Those land animals are drawn really cute...!

Personally, my thoughts are:

Suzunne
- Bat, because bats use echolocation

Gekido
- Elephant, because it fits the Earth element the most, but I could see the Hammerhead being fit into that category.

Hayate
- Big Cat, because most big cats like Cheetahs, Panthers, Lynxes are all pretty fast

Kurayami
- Squid maybe? In my mind it kind of works because squids can wrap their tentacles around prey to immobilize them, and the Kurayami can seal the other Seiken to stop their wielders. Plus back when Kamijo was Calibur, he used the Kurayami's power to immobilize Touma, Rintaro, and Kento that one time.

Also, as I'm writing this I've discovered a slight problem in the missing animals theory. Namely, there are 9 animals (10 counting the lion) on the Tategami Hyoujuu Senki book, but 11 Seiken.

Are you counting king of Arthur because the Kamen rider wiki counts kingexcalibur as one of the sacred blades on the ridebook page

The show doesn’t, though. The eleven are:

Kaenken Rekka
Suiseiken Nagare
Raimeiken Ikazuchi
Dogouken Gekido
Fuusouken Hayate
Onjuuken Suzune
Ankokuken Kurayami
Mumeiken Kyomu
Kougouken Saikou
Eneiken Noroshi
Jikukoken Kaiji

Yeah, Kingexcalibur is listed as a separate sword with the King of Arthur book attached to it, but the canon has never listed it as its own Seiken. The wiki tends to sprinkle in a bit of fanon, from my personal experience over the years. It's not always the most reliable.

Hope i ask it in the right place.

So, with Fuuto Tantei, Black Sun, and ShinKR, is it means there's no special movie with current Rider like OOO and Ghost?

[double post. Sorry]

It's literally shown in Yuri's explanation and Kento's visions what the Seiken are:
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Huh, I guess you're right, Saber isn't getting a standalone movie this time around.

The standalone movie seems to be already the Falchion movie. However, it's yet to be seen if Super Hero Senki is just a double-billing or it's actually a crossover movie.

I feel like they only counting it there because it has it's own book. They're sorting it with other books that are used in the show, not by it's sword. Though I can see how it might seem like that.

I mean, where else are they supposed to put it?

Are people still thinking we're getting Wonder Combos for the other Riders? It's not happening. The Swordriver has all the non-Rekka, Nagare & Ikazuchi Books seen in the show classified as simply "Wonder Rider" books, so they don't work for Combos.

Mei is gonna be turned into a a Megid. I just wonder how long Ren will finally become like Desast?

Yes, that is what I said. It's its own sword, not a Seiken. The wiki likes to add in its own fanon interpretation at times.

Yeah, there aren't going to be Wonder Combos for Suzune/Hayate/Gekidou. Especially since both Hayate and Suzune have two 'story' books assigned to them. I have a feeling that we're not going to be seeing any other kind of DX upgrades for that trio for the rest of the TV run. Maybe a V-Cinema, though. (Prove me wrong, Toei! 🙏 )

I find it kinda funny that you talk about the wiki's fanon interpretation, and then say the swords have those books assigned to them, when that's also the wiki applying fanon to them.

I am going off of the DX Swordriver's color-coded scan announcements, not the wiki. But I see your point lol.

I mean, aside from King of Arthur, all of the books used in the show are designed to match a specific rider. King of Arthur is designed to be one of a kind, even though it's mostly used by Saber. I can't think of any better way to group the books. They're all grouped with the sword of the rider who uses that book the most, except for Arthur, which is it's own thing. What other way would you even sort them?

I group them by the jingle that plays when used in the Swordriver. I admit that this means that every standard book used in the series aside from the 9 used for Wonder Combos are all grouped as Wonder Rider Books. It's just that the other way seems kinda arbitrary. What happens if Ren uses Jackun 2 more times? Do you then reclassify that book as being associated with Hayate instead of Gekido?

To me personally, even if say, Slash gave Bremen over to Buster who proceeded to be the only one to use it every episode till the end, it wouldn't change how that book is permamently associated with Slash, and I feel the same for the other books used by the 'side' trio. Jackun will always be Buster's even if from here on out, everyone else uses it more than he does.

I mean, Ren could probably snatch the Alter Ride Book used to summon Dezast in an attempt to unseal half of his blade.

If Saber will ever be adapted someday...

• Saber: Fire within me!
• Blades: Water around me!
• Espada: Thunder strike me!
• Buster: Earth beneath me!
• Kenzan: Winds above me!
• Slash: Sound resonate me!
• Calibur: Darkness consume me!
• Saikou: May the light shine on me!
• Sabela: Smoke vanish me!
• Durendal: Time control all!
• Falchion: Void awaken me!

Someone’s seen Knights of Tir Na Nog

You make it sound like that's a bad thing. Lol!

I swear if they decide to adapt saber and make it a sequel to mystic knights I will be really confused because I never saw it as a child I only saw the tail end of wildforce that was as early as my toku ness goes

Inspired by that. If Zero-One or Build get adapted first, I wanna see Saber adapted later on.

Anyway, I thought Mystic Knights' vibes would be fitting in some way.

What do you think? Slash's henshin call needs fixing right?

"Sound conduct me," mayhaps?

Sound surround me?

"Face the music!"

What about Sound Resonate Me

I like it!

What do you all think of Saikou’s, Sabela’s and Durendal’s henshin calls?

What can be fixed?
Saikou: May the light shine on me!
Sabela: Smoke vanish me!
Durenal: Time control all!

I think Sabela is good
For the other two:
Saikou: Light envelope me
Durandal: Time guide me, as using his time skip puts him in an advantageous position.

Light envelope me sounds good as well as Durendal's.

"The winds above me" for Kenzan fine?

Plus can you all imagine if Master Logo was the real final boss, either looking like a Megid, a rider or something else entirely?

I’d say that a few could be adjusted

Blades: Water before me
Espada: Lightning above me
Kenzan: Wind around me

As for Logos, since there is an image of Elemental Saber fighting Falchion, it could be that Logos becomes him.

Blades & Kenzan's sound better.

Though for Espada. I like "Thunder strike me". Although "Lightning/Thunder above me" sounds cool.

I just hope its true for Logos to become the new Falchion after Bacht.

Set leak of Espada going up against Durandal (I think.). Espada's back! Very good match up too considering Espada is a fast rider so he should be able to keep up with Durandal a bit.

Took the pic from /m/.

Can it be Kento though? Or someone else entirely? I hope it can be Mei.

As for Hayate... only half the power sealed. Calibur oughta seal one more blade to cancel the transformation entirely.

You probably know by now, but sadly this is fake.

It’s weird aquaman rider controls time like Odin instead of ocean creature .

We~ll Blades already is in charge of water and by now they made it clear the animals don't neccessarily have to coincide with what we traditionally associate them with when it comes to these things. Heck, Sabella is a smoke elemental and she has a bug motif as opposed to something like plants and our titular hero Saber has a eagle despite being a fire type. And if we really wanna get accurate Buster should be water type instead of earth cause the Black Tortoise is in charge of water when we are talking about the five priciples concept from Asia; Azure Dragon being the avatar of wood, Vermilion Bird the avatar of fire, White Tiger the avatar of metals, and Yellow Dragon the avatar of earth.

You're thinking too little in terms of oceanic references.

There is a man who loves the sea, and his name is Jotaro Kujo. He also controls a time based stand, even if he just uses it for beating people up.

Combine the fact that it also does some sort of spacial warping, or fast forwarding like King Crimson and they don't do much to explain his abilities while just throwing him at you, and you've got a walking literal Jojo Reference.

whales can also be super freaking old