PR is more mature than Sentai, but only in the sense that a kid feels he's more mature because he learned a swear word and started saying it a lot

Zero-Two is Zero-One's final form. That is all. Thank you for your time. *mic drop*

Police? Yes, here's the one.

Also to be honest, this seems to be the general consensus
However I hate the suit so I reject your facts and substitute my own.

Zero-Two is one of the best suits in 01, and one of the few times the final form beats out the base form (even if only a little)

Zero One lost its suit style halfway through the show and just started throwing random nonsense at the wall.

Except for Gatling and Ark Scorpion.

If there's any suit that qualifies as looking like random nonsense, it's Ark Scorpion.

Yeah but I feel it's the only one that pulls it off.

You want random nonsense check out episode 18 of Kiva.

Counter point: Zero Two is the best suit to come out of that show and I will die on this hill.

I swear, it's almost aggravating. I haven't the slightest clue what people like in that suit.

It randomly adds red and silver into the Zero One look, and looks more like a Legend Rider suit for Nigo than a mainline suit to me.

Counterpoint to your counterpoint

*gestures at Ichigata*

I jest, but like Ichigata and Zero-Two are like my top two for me.

If it was random I am sure the folks at PLEX would do even worse. Heck, probably plaster Hayato Ichimonji's face all over the suit or just paint it using 10 random colors using a 3-year old's multicolor rendition of Zero-One in a coloring book as reference. :lolol
Those red gloves and silver stripes are not random, that was deliberately a nod to Nigo who first donned the silver stripes in his old suit and red gloves for his new suit.

So it's a Legend Rider armor, like I said.

Only if Rising Hopper is what you'd consider a Legend Rider armour.

But like, aside from being a good reference it's a great way to show both the culmination of Aruto's dreams before the show wrecked it and the advancement of technology -- it's essentially a remake of Rising Hopper, the crowning achievement of Aruto taking up his role but with his own spin on it past anything his predecessors could have done. I think it's a perfect expression of everything the show was meant to be about

I've never seen people compare Rising to a previous rider, though. At least not to the extent that Zero Two is. Rising's elements work on their own, as a simplistic reboot of the standard Rider style, but not any suit in particular. Zero Two's elements only work in context of Nigo, and with that removed, it's just a mess of newly introduced colors.

Also, we already had a remake of Rising in Shining, which pushed the suit motifs in a bolder look, rather than piggybacking off of 'hey I get that reference.'
...before they just yeeted it in favor of throwing more colors in.

They're not piggybacking off of or relying on the reference, it's... just a reference. One that I have in fact never actually seen them state out loud, and one that presumably they decided would work well because the red adds a lot to the suit and complements its palette that makes it both familiar to Zero-One yet still very distinct from it. I also pretty constantly saw 01's design complemented as a 'back to basics' design in the context of using Rider 1's design elements and motifs.

I wouldn't call Shining a remake of Rising as much as I would an enhancement, one that's clearly still the Zero-One system but ramped up. Shining and 02 are both improvements over Rising Hopper, but 02 is in a way where it's something new.

I'd really have to disagree on the red, but that's just me. also maybe my confusion on the reference was due to a considerable portion of the buzz being 'hey look, it's Nigo'

I also think it's kind of a stretch to say that Rising is based particularly on 1, but that's probably just me thinking the design elements of 1 have become engrained in Kamen Rider as a concept so much.

Funny enough, I got the exact opinion, just switch the two in your example :D

Look, e got death! Look, we got a nihilistic doctor! Are we gonna do those elements with any particular amount of care? Kinda, sorta, it's mostly messy. As more kid-friendly PR is, its consistent tone and more focus on their main themes, instead of going off on mushroom-haircut-induced greed adventures do make it more effective for me.

Quick side note, I do like Abbaranger, it just has a few kinks, Abbarekiller probably the biggest.

Power Rangers has themes??

I don't get why people say Ghost's suits are so great. The hoodies are cluttered and make the whole design look top-heavy, the undersuits are bland with generic armor shapes and repetitive markings, and the masks are all over the place with a few really good ones but a whole bunch of bleh. Like most of Ghost, they had interesting ideas and a lot of potential but clumsy execution.

Wiseman's helmet did the "hooded Rider" look way better despite not technically being a hood.

