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XW1n5t0nX 09-03-2014 04:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powerman293 (Post 418856)
I just realized Jam has Sigurd's undersuit.
And the chest/shoulder style armor.

Den-O 09-03-2014 04:54 PM
Well that definitely isn't the Sigurd suit so I don't know why that's being said. It's very clearly the same undersuit that Mars & Kamuro had. Which themselves had variations of the Gaim undersuit. This entire rider is a repaint/remold of Mars with new head dress.

losondro 09-03-2014 04:56 PM
I thought Mars used the Baron suit :eyebrow

Den-O 09-03-2014 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by losondro (Post 418867)
I thought Mars used the Baron suit :eyebrow
My apologies. Mars does, Kamuro uses Gaim as a base. Here's the pre-arms comparisons:


In either case Jam uses the Apple Arms of Mars, an undersuit which has traits of both Gaim & Baron, and the weapons of Gaim Orange Arms. No Sigurd in there.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...538/ooC8bd.png

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...901/Ok95Oe.jpg

Powerman293 09-03-2014 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 418866)
Well that definitely isn't the Sigurd suit so I don't know why that's being said. It's very clearly the same undersuit that Mars & Kamuro had. Which themselves had variations of the Gaim undersuit. This entire rider is a repaint/remold of Mars with new head dress.
Sorry, I meant the base. I get those two terms mixed up all the time.

TokuChris 09-03-2014 05:41 PM
Actually, Jam looks to be like this:

- Undersuit of Zangetsu Shin (white, black markings)
- Chest armor of Mars (the Apple slices)
- Shoulder parts of Zangetsu (which were also used for Mars)
- Weapons of Gaim/Bujin Gaim (the red hue makes me think Bujin)
- A new helmet
- Boots & gloves from any of the other Sengoku Riders but recolored

Sentai 09-03-2014 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 418817)
I have a theory about that.

The Golden Fruit/Mai take all the evil, darkness, whatever you want to call it, out of Kouta and Micchy and Kaito. But it needs to go somewhere. And accidently creates a Rider. Jam. Or, the Golden Fruit/Sagara create Jam to look like Kouta as some final test to prove he's rule the world worthy

Also. Many naughty thoughts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kickback (Post 418847)
Thought.

We've seen a "dark" version of our normal Gaim (not Bujin) in the series (tie-in with the movie) that Sagura brought over to test Kaito. Who is to say that this is the "other timeline" Gaim who chose to use his Overlord powers to destroy and conquer instead of save?

What a neat way to tie up the series - Gaim has to fight the other-world version of himself that chose the dark path instead of the righteous path. And in the end, Drive comes and saves him.
Had a similar thought.

Powerman293 09-06-2014 04:01 PM
Maybe Jam is Sagara trying to fuck up the timeline by going to various critical points in the conflict and trying to stop them? That explains why the Kurokages are in that one photo

Moderator 09-07-2014 04:27 AM

losondro 09-07-2014 04:43 AM
I guess we were right that Ryoma would be in the Gaim x Drive crossover movie.

Talisman 09-07-2014 04:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by losondro (Post 420534)
I guess we were right that Ryoma would be in the Gaim x Drive crossover movie.
Just because Duke is there doesn't necessarily mean we'll be seeing Ryoma again.

Moderator 09-07-2014 05:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 420540)
Just because Duke is there doesn't necessarily mean we'll be seeing Ryoma again.
Then what about the Takatora in the pic with Mitsuzane going head on with Duke Cherry Arms?

Talisman 09-07-2014 05:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 420544)
Then what about the Takatora in the pic with Mitsuzane going head on with Duke Cherry Arms?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 420528)
I'm guessing you mean that pic?

That's a Zangetsu/Zangetsu Shin-type undersuit. It could be either of them or Jam, who uses the same style. Either way, not necessarily an indicator of Ryoma's return.

Moderator 09-07-2014 05:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 420546)
I'm guessing you mean that pic?

