Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 306276)

^Best theory yet.

Originally Posted by EitoRanger (Post 306305)

Thanks :D, I've been working on it ever since episode 12 when we learned about Kaito and Mai's past and each time I see the Sacred Tree in Yggdrasil's base I just keep coming back to it. Besides with how deliberate the pacing is and how almost no scene seems to be filler, it's hard to believe Urobotchi spent a good chunk of time in two episodes dedicated to Kaito and Mai talking about their shared past if it wasn't important to the plot.

I'm really hoping that this will lead to the dancing part of the Beat Riders to be able actually become important to the plot instead of just as a part of the setting. Mai started dancing as a beat rider to try and remind the city of the Summer festival but that will probably be more expanded on during the summer.

Originally Posted by EitoRanger (Post 306305)

Thanks :D, I've been working on it ever since episode 12 when we learned about Kaito and Mai's past and each time I see the Sacred Tree in Yggdrasil's base I just keep coming back to it. Besides with how deliberate the pacing is and how almost no scene seems to be filler, it's hard to believe Urobotchi spent a good chunk of time in two episodes dedicated to Kaito and Mai talking about their shared past if it wasn't important to the plot.

I'm really hoping that this will lead to the dancing part of the Beat Riders to be able actually become important to the plot instead of just as a part of the setting. Mai started dancing as a beat rider to try and remind the city of the Summer festival but that will probably be more expanded on during the summer.

Originally Posted by TheFightingSpirit (Post 306555)

Time travel doesn't have to be exclusively in the scifi domain. Plenty of writers blend the lot all the time.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 306570)

Hm. That's true. First thing I think of are the time turners from Harry Potter.

I guess magic tends to allow a writer to include time travel in a story while sidestepping certain tricky questions of causality. Because, you know, magic. :lol

Originally Posted by EitoRanger (Post 306247)

While I can see all the reasons for it being the future, I can't fully get behind the idea because of it's relation to the sacred tree and thus also the shrine Mai's father was a priest of.

I can't help but question why is it only through the tree that Yggdrasil can hold a permanent crack open? Personally my theory is that Helheim was an ancient Forrest/alternate dimension and Yggdrasil somehow found out about the ancient forest and reconstructed the city of Zawame just so they could get their hands on it's secrets/find out how to use it for their own gain. Which is why they took the Sacred tree, tore down the shrine, and hid the tree in their labs. But the company was blinded by their own greed(desire for knowledge, for power, etc.) that they disturbed the balance and without the summer festival at the shrine possibly helping keep the barrier strong, that lead to cracks opening up and the need to create weapons to fight the inves.

As for what I think Mitchi might of saw, either a burning crater filled with the original inhabitants of Helheim, or maybe the burning remains of another city that had an access point to Helheim like Zawame, except this one failed and was dragged into Helheim itself.

Besides wouldn't it be deliciously ironic to find out that the guys totting that 'the ends justify the means' ended up being the whole reason they need to go to such extremes to save humanity in the first place. Hard to justify that mindset when it was the very mindset that cause humanity to be in danger in the first place.

Originally Posted by goseigold (Post 307490)

1.first of all don't forget that yggdrasil are artificially forcing the crack to remain open

2.as for your theory of what mitchi saw youre theory and the one that he sees the battlefield from episode 1 could be the same thing (on a side note that might shed light on this question and the theory-are they any lost city stories(you know like atlantis) from norse mythology or japanese mythology that could possibly match the theory of bieng dragged into Helheim?)