I think Kabuto is the one series to give us a whole arc dedicated to teasing the Final Form being obtained. (I don’t count Kuuga and Zi-O, since their whole shows are dedicated to getting stronger anyway). Other than that, I don’t have much to say about the ending. I can say that the video game has a bonus level where you fight Hyper Kabuto with regular Kabuto.

Anyway, next time will be a lot more interesting for me to talk about.

I don't know if I should do this, but yeah... I want to post this screenshot though... even the subtitle was reversed!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...22/reverse.png

Yeah as usual, Kabuto's main draw is the visuals, with Kabuto being a popcorn spectacle that is made to look cool.

Kagami at the beginning wants to make peace between ZECT and Neo ZECT, but Kagami participated without question, only that he had to be tied in with the title character, by that they know, they have to fight against the system. Probably he's firmly on ZECT side but he wants for ZECT not to overpunish those that are against him. Although Yamato seems to exhibit a display of honor here, he's a full-blown villain though. And the one that is not a bad guy among the 3 Riders who use Kabutech is Oda a.k.a Kamen Rider Hercus. Yamato is a zealot for ZECT, and his final words are his alleigance to it while he burns like Ultraman Taro using Ultra Dynamite, and if not for Kagami here, he believes that anyone who betrayed ZECT must be destroyed.

Hiyori died due to an exposure of the meteor dust btw. Probably the intelligence part is in this movie, where as pointed out, Tendou is manipulative here and plays both ZECT and Neo ZECT like a fiddle; Tendou manipulates the Riders into fighting, Kagami into giving him intel on the space station, Neo-ZECT into trusting him, and then betrayed almost everyone.

This movie is a prequel to the TV series where time travel is used to improve things where if in this movie, the meteor impact is enormous and dried the ocean, then Hyper Kabuto time travelling to the past to crash the present meteor into the first meteor, foiling Mishima's plan and minimizing the impact of the first meteor, into only damaging Shibuya and creates the birth of the Kabuto timeline you enjoy. Daisuke being a freedom fighter makes sense as he proclaims himself to be a wind which blows everywhere freely, so it fits his character to seek for that if, at least in Neo-ZECT's eyes, he's deprived of it. I thought you'd give a leeway on Hiyori smiling here, but actually no. Ironically Hiyori is uncharacteristically more upbeat here, despite the analogy mentioned above where Tokyo Tower got reduced to horrible mess which symbolizes miserable characters with pointless lives. Hiyori still has that personality too in the ending, altered timeline scene however, albeit this explains the source of the angelic entity she draws; it's based on Hyper Kabuto/Tendou, and him disappearing in an altered timeline. There's another likely flaw here too where in main series Hiyori remembers being trapped in a room, not under rubble, and only seeing Tendou from a distance, not knowing who he was. I want to ask though, wdym about Morishita (Megumi) being as close to her character from that show?

This is something about OOC, which I also detest if this happened (I'll give dislikes far more to adaptations, if they do something that far deviates from the original source, with OOC being one of them). but to make it fair, you gave more free pass if the OOC is about an attempt (emphasis on attempt, funny or not depends, like for example just turning anyone to assholes) at giving comedy (rule of funny)? I think for example in the franchise, Missing Ace's characters all turned into varying degrees of jerk (GSL's OOC is bad though, no defense for that). That won't be a fair judgment IMO though.

Pre Den-O movies had a tendency to spoil something from the main series, like previously in Faiz, where Takumi is actually an Orphnoch. In this case for God Speed Love, it spoils that Tendou and Hiyori are sisters. So yeah, Tendou had selective care towards family, like Juka, but as for why Tendou also cares for as much to Hiyori, it's the same as Juka's, Hiyori being Tendou's sister, they bring the best of him. So yeah, Yui Satonaka was actually sick in this film, and it was the beginning of her dwindling on the main series...

