Should sentai try another crack at using other type of textiles like they did in Go-busters.

Which episode of Sun Vulcan did they throw the rabbit in?

Sun Vulcan is a very unique season. My only problem with it is that it's too out-of-generation for me. I can't stand watching any of the 70's and early 80's Sentai.

However, I've watched snippets of their episodes and Sun Vulcan seems better than all the rest. I'll watch it in the future. I'm drawn to it.

I'm hoping they'll do an all-male Sentai again in the near future. I'm very curious how the team dynamics would be especially with modern fans.

Well sorry to tell you about this but I doubt they will do another All-Male Sentai

There was a controversy about the lack of female ranger. Because of the massive negative outpouring of a team without a female member, every season starting from Sun Vulcan's successor would have one after this.

Yeah that's never happening. Even though it's a show aimed at little boys, it has its female fans. Lacking a female character for the girl fans to identify with would be a mistake, and Toei knows it. Possibility of a future all-male team is zero. And I like team diversity, so I'm in favor of it.

Matrix has literally the exact opposite opinion lol

When it comes to male characters, I liked Battle Fever J and Denziman more because they felt like they had a little more variety to them than the leads of Sun Vulcan did.

We can have diversity with an all-male cast.
For instance:
Red can be a tough military-man and serious leader. He's organized and most physically capable of the team.
Blue can be the book-smart guy. He's the most knowledgeable member of the team.
Yellow is happy-go-lucky. He's the youngest member of the group and releases tension when members fight.
Green can be the street-smart, logical strategist. He's very observant and he works well with blue.
Black can be the cool badass bad boy and is the most skillful but is cold to his team.

If a season like this existed, I'd prefer a dark and edgy one with an older cast who has background in any form of fighting.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't ratings high during Sun Vulcan?
I don't think it would hurt Toei to do an all-male team where it matters, the sales.

Yes, the may have been high at the time. But those were different times. Also, it gets a lot of reviews from todays fans. I personally have not seen it yet, but I plan on giving it a shot.

Not gender diversity though, which is what Moonson meant.

Yes. In the early 80's. More than 30 years ago.

I don’t think that's true at all. The boys buy your stuff anyways, even with female ranger piloting the mechas and using the gear, so why get rid of said female rangers and thus an additional income from girls? Because even if it may be a small percentage, it's still extra sales you would miss out on if you scrap female rangers entirely.

Also, we’re not living in the 70’s or 80’s anymore, if Toei decides to do an all-male team nowadays there will be a shitstorm. A justified one IMO. There’s literally no reason to do that, at all.

The boys already have (usually) 4 male rangers to identify with, I don’t get why having 2 for the girls is such an issue to you.

I would add that if there's no female team members Power Rangers won't want to touch it either (especially in an age where they can clearly skip over shows if they want), which will hurt sales on an international level.

Personally I'd love there to be a proper gender balance for once, even if they dared just to try it once. Getting a female sixth would be AMAZING.

Uniqueness. I want to see how team dynamics is like on an all-male team. I would love them to try it even for just one season. Yeah I know we had Sun Vulcan but that was a different generation.

Also, Sun Vulcan doing well in the 80's because it was 30 years ago does not prove that it won't do well today. We just had a record of an all-male team doing well in the ratings. Gender diversity doesn't really matter. We have shows that has no gender diversity (sailor moon, charlie's angels, powerpuff girls) and those shows are doing fine.

And I don't think anyone would be angry about the all-male team other than a few vocal SJWs and feminists. That's actually a good thing for Toei. We all know what shitstorm they create. These groups will do the advertising for them. People will get curious and watch the show.
Power Rangers not touching it won't hurt Toei's overall sales at all. PR is forced to choose between seasons anyway because of its format in Nickelodeon.

And what about the female fanbase? Super Sentai isn't just catering to your tastes.

Really?

:lol You REALLY think Toei doesn't make any money from its franchise being sold internationally? The circumstances on why Saban can pick and choose doesn't matter, the fact is they can and they won't want to touch a show that alienates people. Especially one that for all intensive purposes is trying to be inclusive.

At this point I'm genuinely wondering why you watch Sentai and not just Kamen Rider, where the heroes are predominately male. Or hell even Garo, where they've actually created a (ridiculous) in-show reason why women can't transform.

The main issue with your argument is this: you seem to be ignoring that shows have INTENDED FANBASES. The shows you used to display a lack of gender diversity all were created with girls as the INTENDED audience. Check, Sailor Moon is a SHOUJO series. But does that stop the fans from being both men and women? Hell no! Lol. I've been to multiple cons and have seen fans all shapes and sizes attending a Power Puff Girls panel as well as a Sailor Moon panel.

