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Matrixbeast 12-04-2012 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coturos (Post 74945)
do none of u remember that u need a special rider ticket to travel back in time? they cant just go anywhere
Technically, they don't need the ticket to travel back in time.
HOWEVER, they do need the Owner's permission to do so without a ticket.

KRX 12-04-2012 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coturos (Post 74945)
do none of u remember that u need a special rider ticket to travel back in time? they cant just go anywhere
If you want to go by train. However, Kabuto's Hyper Clock Up allows for him to travel through time.

Barricade64 12-04-2012 08:25 PM
Going with Kabuto. Aside from Clock Up Tendou is an excellent fighter (not to say that the Imagin aren't) and keeps his cool most of the time. The Imagin's emotions and tendency to infight could easily give Kabuto an advantage.

Starscreamer 12-04-2012 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRX (Post 74940)
Dear Santa,

Hi, it's me- that one Muslim who you've ignored since birth because, well, I'm Muslim. I know that because of that I don't celebrate Christmas, so you won't comply to my demands, but please, PLEASE, make Toei film this battle!

--KRX

P.S. Make sure that Kabuto wins. Because that would be accurate. It doesn't matter how big of a train you have, if you're to busy bickering over one another for Tendou-incited reasons, you shall be defeated.

I need to buy you a be---wait...no...a ROOT beer good sir! lol

Den-O 12-04-2012 08:46 PM
Onore!!

I'm not sure that I could argue a Den-O victory. But damn it I'll try. I knew this was gonna be a tough one. Kabuto has obvious skill and power thanks to clock up/hyper. The Perfect Zecter is a powerhouse of a weapon with as much versatility as Den-O's various forms.

However, I would also argue that adequate counters to clock up would be Wing and Gun Forms increased speed and agility. As a matter of fact the crazy unpredictability of Gun Form would make it hard to really do much with Clock Up. Maybe it's not on par with Clock Up but it's enough to help counter it. Now there isn't an adequate counter to Hyper Clock up but I also feel that the combined intelligence of the Imagin and Ryutaro could come up with a plan. As was stated previously theres the potential to use Den-Liner and appear during the battle before Kabuto can use Hyper Zecter and neutralize it. If Den-O could get to that point then this would be a toe to toe battle. And blow for blow, punch for punch, Den-O is a stronger and more versatile rider. Despite Tendous skill, this chain of events leads me to believe that Tendou would lose.

I can also see where Kabuto victory comes from per the abilities of Hyper and Perfect Zecter. But I think that the collective abilities and strategy of Ryutaro and the Imagin, and the advantage of the Den-Liner (and it's various abilities as well) would ensure a victory with a climax :)

Uppercaseccc 12-04-2012 08:56 PM
Kabuto would easily win because as we know from Decade Den-o powers don't work in Kabuto land. But Decade jokes aside Kabuto is just a better fighter Tendo knows how to manipulate weakness of anyone also clock up would give Den-o no real chance to counter attack angering Momo allowing Tendo to go for the killing blow. Ya Kabuto wins

KRX 12-04-2012 08:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscreamer (Post 75002)
I need to buy you a be---wait...no...a ROOT beer good sir! lol
Aww, you remembered.

Sentai 12-04-2012 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 75006)
Onore!!

I'm not sure that I could argue a Den-O victory. But damn it I'll try. I knew this was gonna be a tough one. Kabuto has obvious skill and power thanks to clock up/hyper. The Perfect Zecter is a powerhouse of a weapon with as much versatility as Den-O's various forms.

However, I would also argue that adequate counters to clock up would be Wing and Gun Forms increased speed and agility. As a matter of fact the crazy unpredictability of Gun Form would make it hard to really do much with Clock Up. Maybe it's not on par with Clock Up but it's enough to help counter it. Now there isn't an adequate counter to Hyper Clock up but I also feel that the combined intelligence of the Imagin and Ryutaro could come up with a plan. As was stated previously theres the potential to use Den-Liner and appear during the battle before Kabuto can use Hyper Zecter and neutralize it. If Den-O could get to that point then this would be a toe to toe battle. And blow for blow, punch for punch, Den-O is a stronger and more versatile rider. Despite Tendous skill, this chain of events leads me to believe that Tendou would lose.

