero Taisen (and now Ultimatum, since the Orange Cores have been confirmed) so his Core Medal Count is like this-

2X Taka
2X Kujaku
2X Condor
3X Kuwagata
3X Kamakiri
3X Batta
2X Lion
3X Tora
3X Cheetah
2X Sai
2X Gorilla
3X Zou
2X Shachi
2X Unagi
2X Tako
1X Ptera (seen in SHT)
1X Torikera (seen in SHT)
1X Tyranno (seen in SHT)
1X Cobra
1X Kame
1X Wani
1X Super Taka
1X Super Tora
1X Super Batta

wouldnt there only be one taka left because of ankh

Well for some odd reason he had two with him, as he was able to give Marvelous the TaJaDor key in SHT

well maybe he destroyed like two kujakus killing lost ankh. oh sorry my ignorance, when he made him cease to exist since he was never alive :lol