Now Sentai. The show isn't created just for little boys anymore like back then, it's for children in general. Watch some footage of the stage shows. You'll see the audience is not just little boys but all sorts of children. Look at pictures of signing events. All sorts of children there. Your claim that the only "SJWs" and "feminists" will complain about an all male Sentai is horribly misguided. Sentai presents heroes for children. A team of great power and hope. Something to inspire all children. That's why they try to diversify as much as they can, for all children to look at the tv and say "hey, if he/she can be a hero, why can't I?" In taking out the female characters you rob their fans of finding someone to connect to. And like said previously, that hurts sales. Not only do boys buy toys, girls do too. If you think they don't, they wouldn't release the merchandise that relates to the female characters.

To be fair, that's not an entirely terrible reason. However, with your opinions behind it all I can’t help but feel a bit skeptical.

It also doesn't prove that it would do well today.

Again, 30 years ago. That proves nothing.

For you. You can’t speak for any gender except your own, so don’t talk shit about how gender diversity doesn’t matter when you have no idea what you’re talking about.

And as someone who shares your gender (apparently) I would prefer if you would not speak for us.

Difference is that Sailor Moon was created by a woman who chose to aim her work at girls, Charlie’s Angels' whole shtick was a team of badass women and Powerpuff Girls played on the innocence and cuteness of little girls by letting them be kickass superheroes at the same time.

Sentai however was about a team of man and women fighting crime side by side from the very beginning. You’re basically trying to force a gender role upon a show which never made it its goal to promote one.

Well you’re wrong, I would care. I wouldn’t be angry, but I would care. And I’m neither a vocal Feminist (even though there’s nothing wrong with that) nor a SJW. I’m just someone with a brain and good education. And anyone who shares said traits would care too, because there’s no real reason to have Sentai shows without female rangers. Thus, if they did, it would be sexist.

Wait, how does an all-girl team not stop the fans to be men and women while an all-boy team will rob girls of their superheroes? Are you saying boys can have female superheroes while girls can't have male superheroes?




I would love to reply more but time is very limited. I'll be back. :)

Because all girl teams are intended to break the stereotype that all superheroes are male etc. What you're proposing is reinforcing it.

Exactly what Zeo said. You glossed over my point about intended audiences. Again, Sentai is meant for ALL CHILDREN. It's NOT meant to cater to us, the adult fans, but TO THE KIDS. You may want an all male team but it's not gonna happen in Sentai nowadays as the times have changed and now their intended audience has expanded beyond just boys.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having an all-male or all-female team in shows outside of Super Sentai.

Within Super Sentai though, I feel it's better to have at least one female presence. Speaking from the perspective of a foreigner and not trying to put myself in the shoes of some six year old Japanese girl, it adds a bit more variety to the team. Not to mention that with the exception of Sun Vulcan, having at least one woman on the team has been a thing since Goranger.

I was literally just about to post this exact same reply!

Liam, considering your desire for a "dark and gritty" sentai season and your desire for an elimination of all females from the franchise, I sincerely wonder what it is you even like about Sentai. "Light & breezy" and "gender cooperation" are fundamental parts of this franchise -- sentai wouldn't be sentai without them.

I wish you would stop trying to poke holes in our arguments and start trying to internalize what we're actually saying. What does it say to you that not one person agrees with you regarding gender in Sentai? And why would you keep saying these things over and over, when just about everyone vehemently disagrees with you?

Liam, I suspect that one day you'd like to date or be in a relationship with an intelligent, interesting, capable woman. Am I right there? If that's the case, I really think you should reevaluate a lot of your positions regarding gender, otherwise that's not going to happen. I implore you to ask yourself, whenever you think of something that excludes women or treats them as inferior or unworthy, how you would feel if you were a woman and heard someone say these things to you. Like, really really think about how what you're saying would make you feel if it was being said to you. Use every ounce of empathy to put yourself in their positions. If you do this for even just a week, I bet you'll come out the other end as a better person.

Nobody is saying that girls CAN'T be a fan of all-male Sentai teams, and nobody is saying that boys CAN'T be fans of Sailor Moon. However, the target audience for Sailor Moon is girls, while the target audience for Sentai is both boys AND girls.

You're treating this like there's a perfect balance when there clearly isn't.
Boys have heroes out the wazoo. Sentai features 3 (Sometimes 4) male characters for boys to project themselves onto, Kamen Rider was a solo hero series (Excluding V3 and Tackle, until 2001) only featuring male protagonists (The amount of female Riders in the franchise that appear on screen being 5 (6 including Tackle. There are special and movie exclusive female riders, however). There's also Garo, which is for a bit of an older crowd, but still male exclusive.