I can also see where Kabuto victory comes from per the abilities of Hyper and Perfect Zecter. But I think that the collective abilities and strategy of Ryutaro and the Imagin, and the advantage of the Den-Liner (and it's various abilities as well) would ensure a victory with a climax :)
What's your opinion on something myself and lot of other have brought up in the fight: Namely Tendou's SuperHuman Trolling Powers being used to annoy all of the Imagin, especially Momo? And how would that affect your veiw of the battle?

Den-O 12-04-2012 10:51 PM
I admit Tendou would piss off every damn Imagin he meets. But I can't see it really detracting from the Taros abilities. They'd pull it together, they aren't nearly as petty and argumentative as most people label them.

guncannon109 12-04-2012 10:53 PM
Final match OOO vs Kabuto!

Sentai 12-04-2012 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 75048)
I admit Tendou would piss off every damn Imagin he meets. But I can't see it really detracting from the Taros abilities. They'd pull it together, they aren't nearly as petty and argumentative as most people label them.
Tendou pissing every single one of them off is the sole reason this fight needs to really happens. That's a good hour of solid entertainment right there.

Edit: The Hyper Zector bothers me. I like Kabuto, I hope he wins this, but sounds like classic OP Power Gaming. The fact it always exists and long as it existed anywhere in time Tendou can call on it, even if the one he's holding is destroyed. Just.. way to overpowered.

KamenRiderOOO 12-05-2012 01:23 PM
Rider Of The Year Tournament- Final Match
 
It Has Been Decided-


The Final Battle!


