OK. I'm going to be really frank here. If you can't see the bias, then you're absolutely, completely, horrifically ignorant or you're in absolute denial. (Maybe you're wearing the ever effective Nintendo fanboy goggles that so many Smash players love?) Or, hopefully, you haven't just looked at the bigger picture.

-Kid Icarus has three representatives. That's more then both DK and Metroid, two far bigger franchises
-Pit got a complete move-set overhaul. The only move he had in Brawl that is still here is the Arrow. It should be noted that every single move Pit had that wasn't directly attributed to KI:U (the game Sakurai developed) has been cut.
-While Pit gets a complete move-set overhaul, Ganondorf is still a Falcon clone
-Kirby, likewise, got new moves. Kirby and Pit are the only two characters that got new moves that weren't from a "transformation" move being cut
-Kirby, Dedede and Pit are the only characters that got new Final Smashes except for Luigi and Lucario that weren't born out of complete necessity.
-Palutena is the only character (except Mii Fighter) to have more then 4 moves. She has twelve. The custom moves of every other character are simply variations of their normal moves (like moves faster or has a slightly different effect)
-Dark Pit is given a completely new Final Smash. Falco still has Landmaster. Dr Mario still has Mario Finale. Sheik still has Light Arrow. Toon Link still has Triforce Slash. Lucina still has Critical Strike. See where this is going?
-Kid Icarus. Sorry. Kid Icarus: Uprising has 6 new items, making it the franchise with by far the most new items in the game. One of these items is a "collect for the ultimate power" item, like the Dragoon. Also from a Sakurai game. In a single game, Kid Icarus now has more item representation then Metroid, DK, Fire Emblem, Mother, F-Zero... In fact Pokemon, Mario and Zelda (by 1 item) are the only franchises with more items. Note that all six new items came from a single game, while the previous three franchises have items spanning from hundreds of games.
-DK, one of Nintendo's biggest franchises right now with games more popular and better received then KI:U could ever hope got exactly ZERO Assist Trophies, ZERO new stages, ZERO newcomers and ZERO items
-Metroid only got slightly better with one new Assist Trophy, no newcomers, one new stage and no new items
-Smash Run is populated by more Kid Icarus: Uprising enemies then any other franchise. 16 Kid Icarus enemies, opposed to next highest, which is Mario (11).

... Do I need to go on?

And "Who"? Are you kidding me?

-Wolf
-Ivysaur
-Squirtle
-Ice Climbers
-Lucas

All cut. Ivysaur, Squirtle and Ice Climbers were even three completely original characters. Not a single character on the roster comes close to their unique ways of playing. I don't shed a tear personally for Lucas and Wolf, but the cuts have been pretty significant.

And no, 100% suited to my taste would have had no cuts, Skull Kid newcomer, Dixie Kong newcomer, Dark Samus newcomer, Ridley newcomer and Bayonetta as a third party newcomer plus an overhauled Ganondorf and tweaked move-sets and Final Smashes on many other characters (ironically neither Kirby nor Pit needed tweaks). Either way, even people who are 100% content with the roster should see where there's a problem.

Metroid got two assist trophies (Mother Brain and Dark Samus).
But I didn't notice DK didn't get much love in this game. Kind of sucks, considering Tropical Freeze was pretty fun.

So has anything been said about Ice Climbers being cut? I can't find the post now (or maybe it wasn't even here) but I remember reading somebody making an offhand brief comment that it was said they wouldn't work for the 3DS for some odd reason. Even if I didn't play them often, they were fun when doing random matchups.

Speaking of Random... Yeah, I'm just gonna ignore everything you're saying basically. It doesn't seem you really get what anyone's trying to say.

Some BS about the 3DS not being able to control both 'Climbers at once. Although apparently the 3DS is more powerful then the Gamecube and Rosalina and Luma function similarly so...

Also, ROB has been unlocked, prompting the message "A new All Star Mode has been unlocked! Defeat all of the fighters!"

http://i.imgur.com/hZVKQ1R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SdecBGR.jpg

So... We're done here. The ESRB leak was indeed the full roster and the Mii Fighters disappear from the main roster once the whole roster is unlocked, so that explains their absence in the leak.

I can't even begin to start making sense of that. *sigh*

I thought it was a case of the 3DS only being able to handle so many characters on screen at a given time (including assist trophies/pokeballs etc.) and the Ice Climbers tipped the balance of that?

*shrug* I haven't been following the specifics of the game for a while, I just remember seeing that somewhere.

There's absolutely no need to get so hostile, I just don't see the problems you do. Maybe there's more things included from certain games, but I don't see any kind of hidden agenda or attempt to push certain franchises over others in some grand conspiracy.

-Wolf and Lucas I expained in my last post. I'll also remind you that back when Wolf was announced for Brawl, people were just as furious as they are with Dark Pit.

-Ice Climbers seem to be gone due to hardware limitations. Considering all the transformation characters were switched to separate characters, that seems pretty believable.

-Squirtly/Ivysaur were MORE Pokemon and MORE gen 1 Pokemon, which is part of the reason I think we've lost Mewtwo as well. I love both of them, but we don't need that many Pokemon and if we do, there should be a bit more variety. They were never going to be in without the Pokemon Trainer, Greninja and Charizard were just better selections.

Of course I see there's problems with the roster and of course there's characters I would have liked to see included, I just think there's a ridiculous amount of childish rage over it that's completely unnecessary.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/52720bbb...8um6o1_400.gif

That fucker...

I'm sorry but that's bull, Rosalina and Luma have the same thing as the Ice climbers. There was no reason to remove the Ice climbers in favor of Rosalina.

Are you still on about Rosalina? Fucking christ...It'd be as if I made certain to include bitching about Ridley's lack of inclusion ever other post...

Anyway, a friend of mine is joking that PETA is gonna throw a bitchfit over being able to drop kick the Duck Hunt Dog :p