That's a Zangetsu/Zangetsu Shin-type undersuit. It could be either of them or Jam, who uses the same style. Either way, not necessarily an indicator of Ryoma's return.
Eh, heck I will explain myself again, my first reply to you wasn't clear.

A Takatora and Mistsuzane like figure was seen facing off ahainst Duke Cherry Energy arms. And a white undersuit could mean Zangetsu/Z-Shin which Takatora uses.

As many have known Takatora is probably dead.

So a Takatora dead canonically could mean a Ryoma dead canonically could return too.

EDIT : May not be Cherry Energy! There is no huge ass cherry on the left side of the suit!

ikkitennouji 09-07-2014 05:35 AM
I don't think it's Cherry Energy. I'm inclined to say Wizard Arms, but still... New Arms?

Powerman293 09-07-2014 06:04 AM
*Squints really hard*

Is that Blood lemon?

SideswipePrime 09-07-2014 06:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Powerman293 (Post 420553)
*Squints really hard*

Is that Blood lemon?
Blood Lemons are not a real fruit...

Maybe it's Mountain Dew Code Red Arms? :lol

Talisman 09-07-2014 06:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SideswipePrime (Post 420557)
Blood Lemons are not a real fruit...

Maybe it's Mountain Dew Code Red Arms? :lol
Could be a pomegranate. Or a cranberry.

Moderator 09-07-2014 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikkitennouji (Post 420550)
I don't think it's Cherry Energy. I'm inclined to say Wizard Arms, but still... New Arms?
I agree with you, and using my Super Ryoma Warring Net Searcher Certified Version 1.0 I narrowed it down to three fruits from what I observed.

- Rambutan (there is a cape that is torn and tattered, and the green things from the back of the helmet and the way the fruit opens at the right side of the suit like a Rambutan)

- Cranberries (yay the back of the helmet reminded me of Cherry Energy and this fruit can kinda fit too)

- Dragonfruit (for the awesumness)

KamenRiderOOO 09-07-2014 11:58 AM
https://31.media.tumblr.com/5f1cda9b...r35o1_1280.jpg

That is most definitely not a red Lemon :lol.

ElConvoy 09-07-2014 12:00 PM
Ryoma is back from the dead and uses Yomotsu Heguri Energy Lock Seed :lol

MrHerofan 09-07-2014 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElConvoy (Post 420651)
Ryoma is back from the dead and uses Yomotsu Heguri Energy Lock Seed :lol
Then we get the happy soda sound?

ElConvoy 09-07-2014 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHerofan (Post 420680)
Then we get the happy soda sound?
That would be the most ironic thing ever.

Powerman293 09-07-2014 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by elconvoy (Post 420651)
ryoma is back from the dead and uses yomotsu heguri energy lock seed :lol
yomotsu heguri energy arms!!!!

Mekai! Tatakai! Tatakai!

Den-O 09-07-2014 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 420650)
https://31.media.tumblr.com/5f1cda9b...r35o1_1280.jpg

That is most definitely not a red Lemon :lol.
Well damn that looks pretty wicked.

Kamen Rider Vega 09-07-2014 01:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 420650)
https://31.media.tumblr.com/5f1cda9b...r35o1_1280.jpg

That is most definitely not a red Lemon :lol.
This could be a pomegranate or a dragon fruit from the look of it

King Prinny 09-07-2014 01:48 PM
Just a rumor so there is no evidence to back it up. that would be a pretty interesting way to go

"Some rumours from the people who took the photos: Professor Ryoma returns as a cyborg, one of his lines is “Takatora, you’re a more powerful, worthy man than I expected”, and after he is defeated he’s reduced to a pile of machine parts (staff we’re seen picking up the pieces after the shoot)"

GoseiWonder 09-07-2014 03:14 PM
I don't care what it means if we don't get toys of it!

[CURRENTLY UNKNOWN LOCKSEED] ARMS! [HENSHIN PHRASE]!

Drifter448 09-07-2014 03:18 PM
Science Lemon's not-so lemony return!