VS

Kamen Rider Kabuto


OOO
  • Has 137 combos (125 random, 5 main, 1 midseason upgrade, 1 Super Mode (PuToTyra), 1 Eleventh Hour Superpower (Super TaToBa), 2 special (TaMaShii and BuraKaWani), 2 alternative {with Kangaroo Medal}) possible due to mix-and-matching core medals
  • Can revive any Rider turned into a core medal via Scanning charge.
  • RideVendor, which comes in multiples; ToRideVendor can absorb excess energy from RaToraTah combo and allow him to function properly. It also gives OOO access to various Candroids.
  • Tatoba Combo is the main combination that is always used by Kamen Rider OOO using the Taka, Tora & Batta Core Medals. As Tatoba Combo, OOO is armed with the Tora Claw gauntlets, and can transform his legs into Batta Legs to reach enemies that are out of his reach, such as ones that can fly. This combo is also the most balanced in speed and power. He can execute a Rider Kick called the Tatoba Kick, where after jumping high up through the Batta Legs, he descends with a drop kick through the three rings that form, which are in the primary colors of the Taka, Tora, and Batta Medals which surround him in auras depending on the Core Medals. After passing through the red ring representing the Taka Medal, he is surrounded in a red veil with wings, the yellow ring representing the Tora Medal gives an aura with claws, while the green ring representing the Batta Medal gives an aura with legs. Like the True Tatoba Combo, the plain Tatoba also can dual-wield the Medajalibur and the Medagabryu, as seen in The Shogun and 21 Core Medals.
  • Gatakiriba Combo is Kamen Rider OOO's green combination, using the Kuwagata, Kamakiri and Batta Medals. As Gatakiriba Combo, OOO can create massive numbers of duplicates of himself known as the Branch Shade, shoot lightning from its horns, use the Kamakiri Swords, and jump high up with the Batta Legs. This Combo's Scanning Charge finisher is the Gatakiriba Kick, where after splitting into several duplicates, OOO jumps into the air and performs a series of flying sidekicks on the target. OOO can use the Gatakiriba Combo's Branch Shade ability to duplicate himself, then all but the original switched their medals to make the OOO Combo Clones.
  • Latorartar Combo is a pure yellow form attained by using the Lion, Tora and Cheetah Medals. As Latorartar Combo, OOO can emit an infrared light called the Liodias, which is intense enough to incinerate, use the Tora Claws, and run at high speeds. The Cheetah Legs also enable Latorartar Combo to perform the Revol Spin Kick. This Combo's Scanning Charge finisher is the Gush Cross, which projects three yellow rings in front of OOO before charging through them with the Cheetah Medal's speed before delievering a cross slash on the target with the Tora Claws infused with the Lion Medal's energy projection.
  • The Sagohzo Combo is a pure grey form when the Sai, Gorilla, and Zou Medals are used. As the Sagohzo Combo, OOO gains superhuman strength and gravity manipulation as well the ability to perform strong headbutts through the Sai Head, able to perform the Bagoon Pressure attack by firing the Gori Bagoon gauntlets from his arms and also create powerful shockwaves by banging his chest through the Gorilla Arms, and cause minor earthquakes with the Zou Legs, including a powerful drop attack called the Zou Stomp. This Combo's Scanning Charge finisher is Sagohzo Impact, where OOO manipulates gravity to lift him into the air and weights himself down to hit the ground with a powerful stomp, trapping a Yummy in the ground that forms around it while the reformed ground moves toward OOO where he delivers a powerful double handed punch and headbutt at the same time. The damaged ground reforms after the Scanning Charge.
  • Tajadol Combo is Kamen Rider OOO's red combination, using the powers of the Taka, Kujaku and Condor Medals. In this form, the Taka Head becomes the Taka Head Brave, with the eyes becoming red rather than the usual green, wings protrude from the Taka Head, and the hawk head symbol on the forehead becomes more prominant. As Tajadol Combo, Kamen Rider OOO can see far distances, create energy peacock tail feathers to direct at opponents, use the Kujaku Wings to fly, project core medal like energy at it's opponents, shoot streams of fire and use the talon-like attachments of the Condor Legs called the Raptor Edges. This form is armed with the Taja Spinner that can fire orbs of energy at it's opponent. It can also hold a number of Core Medals, enabling him to perform the Giga Scan attack. Tajadol is shown to have an increase in power, speed, and defense, making it the most superior out of the other combos. This Combo's Scanning Charge finisher is the Prominence Drop, where after sprouting wings from the Kujaku Arms, Kamen Rider OOO flies into the air and performs a flying drop kick, with the talons on the Condol Legs splitting apart, on the target.
  • Shauta Combo, is Kamen Rider OOO's blue combination, using the powers of the Shachi, Unagi & Tako Medals. As Shauta Combo, Kamen Rider OOO excels in underwater combat, and gains the ability to liquefy his body. It is armed with the Denki Unagi Whips which enable electrically charged attacks, the most powerful being the Voltarm Whip. The Tako Legs allow Shauta Combo to climb walls with their suction cup-like abilities and can split apart for a barrage of hits. This Combo's Scanning Charge is the Octo Banish Rider Kick where OOO liquefies his lower body to propel himself upward, then use the Unagi Whips to drag the opponent upward while OOO goes back down using the Octo Legs to form a drill to burst through the opponent.
  • The Burakawani Combo is Kamen Rider OOO's orange and reptilian Combo. It's Core Medals are the Cobra, Kame and Wani. Burakawani Combo's body is covered in a substance called Soma Venom, which makes him able to heal instantly after taking any attack. As the Burakawani Combo, Kamen Rider OOO's eyesight is doubled and gains infra-red vision, use the tutle shell-like Goura Guardner, and use the Saw Deadscythers on his legs to generate an energy crocodile, which chomps his enemies with every kick. In addition, he is armed with the Burangi, which lets him summon a giant cobra from the "ponytail" on the back of his head to attack enemies. This Combo's Scanning Charge is the Warning Ride Rider Kick, where Kamen Rider OOO projects three orange rings in front of him before dashing through them in a foot-first slide before unleashing a powerful kick with the Saw Deadscythers, which generate a giant energy crocodile head to bite through the target.
  • Most Powerful Form: PuToTyra (TV series), Super TaToBa (MegaMax)
  • The Putotyra Combo is Kamen Rider OOO's purple combination. As a result of the purple Medals residing in his body, Eiji is undergoing a process known as "Greeedification", gradually turning him into a Greeed the longer the Medals are inside him. The Putotyra Combo has a power that is capable of destroying or damaging Core Medals. After Eiji gains two more Purple Medals, he can access this form in the usual way or can transform straight into Putotyra while in Greeed form. Putotyra's flight speed is faster than Tajadol, has greater jumping height, and its punching and kicking powers are stronger than the other Combos. This Combo consists of the Dinosaur Core Medals: the Ptera, Torikera, and Tyranno Medals. As Putotyra Combo, Kamen Rider OOO uses wings on the Ptera Head, called External Fins, to fly, as well as to freeze the opponent with a blast of icy air; the horns on the Torikera Shoulders, called the Wind Stinger, which can stretch into various lengths according to Eiji's command; and the Tyranno Legs' thigh armor can combine to form a tail, called the Tail Divider, that can give off a devastating blow. This Combo's Scanning Charge finisher is the Blasting Freezer. When activated, OOO uses his Torikera Shoulders' Wind Stingers to stab his opponents in the shoulders to hold them in place, while he uses his Ptera Head's External Fins to freeze them immediately after, and the Tyranno Leg's Tail Divider to finish them off by smashing them into frozen shards.
  • Super Tatoba Combo has the Super Taka Head, similar to the Taka Head Brave while in the Tajadol Combo, the longer and sharper Super Tora Solid tri-claws, and the spiked Super Batta Legs. Because the Medals powering this Combo are displaced in time, OOO can stop time to gain the upper hand on his enemies. This Combo's Scanning Charge finisher is a Rider Kick called the Super Tatoba Kick which is a more powerful version of the Tatoba Kick.

