Oh man that looks nice.

Since the SIC thread has been bumped with news, could anyboy sprinkle some knowledge on me in regards to this? I can find any pictures or info on it.

I wonder if you could form swap a Joker Cyclone of of those, if the gimmick's still intact.

You can. Found a thread.

http://www.tokunation.com/showthread.php?t=51

Man, the S.I.C. OOO figures are really amazing. Just a question, when do S.I.C.'s of a character typically come out? I'm waiting for Fourze ones. :D

Fourze would look pretty awesome, gotta say.

Wizard in SIC would either look amazing, or horrible.

Wow.

Now I really want it. Especially since I can actually find it and not the actual SIC Cyclone Joker with the extreme parts.

Shauta's looking beautiful, as expected. Just gimme Sagozo already :D

Dang son that's sick. I would not mind having that.

Usually about a year after the show ends.

If that set is a price you're comfortable with, buy it. It's better designed than the original CJ/X figure. They redesigned the ab section for the HM/LT set, and it's WAY better than the CJX, plus you can do other funny form changes with that set, with the Cyclone and Joker on the wrong sides.
I need to get it someday.

I know all about CJ/CJX problems compared to the latter releases, how his compatibility with the form swap gimmick of HM and LT only has room for two core skeleton pieces, and how even with CJX you have tons of CJ parts left over.

I wonder if, were someone to have CJ/CJX, FangJoker and Skull, CC/JJ and HM/LT, if they didn't want to display CC/JJ they could use the parts to accomplish a display of all double's main forms?

I'm too tired to be sure I'm doing the math right, but do display all 9 of Double's Shotaro base forms, you'd need 3 each of the HM/LJ set and CJX or CC/JJ. You need three of each half to swap around.
CC/JJ only gives you one Cyclone and one Joker half that are on the proper side for the forms, so even though it has two figures, only one of them is usable in a display of the 9 forms.

Right?

I actually meant just have three combos.

With the original Cyclone Joker set and the HeatMetal LunaTrigger set, unless you want CycloneJoker by himself at all times, you can't form swap and have three figures, since only HM/LT have the inner frame with the swappable hip joints and midsection pegs, along with inner heads to swap faces on. BUT, HM/LT does come with halves for form-swappable CycloneJoker head and new midesection, but no frame since the original's has no pegs and no inner head piece. But the CC/JJ set has all that since it's based off the improvements made for HM/LT.

So, with the CC/JJ set, the CJ/CJX set and HM/LT, you could swap parts enough to have three form swappable doubles, plus a complete CJX. (since the Cyclone Joker set originally, I believe, only had one set of shoulder "muscle" pads and the maximum drive slot. Effectively having display options for all his most common forms.

Only thing is I bet you'd have a lot of extra parts. BUT you'd have full form-swap-ability throughout all three figures without compromising on CJX or having only two form-swapped doubles outside of the common combinations. Basically turning the SICs into hightly detailed WFC figures.

I guess I'll find out one day since I plan on getting all the Double SICs no matter what.

I think you are correct. I was typing up a message to the effect of I thought that you only needed CJX & HM/LT, but the more I think about it, the more I think that it DOESN'T work with the CJX ab piece.

So you can have the primary three forms, or you can have your choice of 2 of any of the other forms. You'd either need another HM/LT set or the CC/JJ set to get a 3 ab piece with the pegs. I THINK it's just the one piece that CJX doesn't have that is needed. I think the CJX hips work fine, because of the change needed for the Extreme form. But I might be mistaken.

Yes, you would have a ton of extra parts, enough to make 1 additional figure (but he'd be backwards JokerCyclone) and nearly enough to make a 2nd additional figure.
Really, in your scenario, the only thing the CJ/X set gives you is the CJX form. CC/JJ has everything needed to do the form changes with the HM/LT set, so you could get away with just buying the 2 sets, unless you really want CJX, which I think it's a great form.

I have always intended to get CC/JJ so I could leave CJX alone and have 3 figures for full form change abilities. But I've always found other stuff to spend money on before that. I just display mine in the primary 3 forms.

I definitely recommend them, they're fun figures, the form changing is fiddly, because you break the figures down to their component piece, it's not a rip it in half and stick it together again like the WFC. But imo, the Fang Joker / Skull set is the most awesomest, but FJ is also Double's best form.

I think FangJoker is double's best form, too.

And yeah, I just really want extreme. I mean, I'm not a fan of the show suit that much, but the SIC takes it from "Okay" to "Holy God that is sweet." It actually looks like a final, ultimate form.