That reminds me of a very unpopular opinion of sorts I have in regarding Abare Killer from Abaranger that I have in my head for quite a while ever since I finished the series and that is I don't honestly don't think Abare Killer should be considered as the show's sixth ranger especially since by the time he did turn good and joined the team, while a very awesome moment in of itself, it's way too damn late. At best, I find him to be more of an extra ranger on par with Wolzard Fire, Rio, and Mele than anything else. Plus, there are other characters in Sentai I find to be more of a sixth ranger than him like Black Knight Hyuuga from Gingaman and GekiViolet as well as GekiChopper from, well, Gekiranger. At least his Power Rangers counterpart is a more straight forward sixth ranger and that Dino Thunder even went the extra mile when they clearly didn't even have to by having the villains create an evil clone of said ranger and not have him be a one-and-done antagonist for the rangers to fight against which is a very good way to still utilize plenty of action footage of Abare Killer still being very much a villain while the DT White Ranger managed to turn good and being able to redeem himself. This, in turn, have the season be able to kill birds with one stone. Personally, I think this is one of several cases where Power Rangers was able to one-up Super Sentai.

Alright, I'm trying to phrase this vaguely enough that hopefully it won't pick an actual fight with anyone:

I would like for Mei to become the new Espada, but certain parts of this fandom have been so obnoxious about that possibility (both for and against it) that I'm dreading how they'll react if it actually comes true.

Yeah, just as much as sentai has.

Can't say I've seen them. Any time I try to watch it it just reminds me of some of the worst 4kids dubs

I like the simplicity of it. It's just the Zero One suit, but the extra red and silver add these nice little pops of extra color that make them stand out more. Compared to how busy some of the show's later suits got it stands out by how straightforward it is.

I don't think there's actually a single new color Zero-Two adds? The red and silver were already accents on Rising Hopper. The increased prominence of the red is likely because it's considered a heroic color, and the huge influx of silver allows for a layered look to the armor, giving the impression it's tougher without making the suit any bulkier and ruining the streamlined aesthetic.

I think Zero-Two is every bit as considered and smart a design as Rising Hopper itself was, personally, but of course, this is a thread for unpopular opinions, so I won't tell you you're wrong to not like it. I mean, Flaming Tiger might actually be my favorite Zero-One suit over both of them, so what do I know, right? :lol

'eeey, Hybrid Rise bros.
I like Freezing Bear.

Also I guess I never noticed silver on rising, and the red was more part of the basesuit aside from the eyes.

I mean hey, if we're going for those; I seem to be the only Flying Falcon fan and I actually like it a little more than Rising Hopper!

(both of those and 02 are top 5 designs for the series though)

Wizard is the better version of Fourze.

I wish Zero-One had another insect form apart from the base grasshopper.

But we got Lightning Hornet which is among my favorites. Wish we got to see it more. It feels like it fit Yua's fighting style very well.

Agreed! I usually prefer speed types but I have to make an exception here due to how much I love the symmetrical design.

Which gives me an unpopular opinion: Lightning Hornet is the only final form that Valkyrie actually needed.

Lightning Collection's base sculpt is okay at best. It's a vast improvement over Legacy and anything else BoA done of course (if anyone's still talking about that), but I still find it way too bulky for the body type Sentai rangers usually have. It works well for larger characters like Black Knight but otherwise it always feels off in some way, not helped by the lack of articulation and expression

Agreed. I'd like to see figures proportioned more like the standard line of Dino Fury/Beast Morphers action figures, but with the LC's greater attention to detail.

I think it works perfectly for a ranger with some kind of chest piece. I'm looking at my DT White, and I'm just glad he's not a He-Man figure with a tiny white vest :lol

As for default rangers, I feel it's fine enough. It's not perfect, but I think it's a good enough representation of what's on screen

Seeing as how Elemental Dragon outright replaces Primitive Dragon, I hate this recent trends of Riders having "two-part forms". Shining Assault Hopper replaced Shining Hopper and Shining was more beautiful than Shining Assault due to its simplicity, and the same goes to Primitive and Elemental.

While I appreciate for the idea behind Elemental in that Touma helped the kid obtaining a friend, Elemental just makes the form look busy and unappealing.

I considered wuxia C-dramas, and some other shows as tokusatsu
 

Here's an unpopular toku opinions. When we think of tokusatsu, we think of Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, Ultraman, Godzilla, Gamera, etc....