Kabuto:
  • When first transforming, Zecter can defend Kabuto, Masked form armor can be ejected and cause damage
  • Can Clock Up- allowing him to move faster than the eye can see
  • The Kabuto Kunai Gun is Kabuto's personal sidearm that has three modes to use the weapon in various forms- Gun Mode, the default mode, fires high-intensity ion beam blasts and is equipped with tri-laser targeting called DAT Sight. Its finishing attack is an ionic energy blast called the Avalanche Shoot. Ax Mode becomes active when the gun barrel is held, and is wielded by using the bladed butt of the weapon like a tomahawk. Its finishing attack is the Avalanche Break. Kunai Mode activates when the gun barrel is detached, unsheathing a short-dagger weapon good for its swift and easy handling; this is favored most when Kabuto switches to Rider Form. This mode's finishing attack is the Avalanche Slash.
  • Kabuto is the only Rider in Kabuto that can achieve Hyper Form, an even stronger version of Rider Form. Accessed through the Hyper Zecter, a futuristic Zecter made by ZECT and predestined to be used by Tendou, it initiates the Hyper Cast Off command, unleashing its full power. It also has access to Hyper Clock Up, a version of Clock Up, able to even time travel due to its faster-than-light speed properties. He is also equipped with a jetpack-like device on his back, allowing Kabuto flight capabilities, though usually it's only used to gain height for the Hyper Kick.
  • The Perfect Zecter is Hyper Kabuto's signature weapon. This sword-like Zecter has two modes: Sword Mode and Gun Mode. The Drake, TheBee and Sasword Zecters can be summoned by it and attach onto the weapon, either individually or all at once. Also, depending on the Zecter that is currently attached, the Perfect Zecter is capable of utilizing a hyper version of the Zecter's finishing attack in either Gun or Sword Mode. Once a Zecter color is selected at the cross guard, the trigger is pulled to initiate the attack. By attaching all three Zecters, the "All Zecter Combine" command is activated, allowing the Maximum Hyper finisher. When Zecters attach onto the Perfect Zecter, they switch into Perfect Mode which is denoted by the color change and position change.
  • Kabuto Extender is his Rider Machine, able to switch from the fast Masked Mode to the offensive-oriented Ex Mode

The Final Battle Commences! It Closes Tomorrow! Following It Will Be a Redemption Match Between The Riders Who Lost In A Free-For-All Match For 3rd!

ZeoRangerV 12-05-2012 01:25 PM
Aw, no third place playoff?

Sentai 12-05-2012 01:29 PM
The best part of this fight, much like him vs the Imagin, is Tendou trolling Ankh. That being said OOO wins. Kabuto has fighting prowess and super speed? OOO has fighting prowess and super speed. Also strength, flight, raw power. Kabuto has a very nice trick. OOO just has alot more, and the ability to mix and match them. Kabuto is just pure outclassed.

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 01:30 PM
You know, you could've made this last a week or so longer by setting up a losers bracket between Super-1, Kiva, Den-O, Agito, Kuuga, and Decade for 3rd and 4th place x3

That said, I'm gonna have to think about this one...

