The Specter is a pretty dark character, so I would imagine a R rating would work for him. Personally I do feel like Superman does not need a R rated movie. The R rating for the home video release is done as a marketing gimmick to have people to buy the home video release. WB did the same thing by giving The Third Hobbit movie a R rated director's cut on Blu-Ray.

I do feel like The Killing Joke movie needs to be R rated if they want to be faithful to the graphic novel.

Yeah, but Fate and Question would make more sense to have an R rating than Superman. Superman has no business having an R rating at all.

It depends on the source material. Superheroes like Deadpool, Wolverine, Lobo, Specter, Punisher, Spawn, Invincible, Daredevil and Ghost Rider needs to have a R rated movie if they want it to have a proper movie adaption. When you take something that is R rated and make it PG-13, fans will hate it. Look at the first AVP movie, the 90's Mortal Kombat movies, the 1997 Spawn movie and the last two Ghost Riders. They water them down to make them to PG-13.

Mortal Kombat was just fine at PG13 though.

What? That movie was terrible. Mortal Kombat needed the gore, because the story and characters sure as hell couldn't carry it.

How can you say Dr. Fate needs an R rating, but Mortal Kombat is fine with PG-13?

The only way I could feasibly see a Doctor Fate movie having an R-rating is if it was about this guy:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...cans/Fate2.jpg

No it was not. MK needed to be dark and violent like the video games. The MK movie also did stupid changes to the story like Goro being defeated by Johnny Cage, Sub-Zero and Scorpion being henchmen for Shang Tsung and that Liu Kang kills Sub-Zero. You can't have MK without people being killed with lots of blood and gore.

That's why people didn't like MK vs. DCU because the game was rated T and DC didn't want their characters being killed or have their characters killing other people.

Yes, but as a video game it worked. My parents also would have never let me see it had it been R. Not everything needs to be overly bloody just for the sake of it.

Oh, and what is the issue with Cage defeating Goro? It's a fighting game. Any character can beat any character.

Also, Scorpion and Sub-Zero were under Tsung's mind control.

Believe it or not, Mortal Kombat has a rather rigid storyline.
For example, while I don't really know much about Goro, Scorpion has to kill Sub-Zero, since it plays into where the heroic Sub-Zero II and Noob come into play.

Yeah, but those are the games, not the movie. They're two different things.

That's a really stupid thing to say when you said Superman should be nowhere near an R rating yesterday.
With the justification of "Those are the _____, not the movie. They're two different things." All complaints are basically rendered moot.

There's a difference there though. At the time, Mortal Kombat only had 2 games out and had no true set tones.

Superman has been around for more than 75 years and has been defined by the comics, movies, and cartoons of the type of person he was before Snyder and the N52 decided to turn him into Batjerk.

Now you are right. Today, Mortal Kombat needs to be rated R and be bloody. Of course, it also all comes down to writing. If the people writing the DCCU movies knew how to actually write, they could have gotten away with this Superman. But they don't, so they didn't.

I had a thought that turned into a wild what if type thing.

What if James hadn't been home when Joker came knocking on the door. What if she'd been having a dinner date with Dick, and he was the one answering the door. He would've gotten shot and lost use of his legs inciting Batman into pure rage for crippling the man he considers a son. But then he also kidnapped Babs. Taking her through the horror tunnel of showing what Joker did to Dick while he was in pain and bleeding on the floor, sending her off the deep-end and pushing her over an extreme edge creating an ultra-violent Batgirl or maybe even a new Harley depending on how hard she broke.

It's fun to speculate.

Plot Synopsis and first logo for Justice League.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/ar...-logo-revealed

Also Empire visited the set of the movie.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/f...ngs-need-know/

Justice League: The Million Dollar Joyless Mess

Im not sure whether to worry about you, or encourage you to write this.

Was just about to buy a ticket to see The Killing Joke in cinemas and then I discovered it costs the same as it would for me to buy it on BD a week later.

I think I'll pass.

Tickets are on sale?

My tickets were at normal pricing of an average movie. 11.50 or something like that I believe.

For one night only.

http://fathomevents.com/event/batman-the-killing-joke

That's odd. None of the theaters around me are showing it. I figured the Alamo Drafthouse would be showing it if no one else.

This IS the normal pricing of a average movie here :(

You can do both.

So aside from the big names that are appearing any other heroes or villains you guys want to see as Rebirth has kicked in? I hope they carry on with Atom(both Ray and Ryan) after things finish settling in.

Terry back as Batman Beyond is the only thing I really cared about from Rebirth.

Wally West.

So I was going through the list of the late summer-early fall Rebirth titles, I'm glad I'm getting Batgirl twice a month even if it is two different books. Between Deathstroke, Cyborg, Teen Titans, and Blue Beetle- I'll probably keep up with TT and BB. I'm not completely a fan of Wade and Vic enough to get them every other week. Whereas the other other two books are monthly. Which is good when I'm already spending more than I'd like at this point. Lol

So I finally got around to picking up some DC Rebirth comics. My local comic book store was sold out of most of the titles, so I only had the chance to pick up DC Universe Rebirth and Batman Rebirth. DC Universe was amazing. It's a perfect preview of what's to come in the future and gives a great back story for Wally West. I haven't started Batman Rebirth yet, but I have high hopes for it. I think when my comic book shop restocks, I'll be back for Batman #1 and Flash Rebirth. I'm considering Detective Comics and Titans Rebirth but I'm not entirely sold.

the Man in Yellow has returned...

I hope that is real because that looks great despite the lack of red hair.

It is.

It is. DC official Twitter and The Flash Twitter both posted the photo and story.

I can't wait for Wally. Just to see how a second hero speedster will do.

Looks preeeeetty damn good.

Flash season 3 hype just got even more intense. I'm dying to know who the villain will be. I hope Jesse Quick makes an appearance.

I just hope the villain isn't another speedster.

Please let it be Mirror Master, guy has creeped me out since a comic my cousin got me showed him trapping Wally in Mirror world.

Plus he can avoid the Flash just fine with holograms and jumping through glass shenanigans, let alone being another member of the Rogues-with-guns-club.

It would've great to have Mirror Master since he's the only Rogue to not appear.

Dang that costume looks great, though I wonder what they'll call him, I doubt they'll use Kid Flash as the name of an adult hero.

Wow this sucks. The villain for Flash season 3 leaked during filming and it's another speedster. Based off of the description it seems like it could be either be the New 52 Reverse Flash (Daniel West), Black Racer, or Black Flash..
https://www.google.com/amp/moviepilo...client=safari#

We don't know if that is the season long villain though. He could just be there for the Flashpoint episodes.

Can't be Daniel West though because he is white while the Wests in the show are black. In fact, Black Racer is black too.