Zero is just down right boring and I don't even know how it has anything to do with Macross outside of Roy showing up in a few scenes and you see the Macross being fixed. There was nothing Macross about it and it felt pointless because it does nothing to enhance the original show. If you are going to do a prequel, you need to make it so it feels like it belongs there and has a purpose.

7 is just the same episode over and over again.

Plus takes way too long to do anything and does not have any pay off in the end. I will say that the movie version is vastly superior to the OVA version.

II feels like it should have been a 13 episode series condensed into 2 hours.

I stopped watching Frontier after 5 episodes. It was the worst thing I have ever seen with the name Macross on it.

The other problem is all of these series just don't fit with the original show. The Macross was destroyed at the end, and yet, sometimes it is still sitting there as if nothing happened. Exedol looks nothing like he did in the series in Macross 7.

Then you're only basing it on the fact that it doesn't have much to tie it to SDF Macross. It has plenty of prequel material on the protoculture and stuff that comes up in 7 and Frontier.

7 is...slow, I'm not going to deny that. I wasn't a huge fan of it either but at least its different.

I like Plus, but I won't deny a lot of that is down to spectacle. It's a much more grungy type of sci-fi than the rest of the Macross series.

II isn't canon and deservedly so. That IS awful.

Maybe you should give it more of a chance then, because Frontier is essentially the best parts of its predecessors merged into one show.

Yes they do. Sometimes loosely, but they definitely connect.

No it doesn't, it gets heavily damaged and crashes into a lake. Which is where it is in Macross Plus.

The DYRL Zentradi designs retconned the series ones.

Look, I was bored to death and I don't recall anything about Protoculture in Zero. I recall them talking about a bird race, which was what they thought the Valkyries were, but that was about it. It was fantasy instead of Sci-Fi, which is what Macross is. Of course, it also didn't help that the episodes came out far far apart from one another, so that also killed my enthusiasm for the show.

I do agree that 7 is different, and I did like that. I did not completely hate 7, but there was no need for it to be 52 episodes with additional OVA episodes (although, the one with Jenius' other siblings was funny). Basara was cool, but he sang the same song for like 20 episodes straight.

As for Frontier, maybe I'll give it another shot if it ever comes to the US, but I just have no desire to go out of my way to watch it. I just found the characters to be annoying, especially the girl who was worse than Minmay annoying.

EDIT: Watching DYRL today and I don't really like that movie now that I've rewatched it. The animation is pretty awesome, but I hated the new designs of the Zentraedi and I hate how the movie just shows something and you really wouldn't know what the purpose of that scene was if it weren't for the series (such as Max and Milia meeting for the first time). I also don't like how they separated the Zentraedi and Maltrandi into difference races, and then for some reason had the Zens join with the Macross to battle them only to have Bodolza decide to attack the Macross at the same time as them when Britai and his crew just suddenly decide to help the Macross, uh... it's way too complicated. Honestly, the animation is the only reason to watch the movie, especially since the Valkyrie's look so bad ass. Of course, it doesn't help that Max and Milia are my two favorite characters from Macross and they have little to no screen time at all, and what little they do, makes little sense.

I've started watching Avatar: The Last Airbender, keeping in pace with Doug Walker. It's really hard to not rush ahead, since the series is so good.

i dont clas that as an anime due to it more of a western carton with the style of anime

So I finally got around to watching Hyouka. KININARIMASU/10

It's an awesome series.

From a technical standpoint, isn't any cartoon that airs in Japan an anime? While Avatar may not have aired in Japan, being made in Japan isn't a prerequisite to being an anime.

It is by western standards.

That show is dangerously addictive.

watching "Horizon in the middle of nowhere." not a bad show. it's..... interesting. i watch it for the "plot".