Kamen Rider Meteor 12-05-2012 01:34 PM
The guy I have a tattoo of vs the guy that beat my 2nd favorite Rider. You do the math

AkibaSilver 12-05-2012 01:34 PM
OOO versus Kabuto. This is so awesome. But still, lets go through this. Kabuto normal. He's about as powerful as OOO TaToBa, so that won't count. Kunai gun? Meet the medaljaliber/any weapon of OOO. Gun mode could be a problem, but I think OOO could dodge those. Clock Up is usually an insta-win for Kabuto, but this time, OOO has something to deal with it - Super TaToBa. Before anyone complains, it's listed in the info, so it counts. Kabuto may be thrown off by this, so it could effect his fighting style, but discard that. OOO has a chance to Rider Kick him now, but let's say Kabuto escapes and goes to Hyper Kabuto. OOO stays as Super TaToBa, and the fight is long. In my opinion, this battle will go on, until both are tired out. OOO then switches to PuToTyranno. Kabuto, exhausted, is dead. OOO reigns supreme. That's my vote. I challenge Kabuto fans to beat this...

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 01:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 75197)
The best part of this fight, much like him vs the Imagin, is Tendou trolling Ankh. That being said OOO wins. Kabuto has fighting prowess and super speed? OOO has fighting prowess and super speed. Also strength, flight, raw power. Kabuto has a very nice trick. OOO just has alot more, and the ability to mix and match them. Kabuto is just pure outclassed.
Actually, no. It's made clear that OOO's best abilities come from the combos, including his flight and power. He could use Gorilla arms and Cheetah legs all he likes. A super speed punch means nothing with no real force behind it.
The difference between Kabuto's speed and OOO's speed is that OOO runs fast. Kabuto moves faster.

ryan 12-05-2012 01:35 PM
I think for all the same reasons Kabuto would defeat Den-O he could handle OOOs. I just don't see him being outclassed despited OOO great flexibility.

ZeoRangerV 12-05-2012 01:38 PM
A question to Kabuto fans (since I haven't watched it myself) or any science inclined people (hey KRX :lol): If Hyper Clock Up means he can time travel, would that mean Hyper Kabuto effectively moves outside of time itself? If that's the case, would that mean Super Tatoba's ability to stop time would have no effect?

Den-O 12-05-2012 01:38 PM
OOO has this one in the bag. Much like I argued when Den-O faced Kabuto, the Hyper Zecter does not equal victory. OOO has far more raw power than Kabuto does, more versatility as well. It would be a great close match but I think OOO pulls this one out.

Sentai 12-05-2012 01:39 PM
Anyone else think OOO rigged this so OOO would win :lol We're on to you!

Kamen Rider Meteor 12-05-2012 01:40 PM
If Kabuto wins this thing, I will wage a war against him with more fury then matrix has towards Gokaiger and Decade combined , mixed with Sentai's hate for Akibaranger!

Sentai 12-05-2012 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Meteor (Post 75209)
If Kabuto wins this thing, I will wage a war against him with more fury then matrix has towards Gokaiger and Decade combined , mixed with Sentai's hate for Akibaranger!
Let's not go straight to the nuclear options :lol

Den-O 12-05-2012 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeoRangerV (Post 75205)
A question to Kabuto fans (since I haven't watched it myself) or any science inclined people (hey KRX :lol): If Hyper Clock Up means he can time travel, would that mean Hyper Kabuto effectively moves outside of time itself? If that's the case, would that mean Super Tatoba's ability to stop time would have no effect?
I've never looked at Hyper that way. When he goes into Hyper Clock up time stops. He only travels through time once. In God Sped Love he uses time travel to send the meteor that would have destroyed future Earth, to the past. Resulting in the events of the TV show. The Zecter itself can traverse time but as far as I know he doesn't have free control over time travel. Though when Caucasus had the Hyper Zecter he did appear to have more of a mastery over it.

Kamen Rider Meteor 12-05-2012 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 75210)
Let's not go straight to the nuclear options :lol
Hey! I need something to hate . I like everything that everybody hates on this board. This Kabuto fella is starting to rub me the wrong way...

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 01:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Meteor (Post 75209)
If Kabuto wins this thing, I will wage a war against him with more fury then matrix has towards Gokaiger and Decade combined , mixed with Sentai's hate for Akibaranger!
I don't think you can handle that much hate.

Anyway, I'm voting for Kabuto because of 3 words.
HYPER.
CLOCK.
UP.

I know everyone is saying that it's not an instant win, but I think too many are completely writing it out. He's moving so fast that Clock Up'd characters seem stationary. This advantage is just way too great to ignore.