But if you look at the definition of tokusatsu. Let me quote Tokupedia's definition:

If you looked at the part I bold and underlined. Tokusatsu can mean that non-superheroes and non-daikaiju films and TV shows can be considered in that genre. For example, Here's Japan's Invisible Man (yes, beside King Kong and Spider-man. Japan also did their own take on the Invisible Man):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib5m4P1SKwk

That film is 1949, and 1957 and you can buy it on blu-ray from Arrow Films. But I want to get more in-depth in the definition of tokusatsu since majority of toku fans don't think hard enough on the definition.

The 1975 Hong Kong film, Super Inframan from Shaw Bros would be considered as a tokusatsu because the hero in that film was heavily influenced by Kamen Rider:

https://images.amcnetworks.com/ifcce...raman_1280.png

http://blueprintreview.co.uk/wp-cont...x-1200x520.jpg

Same can be said about Mighty Peking Man, also from Shaw Bros:

https://horrorcultfilms.b-cdn.net/wp...pekingman3.jpg

And this is where the definition of tokusatsu get very interesting for non-Japanese stuff. If you were to say these shows from Toei are considered as tokusatsu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbRmcviwRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM4tSRUMShg

Then should the same rule applied to these wuxia drama, one from Hong Kong, and another from Taiwan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK5A0D6o54A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYjYrl-ARW0

I say this because the 2 Toei samurai shows are labeled as tokusatsu, but the 2 wuxia show used similar special effect and specialized martial arts found in lots of tokusatsu shows and just like in Toei's samurai shows. BTW, the Hong Kong one is called Zu Mountain Saga (sadly no English sub available). I don't know the name of the Taiwanese wuxia since I can't find the English name/title. So would you considered the Taiwanese show, and Zu Mountain Saga as tokusatsu? It seem to match the definition of tokusatsu.

What about this, another Taiwanese shows from 1990 (again, I don't know the English name of this show), would you considered this as tokusatsu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqk3c6Xszcs

It has costumed monster, stylized martial art fighting, and probably campy stuff found in tokusatsu shows in Japan. So is it tokusatsu? the Taiwanese shows fit the definition.

The reason I'm making this opinion because I remember reading a drama fan blogger's blog about certain K-dramas and wuxia C-dramas should be given tokusatsu labels, you can read it here:

Should Fans Also Consider Wuxia Series and Sci-Fi Series as Tokusatsu?

Mind Hurts: Why Do I Even Call Certain Fantasy-Based K-Drama And C-Drama As Toku?!

Having watched tokusatsu, wuxia C-dramas, and K-dramas (including one that is sci-fi and fantasy) for a long time. I would agree with the blogger that wuxia C-dramas and some certain K-dramas would be put under tokusatsu label because they not only fit the definition of tokusatsu. Wuxia show whether they're from Taiwan, Hong Kong, or Mainland China if they're using stylized martial arts and costumed monsters (or CG monster design), then it's no different from Super Sentai or Kamen Rider or GARO.

So that is my unpopular tokusatsu opinion, what is tokusatsu, and what fits the definition of tokusatsu.

I'm surprised that tokusatsu fandom communities has not brought up this debate and using non-Japanese shows as evidence to debate what and how to define tokusatsu.

I watch Wuxia. I think Wuxia is what got me into Toku in the first place. So yeah I'd agree with the statement that they are one in the same.

That's what happened to me too. Before tokusatsu, I started out in watching wuxia shows from Hong Kong's TVB as a kid (well, they were dubbed in Vietnamese, and there were no English subtitles for these dramas back then), and I was able to transition to tokusatsu, and K-dramas because of that.

How odd that you and I started out as wuxia watcher and we became toku fans many years later (well, I became a K-drama fan too). But it's strange that toku fans don't branch out/crossover to wuxia dramas given the facts that wuxia shows are gaining more US audiences thanks to streaming like Netflix, and Amazon Prime Video.

Hoo boy does this remind me of the whole 'animes are cartoons' debate (which they totally are).

I found Ultraman Orb episode 1 to be the worst Ultraman starter out of the 6 I've seen, and has left me with no desire to watch the rest of the series.

I mean I'm going to evantually, but it's not because it (or Orb/Juggler in the Geed movie) left a particularly good impression on me.