Just this once, everybody lives!
I finally won matches at Uni, i have surpassed who i thought was unbeatable! Yes! Yes!

Congrats!

Bad new guys. So my friends and I tried to get a Smash Bros club started at my school. I had a two page proposal and a teacher willing to host. Turns out the administration thinks the club's focus is too narrow and told us to come back with a general video game club.

Saddens me honestly. Kinda kills my interest in Smash 4. I mean, I came up with this idea over the summer and I continued playing Smash because of it, in hopes of going to a tournament maybe and teaching people.

You don't want to play Smash because you can't start a club over it?

Demotivates me, you know? Smash has been getting boring for me in the standard free for all format and that's all my friends play everyday, and this club was kind of an opportunity to escape that and move up in the 1v1 competitive scene, which I find much more fun. Plus, i could have done it with my friends, which would have been great. But now that the club won't work out, that support system of making me grow in skill by playing other people I know face to face is gone (I know there's the 3DS version, but that is very finicky on inputs). I could still go to the tournament, but it's just not the same.

I don't care if you think that reasoning is dumb, I just kinda want to move on to other games. I'll still buy the DLC like the fanboy I am, but it won't be the same.

You could try doing what my uni did, make a Videogame club with Smash bros as the main focus.

You'd have a Smash bros club but you'd have to rotate out between stuff like Pokemon and Street fighter on occasion.

That's a great idea! Smash is meant to celebrate the many series that fill out its roster. I mean you can do Smash for about half the club's run time then do another game.

F.E: You can do Mario on Monday, Legend of Zelda on Tuesday, Star Fox on Wednesday....you get the general idea.

Plus having a video game club will allow you to just have fun!

I was bored last night so I went ahead and downloaded Project M to an SD card and booted up Brawl. Never played the game before nor Melee, so here's my first impressions.

So I boot up the game, and mess with Marth in the training mode because he's the character I main in 4. So then I went into Dreamland (which looks great, by the way) and started messing with stuff. First technique from Melee that I used was dash dancing and holy fuck it feels so good! Marth just feels so smooth when he does it, kinda like skating on ice almost. This totally beats the shit out of dance trotting in Smash 4, I only have to do half the amount of inputs and it feels good to control. I still haven't got to the point though where I can face the right direction to get to the ledge when I recover lol.

I messed around with the other characters too. Roy and Mewtwo are kind of interesting to watch and see how they play compared to 4, with a lot of interesting coincidental similarities on the Roy side.It's also kind weird to see all of the Brawl characters do stuff like dashdancing and wavedashing and stuff considering they're from a game with completely different mechanics. I don't like how they changed Snake though. The replaced his Rocket launcher side Smash with a knife, and his side special with a regular gun. Which is kind of disappointing they didn't stay completely true to his Brawl counterpart yet made him unique.

Back to Marth, I also started messing around with L cancelling. It's nice the game gives you a flash when you did it right, since I probably couldn't tell other wise. Also tried SHFFLing a bit towards the end, albeit inconsistently. L cancelling to me is whatever, I can live with the landing lag in Smash 4. Still can't believe people bust a nut over very few ways to lag cancel in Smash 4, and some take play with Smooth Lander and Heavy gravity on seriously. I also tried to do chain grabbing, but I used it against Link and not Fox so I couldn't get it to work.

But let's get to the good stuff. Wavedashing. Ho boy. So this is the thing people lose their god damn minds over for not being in any other Smash game. Eh. I couldn't get it to work for shit, so I may be a bit biased. Don't get me wrong, I see the value in it for mix ups and using standing moves and stuff. But it just is a stupid amount of inputs just to do one thing. I find it dumb that I have to jump, then point the analog stick diagonally and then press L all within the span of less then a second. I get the jump part for stuff like wavelanding, but this? Why couldn't the project M devs just make it so inputting diagonally on the ground and then L does a wavedash? I mean, I heard they reduced the windows from Melee to here, so why not give me another input while you're at it?

TLDR: Dashdancing feels amazing, not a fan of some of the changes they made to Brawl characters, L cancelling is whatever and wavedash is too many inputs for what should be a simple thing.

@Powerman: So I see you got PM for Brawl.

To reiterate I tried it but the bugs got to me so I just waited until SSB4 dropped. I think after playing both SSB4 and PM I can safety say I'm a SSB4 player.

I'm just not much of a fighting game guy. I play for fun more often than not and having to relearn Melee's system isn't something I have the time for anymore.

I only played Project M once, i sucked at it.
But it was pretty fun, i wouldn't mind getting it for myself at some point.

I played Project M before. It made me appreciate game designers even more for knowing how to properly make a game.

I guess you're both referring to the previous versions of Project M which I heard, had a lot of "jank". I'm paying 3.6, which I heard fixes a lot of that.

Though I wish the competitive community would stop thinking it knows better then the Smash dev team about how to make a game. Project M, that one guy asking Sakurai that if he beat him if he could join the dev team, just try to stop recreating Melee guys.

Most likely. It just made me realize that you can't just make Brawl into Melee. The characters were wildly unbalanced since they upped the speed, the system just felt off because the heavy hitters were moving too fast for their own good and the fast falling characters basically dropped like rocks, etc etc. It just had too many problems for me to want to play it for more than the hour or two I gave it.
You can't just make a game into Melee and expect it to work, which is why I always found Project M tournaments to be laughable.