Switchblade 12-05-2012 01:48 PM
Ah, I've been waiting for this. I was totally ready to write this one off for OOO - he has a very wide range of powers and combos that massively dwarf Kabuto, who is, after all, pretty much just a martial artist who occasionally pulls out a gun. This should be a total curbstomp, especially with Super TaToBa being able to stop time and completely cancel out Clock Up/Hyper Clock Up.

And then Starscreamer said this in the OOo/Kuuga thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starscreamer (Post 74675)
my biggest issue with OOO winning matches is that all you have to do is intercept the coins as they are being thrown, or knock that blasted book out of his hand (or shoot if your Rider has a gun form). With the exception of the 3 he carries and if the has the purple coins inside of him, all the other forms can just be intercepted. Kuuga changes as needed, and yes has the forms to counter/evade/obliterate. OOO has power, and versitality, but in the end a quick shot and he is stuck in base form.
Matrixbeast countered that transformation is a free action and, honestly, in that fight he was right. But then I thought about who OOO would almost certainly be fighting in the finals. And that made me pause.

You see, the thing with all the Riders since Kiva is that they've had to swap around items in their belts. In most of their cases they just pull something out of hammer space and jam it in, but OOO was always shown grabbing the medals (usually from a conveniently located variation on Ryosuke Miura) and then putting them in the belt. Of all the recent Riders this always had the most lag time. Granted, this was usually only a few seconds, but it takes noticeably longer than it does for Kabuto to smack his hip. And, as one of the last fully self-contained Riders, that's all he needs to do to activate Clock Up.

So basically I see the fight going like this (and please excuse the bad color, I was too lazy to grab my good lamp and all but the first shot came out badly tinted):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0108.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0109.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0112.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...DSCN0109-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0111.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0115.jpg

Yeah, that's kind of cheap and dirty, but anyone who's watched Kabuto tell me that that's not exactly how Tendou would play this fight. :p

OOO may have the far greater advantage in terms of, well, everything, but if Kabuto is able to steal his medals (and I'm assuming Eiji is carrying them for a change - if Miura is off to the side tossing them in this gets even more unfair) then he's just stuck with TaToBa form (this fight is apparently post-MegaMax, so the PuToTyra medals are no longer inside Eiji). TaToBa OOO vs. Kabuto, possibly with the Hyper Zecter? Yeah, I'm calling that one for Kabuto.

tl;dr: Kabuto trolls his way to victory. :lol

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Switchblade (Post 75219)
Ah, I've been waiting for this. I was totally ready to write this one off for OOO - he has a very wide range of powers and combos that massively dwarf Kabuto, who is, after all, pretty much just a martial artist who occasionally pulls out a gun. This should be a total curbstomp, especially with Super TaToBa being able to stop time and completely cancel out Clock Up/Hyper Clock Up.

And then Starscreamer said this in the OOo/Kuuga thread:


Matrixbeast countered that transformation is a free action and, honestly, in that fight he was right. But then I thought about who OOO would almost certainly be fighting in the finals. And that made me pause.

You see, the thing with all the Riders since Kiva is that they've had to swap around items in their belts. In most of their cases they just pull something out of hammer space and jam it in, but OOO was always shown grabbing the medals (usually from a conveniently located variation on Ryosuke Miura) and then putting them in the belt. Of all the recent Riders this always had the most lag time. Granted, this was usually only a few seconds, but it takes noticeably longer than it does for Kabuto to smack his hip. And, as one of the last fully self-contained Riders, that's all he needs to do to activate Clock Up.

So basically I see the fight going like this (and please excuse the bad color, I was too lazy to grab my good lamp and all but the first shot came out badly tinted):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0108.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0109.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0112.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...DSCN0109-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0111.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/DSCN0115.jpg

Yeah, that's kind of cheap and dirty, but anyone who's watched Kabuto tell me that that's not exactly how Tendou would play this fight. :p

OOO may have the far greater advantage in terms of, well, everything, but if Kabuto is able to steal his medals (and I'm assuming Eiji is carrying them for a change - if Miura is off to the side tossing them in this gets even more unfair) then he's just stuck with TaToBa form (this fight is apparently post-MegaMax, so the PuToTyra medals are no longer inside Eiji). TaToBa OOO vs. Kabuto, possibly with the Hyper Zecter? Yeah, I'm calling that one for Kabuto.

