Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 286919)

#2 is probably too similar to Fourze for the time being.

I think #5 would need a bit more to set it apart from every other KR series. After all, KR is a like a live action MK, SF, TK, and DBZ already.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 286954)

I thought Kiva was a cool show, but a lot more haphazard than other Kamen Rider series. And the ending was pretty disappointing. But they handled the timelines really well (yeah, I'm even a fan of the time travel).

But I am biased... I will always love a Rider who's forms are powered by a Vampire, a Frankenstein monster, a Wolfman, and a swamp Creature.


You bring up a cool angle, though. It would be cool to have a group of Riders, each one with forms that represent a different culture's traditional monsters.

There could be the American/Euro monsters (Vamps, Frankenstein monster, Werewolves, etc) Rider. Then riders based on monsters from China, Japan, India, Russia, Africa, Scandinavia, etc. I'd love that.


I'd also be into an "Adventurer"/Indiana Jones-style motif. But only so long as the main Rider had an Indiana-style fedora and whip. (I think we all know how cool KR Skull looked with a fedora.)

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 286954)

I thought Kiva was a cool show, but a lot more haphazard than other Kamen Rider series. And the ending was pretty disappointing. But they handled the timelines really well (yeah, I'm even a fan of the time travel).

But I am biased... I will always love a Rider who's forms are powered by a Vampire, a Frankenstein monster, a Wolfman, and a swamp Creature.


You bring up a cool angle, though. It would be cool to have a group of Riders, each one with forms that represent a different culture's traditional monsters.

There could be the American/Euro monsters (Vamps, Frankenstein monster, Werewolves, etc) Rider. Then riders based on monsters from China, Japan, India, Russia, Africa, Scandinavia, etc. I'd love that.


I'd also be into an "Adventurer"/Indiana Jones-style motif. But only so long as the main Rider had an Indiana-style fedora and whip. (I think we all know how cool KR Skull looked with a fedora.)

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 287002)

That really makes me want to give Kiva another chance.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 287002)

That really makes me want to give Kiva another chance.

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 287081)

Go for it. Some praise it as the epitome of KR, others decry it as the worst of Heisei. Opinions are split so much concerning Kiva that I'm curious what you have to say over it.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 287079)

Kiva is an odd duck, and it's not for everyone. For one, it only pays off about 5 of the 1,000,000 elements it introduces. So the ending is kind of unsatisfying. But if you're not expecting everything (or much of anything, really) to be explained, you'll be better off than I was.

But the ride is really fun, and the way they handle the dual time periods leads to some really well written episodes.

It's definitely a YMMV deal, but I had a lot of (pretty mindless) fun with the show.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 287084)

I dunno whether you remember Matrix but I checked Kiva out before, but promptly dropped it after a few episodes where shit was just happening randomly and all the effects were horrible.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 287121)

The first few episodes definitely toss you in the deep end with absolutely zero explanation of what's going on. But I really love how batshit insane that makes everything feel. If you just turn off your critical faculties and let the jarring craziness wash over you, it can be really fun... even though you have to work really hard to piece together the random weirdness at first.

But yeah. I was incredibly confused for the first like 4 episodes.

I think episode 4, where Kiva first uses his Garuru (Wolf Man) power up, is the point where I realized that the narrative conventions of this show weren't going to be quite like any other. For better or worse...

Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 287206)

We've seen cards, whistles, usb drives, medals, switches, rings & locks.

How about...
- fossils
- discs/disks
- batteries
- power cells
- orbs
- keys
- wheels
- spinning tops
- marbles