Agree with this one. This is a post-apocalyptic planet where water is in short supply and ZECT is apparently the saviors of humanity, there should be a good reason for why there's another organization. It's unclear why Neo-ZECT wants freedom. And with you describing Neo-ZECT as terrorists and anarchists, probably that's the explanation of them wanting freedom; those 2 are the ones that take freedom to the extremes where they want to do anything that they feel like, and what I fear for those bringing up "freedom" (taking it to the extremes to do whatever they please), with the only rant from them being "doesn't like being ordered". It's also unclear where do they suspect ZECT as evil.

Kizukeba I came too far...

Can't talk about this more as the plot for Kabuto recently is to uncover what lies behind ZECT, but in this movie yeah, Riku is also the main antagonist alongside Mishima.

Caucasus, the Golden Rider, parallels Odin yeah as been already said, both are golden Rider, ZECT's most powerful soldier and the biggest threat Tendou and Kagami have to contend with, the obstacle that has to be defeated if you want to win, appears as the final Rider after the other Riders are fighting each other - or when the hero calls/draws him out, something that the hero needs his super form with, blue rose petal to golden feathers, time based power in Hyper Clock Up time travel and Time Vent. So I guess, this is your limits regarding melodrama.

Haven't seen much of the franchise's movies so can't say much. I wouldn't care if the discussion is about something that is a part of my happier times or the opposite though (so yeah, like if others have differing views about the movie, or if I'm still allowed to do this), I think I just jumped if a discussion comes and it's about something I know and followed, whenever liked or disliked, which I can participate.

I don't want to fall back on an old meme, but They're Good Dogs Brent. I honestly like them all? They all bring such different energies that I'm loathe to say any are worse than the others. (Other than, uh, TheWorst.) However! Let me see if I can make this work.

I'd probably put Daisuke at the bottom of the list, despite how much I love his interactions with Gon and Tendou. He just isn't on the show enough to feel as vital as the other Riders (it's really just those three Gon stories?), and he doesn't really have a lot of screentime with the rest of the cast.

Then Tsurugi, since he's an incredibly fun character, just not someone I'm ready to see as more than a supporting character. He's fantastic in small doses, but probably not someone I'm aching to spend an entire episode with. Still, the show's made great strides in connecting him to the main story and theme, so I could probably bump him higher up the list in time.

Then Kagami, because he is a good dog. He is loyal and excitable and has Very Big Feelings, and that is never not fun to watch.

And then tendou, because there's no way to avoid putting the title character at the top of the list if you like a show. He's the core around which everything in the show orbits, which means all success is in some way due to him. I don't think he'd have it any other way!

Neat! I look forward to it!

That was a very cool thing the subbing team did. I don't know if they swiped that from the official Japanese subs, but it's a great gag.

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I did not know that was a thing in the TV series.

I just assumed it was for the movie.

I am going to walk away now.

And this is why you nesd to be careful and double check stuff when talking anout potential spoilers

Wow, poor Kageyama :lol

After how goofy 27 was, I'm really impressed that 28 was able to take that set-up and skew it into something much more dramatic. The Gon stuff continued to be really strong, though, and I am all about the moment at the end where Daisuke puts the beanie back on her.

I liked the extensive use of Masked Forms in the big Rider brawl, too. Those forms are the kind of things that later Rider shows would eventually phase out - like what happened with the Level 1 forms in Ex-Aid - so it's cool to see them still getting extensive use here as we're getting into the show's second half.

The big thing about this episode, though, is that now that we're through 28 that means that we're going into 29 next. Episodes 29 and 30 are some of the most memorable episodes of the entire series. I hope you have a bell pepper and a copy of the Backdraft soundtrack, because the heat will be on!

No, that's about right.

Honestly, I thought it was pretty easy to connect the dots, so Dread didn't say anything wrong. If you believe that the movie was an overwritten timeline, then considering how Tendo and Hiyori were both alive during the Meteor of 99, when the timeline diverges, their sibling relationship isn't a variable like the oceans.

Maybe the inconsistencies between the show and movie regarding how that scene happens are what make people dissociate. Blame time travel.

Before this thread, if you asked me what memories I had of Kabuto, I would have said the Grandma-always-said line and these two episodes. They, uh. They left An Impression. :lol

I watched 29 last night. It is even more gloriously bonkers than I remembered.

Oh my god it's That two-parter