tl;dr: Kabuto trolls his way to victory. :lol
I was actually thinking that was a possibility, but I didn't bring it up because I was the one who stated Transformations were free actions, and I didn't want to seem like a hypocrite.
But Eiji's lag time for medal swapping does hit ridiculous levels.
(Also, nice little comic :lol)

KamenRiderOOO 12-05-2012 01:56 PM
Everybody does know that every rider doesn't start in their base form whenever they fight, right? This is one of the reasons why I was hoping the final match would've been OOO vs Den-O. I was gonna have multiple form-locked matches and the accumulated score would determine the winner

MidoGreen 12-05-2012 01:58 PM
OOO wins easily. Two words: Super TaToBa. Clock Up and Hyper Clock Up will be useless against it and without Clocking Up, the Kabuto is a rather vanilla Rider with some neat weapons. Also, pretty sure Eiji would be immune to Tendou trolling :lol.

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 75212)
I've never looked at Hyper that way. When he goes into Hyper Clock up time stops. He only travels through time once. In God Sped Love he uses time travel to send the meteor that would have destroyed future Earth, to the past. Resulting in the events of the TV show. The Zecter itself can traverse time but as far as I know he doesn't have free control over time travel. Though when Caucasus had the Hyper Zecter he did appear to have more of a mastery over it.
Actually, during it's first use in the series he uses it to travel back in time to prevent Gatack's death.

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MidoGreen (Post 75227)
OOO wins easily. Two words: Super TaToBa. Clock Up and Hyper Clock Up will be useless against it and without Clocking Up, the Kabuto is a rather vanilla Rider with some neat weapons. Also, pretty sure Eiji would be immune to Tendou trolling :lol.
Actually, he would have access to the Hyper Zector, basically giving him Drake, Sasword, and TheBee's weapons too.

ryan 12-05-2012 02:00 PM
Heh heh, awesome comic.

I love OOO, it's a great show, but the way they constantly dragged out the medal switching kinda annoyed me. It definitely felt like it was NOT as free action in the show. Just nobody ever took advantage of it.

AkibaSilver 12-05-2012 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 75230)
Actually, he would have access to the Hyper Zector, basically giving him Drake, Sasword, and TheBee's weapons too.
And OOO couldn't beat those?

ZeoRangerV 12-05-2012 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan (Post 75231)
I love OOO, it's a great show, but the way they constantly dragged out the medal switching kinda annoyed me. It definitely felt like it was NOT as free action in the show. Just nobody ever took advantage of it.
To be fair, there were enough medals repeatedly swapping parties in the show as it was. They didn't need to add to it any more :lol

Matrixbeast 12-05-2012 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver (Post 75232)
And OOO couldn't beat those?
No, it's a counter to the statement that Kabuto would be completely vanilla.

MidoGreen 12-05-2012 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 75230)
Actually, he would have access to the Hyper Zector, basically giving him Drake, Sasword, and TheBee's weapons too.
I filed them under neat weapons, because that's all they are to him.

Switchblade 12-05-2012 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 75226)
Everybody does know that every rider doesn't start in their base form whenever they fight, right? This is one of the reasons why I was hoping the final match would've been OOO vs Den-O. I was gonna have multiple form-locked matches and the accumulated score would determine the winner
In the absence of any instructions saying otherwise, I operate under the assumption that Eiji starts in TaToBa form like he does 95% of the time.

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Originally Posted by ryan (Post 75231)
Heh heh, awesome comic.

I love OOO, it's a great show, but the way they constantly dragged out the medal switching kinda annoyed me. It definitely felt like it was NOT as free action in the show. Just nobody ever took advantage of it.
1. Thanks.

B. I actually remember there being occasions where Ankh tossed Medals and somebody found a way to intercept them. That's part of what led me to change my mind and side with Kabuto.

And yeah, I know no one is probably tossing the Medals at Eiji and he's drawing them himself, but OOO is the one recent Rider series that didn't just pull the transformation trinkets out of hammerspace and, for me, that qualifies as a huge weakness when he's up against a guy with super speed and no compunctions about fighting dirty.

ryan 12-05-2012 02:11 PM
Yeah, didn't Kazari or Uva swipe some out of the air shortly after Eiji stole a core medal from him? I think Kabuto could totally Clock Up and swipe medals while Eiji's trying to transform, and then beat the crap out of him.


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