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Fortune 05-31-2013 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 163363)
FINALLY
Someone else gets it.
Oh no dont get me wrong ...I kinda... LIKE...Justin (dont EVERYONE kill me now) I just knew hed pick Justin over Rocco and it would drive Sentai crazy so I set it in motion!

Matrixbeast 05-31-2013 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fortune (Post 163422)
Oh no dont get me wrong ...I kinda... LIKE...Justin (dont EVERYONE kill me now) I just knew hed pick Justin over Rocco and it would drive Sentai crazy so I set it in motion!
Justin was awesome.
Better actor than 4/5 of the previous cast, underwent this thing called character development, and while he could get mary sueish at times, he never reached Billy "I built a flying car using an old junker and my hubbleflux neutron hyper-capacitor at home" Cranston levels.

xSkullheartx 05-31-2013 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 163412)
"Badass" works in different ways.
A team full of Carters is different than a team full of just overall "Cool" characters. Bruce Lee and Batman are both badass, but they're not the same person. They won't make the same choices, they don't fight the same way, they don't do the same things.

The problem is that your declaration of a team of badasses relies solely on everyone acting in the same manner.

Billy rides on nostalgia, not ability, skill, or intelligence, but nostalgia. Nothing more. For other categories, there are strong characters, popular characters, underdogs, etc, that could go either way.
It's rather reoccurring for someone to declare "I know how things will turn out" and then the winner of the round proves to be quite the opposite in these threads.
If it came across as "declaring",my bad.I just think thats how it'll turn out based on how the voting is going so far.As for Billy,it's a personal opinion.He grew in the series,lasted quite a while(probably longer if not for backstage problems),and for him to have lasted as long as he has without a special mode or weapon just proves he's a good fighter.

I just have a problem with how it went from a tournament to find the ultimate team,to a contest to see who people like the most.Some votes are based on memory,some on popularity.Others on personality and strengths.I think the latter is what we need to use to vote on.That's why we have the wiki links one the first pages,to see how they'd match up power wise.

Matrixbeast 05-31-2013 02:01 PM
But you can't look at things from a pure power perspective, though.

Characters don't operate like robots. They fight in different ways, and that leads to them using their abilities in different manners.

Connor has super speed, for example.
From a strict power standpoint, that's a huge bonus.
From a character standpoint, it doesn't weigh in at all, as he essentially never used them, outside of two or three fights, all unmorphed.

xSkullheartx 05-31-2013 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 163444)
But you can't look at things from a pure power perspective, though.

Characters don't operate like robots. They fight in different ways, and that leads to them using their abilities in different manners.

Connor has super speed, for example.
From a strict power standpoint, that's a huge bonus.
From a character standpoint, it doesn't weigh in at all, as he essentially never used them, outside of two or three fights, all unmorphed.
Same can be said about personality,which is why Flynn is winning right now.

Matrixbeast 05-31-2013 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by xSkullheartx (Post 163445)
Same can be said about personality,which is why Flynn is winning right now.
He showed quick thinking and ingenuity by using the post-morph explosion as an attack.
I know that's only one example, but it shows him taking a more limited power set and making use of what he has.

I really can't think of what Madison ever did in a fight beyond fire lasers.

SideswipePrime 05-31-2013 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 163444)
But you can't look at things from a pure power perspective, though.

Characters don't operate like robots. They fight in different ways, and that leads to them using their abilities in different manners.

Connor has super speed, for example.
From a strict power standpoint, that's a huge bonus.
From a character standpoint, it doesn't weigh in at all, as he essentially never used them, outside of two or three fights, all unmorphed.
Which I think was Dino Thunder's greatest mistake.

KRX 05-31-2013 05:12 PM
Has anyone mentioned the fact that Flynn was a policeman, firefighter, and general of a tribe of native New Zealandamericans, in addition to being one of the few Power Rangers to say the word "die"?

Fortune 05-31-2013 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KRX (Post 163527)
Has anyone mentioned the fact that Flynn was a policeman, firefighter, and general of a tribe of native New Zealandamericans, in addition to being one of the few Power Rangers to say the word "die"?
I must admit I forgot all those things about him :lol

Switchblade 05-31-2013 10:40 PM
Flynn unsurprisingly moves on. Next round up shortly.


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