Like I said, I plan to get them all since I want the improved Cyclone Joker and Extreme. I have Skull and FangJoker coming so I'm alreayd 1/4 of the way there. :D

Cool, FangJoker is really great, the arm/leg and shoulder spikes are metal, which I think is really cool.
Skull is so photogenic, and he just looks awesome from every angle, I love him.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ps6e529c79.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ps3c6c802e.jpg

These guys are friggin' awesome. They're almost perfect. Unlike most toys of this level, which is to say high-end Bandai Japan stuff, there's no outright flaws that I've discovered. Usually I find some joints work against eachother, like in my Figuarts Cyclone Joker where his inner shoulder joint is loose but his actual shoulder joint is rock solid, everything here has the perfect tolerance. Nothing's too tight or too loose. (I, of course, had to remedy Skull's hat. But applying the same fix to it that I did the figurize gives me a rock solid Skull) They're solid, I love the aesthetic, quality's top notch and the paint work is to do for. I mean, I didn't think I'd ever hate them, but I wasn't prepared to be smitten. I thought they'd be pretty display pieces at best. These are more solid than most of my actual toys. I accidentally dropped FangJoker from chest level on a carpeted floor and while he exploded into a billion pieces (ala form swap) not a thing was damaged. Not even his crest. In fact it just demonstarted, yet again, how tolerant but not super stiff part swapping and joints are.

I also finished OOOs today, which was awesome since I had Tajador in front of me the whole time. Now I want to get Tatoba and I'm saving my pennies for Putotyra. Though I heard Tatoba's not that great? Aesthetically I can't say I'm super fond of the head. I think it takes liberties that don't work with the Tatoba helmet design (the small eyes, mainly. Everything else looks awesome) but I can look past that. But I heard he has some QC issues, but never saw anyone mention details? (I also hear the SH Figuart has issues too. Poor Tatoba can't catch a break)

I mean, if all SICs are like these three, I can't understand why the line isn't at Figuarts-level popularity yet. Though I guess the aethetics aren't everyone's thing. (and even if they are, I'm sure peopel prioritize show-accuracy over the artistic redesigns) This needs more releases, too. And not all exclusives. (Gatkiriba, Shauta)

I really like SIC TaToBa. From the right angles the helmet isn't bad. The only inherent problem with him is one of the legs and how it's molded such that he can't stand exactly straight or w/e. The only QC issues I can think of would be a loose joint here or there.

I'm really looking forward to PuToTyra as well, but that won't be out until May. GataKiriBa cannot come soon enough.

Is Gatakiriba not out?

Huh, I wonder if this means I have a shot. I'd really love to own them all. There's not an SIC of an OOO combo I don't like. I would love to see how Sagozo would look. (seems dumb for them not to do it)

GataKiriBa releases in March. The orders for it have closed though. I'm sure you'll be able to find one somewhere eventually.

And they've shown all 7 SIC OOO forms already. Or the protoypes at least.

SaGoZo:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...04392033_n.jpg

SaGoZho always looks so Beastly as a SIC. I'm so glad they're doing these. There may not be solid release info for the rest of then yet but I will get them all. Exclusive or not.

That makes 2 of us.

SaGoZo was the form that made me want to get the S.I.C OOO. Out of those initial concept art, it was definitely the best.

Definitely. If I can afford to go all out on these guys I definitely would, but I'll be able to pass on them quite happily as long as I can get my hands on him.

right now im VERY glad my usual sources seem to be out of stock on the SIC ooo's. im getting sorely tempted

Man, Sagozo looks off the chain.

And that's the first time I've ever said that.

I just can't get over how good these figures are. I mean, I'm used to handling these things like I would an infant child, yet they're as solid as an infant child that's also part bison.

Well I thought about picking up that set, I love the sculpts, but the hips being hindered are a deal breaker for me. I saw 1 video review and while they looked cool, I decided I might like the Figuarts more.

However, I'm tempted each time I see pics. The only SIC I have is ZX. I love the sculpt but find that it's somewhat fiddly, I also hate how hindered the hips are on it too.

After having these guys (FangJoker/Skull) for two days, I can say for sure: the hips are not hindered.

I'll make sure to take more pics next time I have my camera out to illustrate, but the soft pieces around the hips are only stiff for about a few poses before the gradually loosen up. They can sit, crouch, run, all that good stuff. You just have to make sure the rubber bits slip over the legs. (Otherwise the rubber can push the legs off their pegs) They're not as clear as Tajador, but short of sidesplits can do everything you'd expect. It's just a matter of loosening the rubber pieces up gradually and making sure to not leave them in poses that really bend the rubber. (since it can stay bent, BUT you can always bend it back) I can deffinately see why people would think they are, because they're deffinately resisteance, but the rubber's a shifty eyed guy before a poker champ. He'll fold soon enough.