I'm glad to know it worked out the kinks, though.

And the guy saying if he could beat Sakurai he could join the dev team is laughable. That's like me saying if I can beat Satoshi Tajiri in a Pokemon battle, I should be allowed to join GameFreak...

I just had the mental image of you putting Milotic in every body of water in the next Pokemon game.

Yeah. Upsets me this fandom is to busy trying to recreate Melee when they could take the best aspects of all the Smash games and make an entirely new one. Maybe the big SSB4 mod won't be straight Melee elitist jerking since we now have Smooth Lander and Heavy gravity for those people to play.

I also have this feeling that the Smash community thinks that Sakurai plays Smash at a very high level himself. Whenever people talk about Ganondorf needed a more accurate moveset, people always cite this one quote from an interview back in Brawl that said Sakurai mained Ganondorf. People treat this realistically slight bias and blow it out of proportion. I wouldn't be surprised if some people think that Sakurai mains ganondorf like Hungrybox mains Jiggypuff, where he stays loyal and knows every version of the character, gameplay wise, on a very deep level.

So people have been giving me shit on Smashboards for thinking that Melee is boring to watch.

Thanks guys for being part of one of the most supportive Smash communities. *Rolls eyes*

Melee is shit to watch. Everyone looks like they're having a fucking seizure since players think wave dashing in the same spot is what constitutes "Strategy." Commentators are getting hype over Fox neutral airing an opponent off the stage for the 17 billionth time or Falco f-throw into meteor d-air for the millionth time as if it's something to get hype over, and the pitifully small amount of characters actually chosen for "High stakes" games makes for one of the most dull tournaments to ever witness.

If anything Melee was never really meant to be this super high end fighting game. It was always meant to be sort of a party game but the way the game was programmed led into what we now know as the "Melee Meta Game" which is non stop space animal combat on whatever stage is considered legal.

As someone who doesn't see himself as a serious fighter player I can safely say yes; I do get bored seeing Fox dittos and Diddy dittos all the time during tournaments. I can see the people who frequent Smashboards want to see matches that aren't a mess of wavedashing, L Canceling and of course seeing other characters win for once.

Because hearing "this game's winner is Fox/Falco/Marth/Peach" tends to get very old even for super fans of Smash.

I absolutely destroyed somebody at uni today, i barely took damage and he lost in little over a minute. Huh, i think went a little overboard there.

I do think Melee had an intended competitive element too it, as many features that pro players used were intentionally programmed in (IE L-cancelling). But I imagine it was envisioned more like competitive Smash 4, with pushes and pulls rather then the aggressive Wavedash and shine heavy Melee the game has become.

I can buy that.

So there's rumors going around that Shovel Knight is going to be revealed as a DLC character at PAX. A nintendo site has sources claiming this, and both Smash Bros and Shovel Knight are going to be at PAX this week, and there's supposed to be a Nintendo themed dlc coming to the 3DS/Wii U versions of Shovel knight. Is this legit?

I'll believe it when i see it.

If legit, then neat. DLC I can finally skip on (Though unlikely that I actually would :p)
If not, then I wouldn't be heartbroken over it. I'm probably the only one who didn't board the Shovel Knight hype train. It was always just "average" for me.

I didn't either, it's an okay game but nothing really exciting.

I didn't even know it existed until people kept talking about wanting him in Smash.

You know what i'm just now realizing is a bit of a missed opportunity to put in Smash Bros?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmgkU3nBxgY
This song on Wily's castle.

How is it a missed opportunity?

Okay i missworded that, what i meant was that it feels kind of weird that the song isn't in Smash, because it's one of the more recognizable songs from the Classic series.

Was there a secret set of classic games that I missed? I played all but 7 and that song rings no bells whatsoever...

It was in Classic spin offs and the Vs games?

It's from both the Marvel VS Capcom series and Tatsunoko VS Capcom. It's a really good song and I can see the want for it.

*Shrugs* Guess I just never noticed it.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110715210700

Well in other news: huge restock of NA Amiibo!


....Sent to the phillipines! Including, Wii fit trainer, Captain Falcon, Little Mac and Villager!
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Really Nintendo? REALLY? You finally get off your lazy butt and make a good amount of NA amiibo and THATS what you do with them!? SERIOUSLY!?

Really? That's certainly annoying :lol

Annoying doesn't even begin to cover it. Their just doing this on purpose at this point.

Hey, my cousins need them :lol...and so do I...should give them a call XD

Take this with a grain of salt

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/report-...smash-bros.-wi

If this is true then I'm going to be a happy camper. Shovel Knight is an awesome game and maybe he'll be getting in. If Ryu can get in so can Shovel Knight.

@Klonoa: I really don't understand Nintendo's plans for the amiibos.. Sorry that the restock isn't coming to your area.

If true this would be phenomenal and most deserving for the great people over at Yacht Club Games, as well as the one (and only) Amiibo I'll every buy, simply because Shovel Knight only exists in plush-form and the Pop Culture Shock-statue isn’t coming around.