Girls have one or two characters in Sentai to project themselves onto, and virtually no presence in Kamen Rider and Garo outside of the supporting cast.
There's also Metal Heroes, which have been dead since the 90's, mind you, but still, like the others, completely male dominated.

No one gets up in a tizzy over Magical Girls' all female cast because it's a girl's best chance to have strong, main characters to relate with that the plot also centers on.
Thankfully, Toei isn't trying to create a divide, because girls still enjoy KR and Sentai, too~

I wouldn't say completely just mostly. Solbrain, Blue SWAT, B-Fighter, and B-Fighter Kabuto all had female members.

I know there were women around, but it was just as much a sausage party as KR :p

Aw, c'mon. At least they weren't movie exclusive characters.

Fair enough~

I wouldn't say Garo doesn't have female heroes. Women may not be allowed to be Makai Knights, but there are a lot of prominent and powerful female Makai Priests throughout the franchise. Rian is generally depicted as Ryuga's partner and equal in most situations, Yuna is considered to be effectively a Knight even if she doesn't have armor, and Jabi is generally viewed as one of the biggest badasses in the entire franchise. We also have two full movies that are focused solely on female characters. I'd rank that as being far more equitable to female characters than anything Sentai, Rider, or Ultraman has done.

Alright, that's fair enough.
I'm just focusing on the henshin hero side of things, rather than the protagonist cast as a whole, since women do play large roles in Kamen Rider as well.

When was the last time superheroes was a male stereotype? We've had Wonder Woman who existed since the 1950's. If anything, that stereotype has been broken by now.

And with your logic, I guess you won't have any problem with a show about an all-male team of chefs to break the stereotype of cooking is for women?

You're right. Sentai is meant for all kids, not just boys. But my point is, one season with all-male team won't hurt.

Exactly! However, we will never have an all-male show ever again. To some people, all-male team is a problem while all-female is perfectly fine. The reason being Zeo said it himself. Sentai would be a good show to try one season of an all-male team out. I mean, they did it with Ghost Busters, why can't Sentai do the same?

If you know of an all-male fighting team that exists. Like groups of 3 or 5. Preferably, still ongoing after 2010, I would love to know what the title of the show is.

Can you site a post of mine that said so?

I personally don't like Kamen Rider's suit design but that sounds like my type of show. Is there a season in Kamen Rider that's a group of men rather than one-man though?

Also, it's true that male superheroes outnumber female superheroes but they are always present in team superhero shows and almost always one of the most significant members in the team. I would count quality over quantity as well.

That's really not the best way to think about Garo. The armor is used just as a finishing move, more often than not. Most of the fighting, male and female, is done out of suit.

Every Rider show after Kuuga has at least two Riders. If you want something with group dynamics, though, I'd go with Ryuki, Blade, or Gaim.

If it's not blatantly obvious, I didn't get very far into Garo when I first watched it :lol
I only have secondary info that I get from skimming posts~

I would appreciate it if you did not change what I said to suit your argument. This is what I said.

You know, just to clarify that I'm against the idea of having a Super Sentai composed of only one sex.

That's the thing, while it won't hurt the viewing audience it will hurt the company. Like I said, taking out a female role model for the kids takes away part of their viewing audience. They lose out on merchandise sales as you take out the female character related merchandise. The best compromise is if you want an all-male team is to have them only START OUT all-male then add on female members/and/or have female support members that will take on the hero role. That way, the kids still have something to look up to and maintain interest.

The one time they did that, Sun Vulcan, a lot of people were really pissed. So, yeah..it kind of would hurt.

However, by your logic...an all-female team wouldn't hurt either, right?


For the most part, Kamen Rider starts off with one Rider, and then as it goes on, more Riders show up and help fight. However, the focus is still on the lead Rider, and it doesn't have the same sort of team dynamic that Sentai does. Basically, it's like how Sentai gets the 6th ranger, except instead of starting with 5 you start with 1.

What ever happened to teams getting motorcycles? Is it a "Kamen Rider already does it, so it's redundant" thing?

I was under the impression that the team owning any kind of road vehicle was becoming less and less common.

It has become very uncommon, actually it's pretty much non-existant.

Well, not completely. The Kyoryugers had motorcycles, and Red Buster's buddyroid could transform into a motorcycle (I think).
It is rather scare, though.

I don't know how much cooking you know or do, but these days there are far far more prominent male chefs then there are females so your awful comparison doesn't work here.

It was kind of a strange experience to watch some 80s Super Sentai where there's a couple of motorbikes and cars per series and then try make the effort to catch up on Zyuohger and see two of the main characters take a bus.