Again, these are some of the most, if not the most, solid and well-crafted action figures I own. I can't think of anything I'd expect them to do that they don't.

Can the legs bend forward like 90 degrees? Also do you know if the figures after Kamen Rider W in the SIC line are of the same high quality?

Yes the legs can bend 90 degrees forward. It's actually quite a simple ball socket in there, but due to the form swap gimmick the hips have a tiny bit of swing back and forth which makes it far easier to get the top of the legs under the skirt then I imagine it would have been on the original Cyclone Joker. (but still possible)

And while I can't speak for every SIC past double, I have Tajador of OOOs fame as well and he is emmaculate. (sp? I've never had to spell that word before) He also has unhindered thighs, ven less so since his skirt armour is more traditional (parted just above the legs) and he can actually do a bit more than a 90 bend at the hips, due to a ball joint in his lower waist. As for overall quality, these things are top notch. I haven't discovered a single issue in construction, or even paint slop. The only thing I thought was an issue about Tajador that I now see as a positive is that his belt and skirt armour don't peg in. They jiggle ever so slightly. However this seems to be for ease of posing and despite the jiggle they never sit unaturally or crooked. If Every OOOs SIC is of his quality you have nothing to worry about. (however I heard something about Tatoba having some kind of minor issue, but as someone pointed our before in this thread it's something about the way the legs are sculpted not allowing for perfect straight-legged stances where both legs are parallel)

I should join here with the addition that the Den-O SICs are even a bit better than the W SICs.
And several of the Den-O sets are dirt cheap. They're a little bit more poseable and less likely to fall to pieces (since they don't have to be disassembled for their form change) than the W figures.

Of the many I have (Kuuga, Kabuto, Den-O, W, & Kiva), overall the Den-O line is the best. But, Skull is really the single best SIC I own.

Surprising to hear, they do look amazing.

Here's some pics of the hip joints in action.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ps2209d6f1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...pse691efdf.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ps35ab73b1.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...psfbc84bec.jpg

Better articulation that most figuarts.

Thanks, much appreciated

Glad I could help.

Also, nothing to do with hip articulation, but I just realised I never took pictures of Tajador with his sweet bird talons. Those things are slick as hell and combined with the wings and on a stand they make him look incredible.

Could I get some feedback on the Den-O SICs? I can't find many good pictures or reviews of the things and I know earlier SICs have a tendancy to be... fragile? Also, were the Imagine made in SIC form?

From what I've heard the Den-O ones are pretty good. They're more modern with better poseability and less fragile. And since they came out mostly when Den-O was huge, pretty much every character possible has an SIC, including Naomi and Hana.

Wait, what? I gonna see pictures of this.

I just wish the SIC Momotoros had bigger horns. He kind of looks like a cat.

Also yeah what the hell they made SICs of the non-superpowered characters?

Also why the chuff is LunaTrigger and HeatMetal so cheap on Mandarake? Or rather, why is it so cheap AND I CAN NEVER FREAKING GET IT BEFORE IT SELLS OUT!?

http://www.gunjap.net/site/?p=2664

Actually, it looks like they're just statues. My bad.

Wow those are horrible.

The Den-O ones are great, I love them, they're the best SICs I have. No problems with fragility, and they're quite poseable. I have Wing Form with me at work right now, and it is amazing looking.

Didn't see your original question, so I didn't give enough info.

The Imagin were all released in the full size SICs, except Seig, though there was a prototype of him shown at some point. Negataros was also released.

Momotaros comes with Sword form and runs 6000-8000 on Mandarake.

Kintaros comes with Gao, and is an AMAZING set, that one I think runs 4000-6000.

Ryutaros comes with Gun Form, Urataros with Climax Form and Deneb with Zeronos (Altair/Vega form). These are usually 2000-3500.

They're all really great, and any of them is worth getting.

I have all of them, except New Den-O, Nega Den-O and Negataros, I think. Oh, and Super Climax form. Feel free to ask me anything you want to know about them.

I think I've posted pictures of them in this thread before but if you don't want to go hunting for them, they should all be in this folder: http://ryanlb.com/images/kamen-rider/sic/

http://ryanlb.com/images/kamen-rider...-imagins-1.jpg