Powerman293 09-07-2014 03:20 PM
Still think it's a Yomotsu Heguri Energy lockseed.

MaskedRiderAsakura 09-07-2014 04:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King Prinny (Post 420705)
Just a rumor so there is no evidence to back it up. that would be a pretty interesting way to go

"Some rumours from the people who took the photos: Professor Ryoma returns as a cyborg, one of his lines is “Takatora, you’re a more powerful, worthy man than I expected”, and after he is defeated he’s reduced to a pile of machine parts (staff we’re seen picking up the pieces after the shoot)"
Good ol' Ryoma being an evil genius again, if true. It's also a nice subtle way to reference the Kikaider crossover.

Den-O 09-07-2014 05:25 PM
So that new Duke is apparently Dragon Fruit or Dragon Fruit Energy Arms. It's from the Gaim/Drive crossover film. Hence why there are images on set of Takatora teaming up with Micchy to fight this new version of Duke.

There will also be a new Zangetsu suit with new golden adornments on the arms. I've seen at least 1 grainy image of it so it's happening.

Electric Turahk 09-07-2014 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 420824)
So that new Duke is apparently Dragon Fruit or Dragon Fruit Energy Arms. It's from the Gaim/Drive crossover film. Hence why there are images on set of Takatora teaming up with Micchy to fight this new version of Duke.

There will also be a new Zangetsu suit with new golden adornments on the arms. I've seen at least 1 grainy image of it so it's happening.
Don't care if it's just for a crossover movie... It's about damn time that fruit got used. :lol

Drifter448 09-07-2014 05:42 PM
Man, I think we need that Duke Dragon Fruit Energy arms as an AC figure.

vin13ish 09-07-2014 05:48 PM
I know it's sound crazy but It's IMPOSSIBLE to revive Mai back from the DEAD! She's now Woman of The Beginning! I wonder what happen to Mitch since Mai (his love) is killed by Ryoma

I have a theory that Mai actually change timeline but here a twist, Mai will be erase from exist because She is now Eve and prevent Yggdrasill from making bad happen

losondro 09-07-2014 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vin13ish (Post 420829)
I know it's sound crazy but It's IMPOSSIBLE to revive Mai back from the DEAD! She's now Woman of The Beginning! I wonder what happen to Mitch since Mai (his love) is killed by Ryoma

I have a theory that Mai actually change timeline but here a twist, Mai will be erase from exist because She is now Eve and prevent Yggdrasill from making bad happen
"Making bad happen"
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...2/facepalm.gif
What happened there?

Powerman293 09-07-2014 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 420824)
So that new Duke is apparently Dragon Fruit or Dragon Fruit Energy Arms. It's from the Gaim/Drive crossover film. Hence why there are images on set of Takatora teaming up with Micchy to fight this new version of Duke.

There will also be a new Zangetsu suit with new golden adornments on the arms. I've seen at least 1 grainy image of it so it's happening.
Pics? I'm just less inclined to believe stuff like "Micchy of the beginning" and "New Zangetsu" if you guys can't repost the pics.

vin13ish 09-07-2014 06:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by losondro (Post 420833)
"Making bad happen"
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conten...2/facepalm.gif
What happened there?
What do you means "what happened there?"

GoseiWonder 09-07-2014 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vin13ish (Post 420836)
What do you means "what happened there?"
Poor grammar.

And on the internet, poor grammar is somehow on par with burning down children's hospitals and eating kittens. I have no clue why?

Den-O 09-07-2014 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Powerman293 (Post 420835)
Pics? I'm just less inclined to believe stuff like "Micchy of the beginning" and "New Zangetsu" if you guys can't repost the pics.
Ahh yes. because I'm known to just make this stuff up :rolleyes

Micchy/Takatora teaming up
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...674/OgvXLE.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...912/4ga4fR.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/uIdfFM.jpg

New Zangetsu suit with golden arms.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...674/EHBqdH.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...902/xF4195.png


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