Abused children? have we been watching the same series?The only abused children I remember are the Cyber Newtypes and Phantom Pain pilots and the reason they didn't rebel is they were trained/programmed to be loyal to the Federation/Zeon/Alliance

And I hate Wing,Destiny and OO because terrorists are being celebrated as heroes the only series I've been able to tolerate that in is Zeta and that's due to the AEUG not launching unprovoked assaults against the world's militaries/cities/colonies and The Titans/Axis being completely irredeemable.

So I'll respectively disagree with you on Wing being the best series.

Amuro, Kamille, and Kira were forced to work for the military because they could pilot the Gundams and then they were beaten if they refused to listen or made a mistake.

One man's terrorist is another man's hero. We were technically terrorists to the British at one point in our history. We also were terrorists to the native Americans. To the middle east, we are the terrorists and groups like the Al Qaida are heroes. As such, it is all irrelevant. Besides, I see nothing wrong with what they did in Wing as they were getting rid of a totalitarian government. That is not praising terrorists, that is praising heroes willing to stand up and fight against corrupt officials.

Kira I might give you as I've only seen the compilation films but in the case of Amuro and Kamile I only remember them getting hit when they were clearly asking for it or by a complete jerkass we're supposed to hate. As for being forced to pilot the Gundam I don't remember Kamile being forced to do so in fact I remember him choosing to help Char steal them as for Amuro and Kira hard to hold it against the White Base and Archangel when the only other option is death and the pilots that were meant to pilot them are all killed by Zeon/ZAFT and Kira at-least was given the option to leave the ship fairly early but chose to stay because his friends were idiots.

Maybe you're right as I haven't seen Wing aside from Endless Waltz so maybe it isn't as bad as Destiny and 00.

Speaking of Gundam I just rented the first SEED movie.

May god have mercy in my soul

Speaking of Gundam some more, I started watching the movie trilogy. Not too bad in all honesty. Though I will say the battles aren't as great as I picture them in my head after reading The Origin.

That reminds me, I should get back to watching X considering how much I freaking loved the episodes I saw so far.

Considering those movies came out around 1981-82 and the Origin was published starting in 2001 obviously the quality diffrence is gonna be there. Plus your imagination.

But do the movies feel a bit more rough compared to the Origin?

Rough how?

Oddly paced, flow of scenes, story action and the like.

Oh what I watched so far it does seem the pace is a bit too fast.

Let me know what you think, I've always been curious about those.