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AgileSiamang7 11-20-2015 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by FormerTitanium (Post 576365)
He stole Tai's girl yo.
To be fair (as much as it disgusts me), Matt "stole" nothing. Sora chose him, because either Tai took too longer (Eng Dub), or wasn't interested outside of the War Game movie (Original Dub).

SanoBaron 11-21-2015 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AgileSiamang7 (Post 576371)
Because despite being the guy who bears "the Crest of Friendship"...

He treated Joe like dirt in the episode WereGururumon showed up, believing that the guy most frightened by the world they're stuck in and one of the most vocal about getting out is sabotaging their chances of leaving the diner they're stuck working in because he's more afraid of the guy in charge than of the idea of leaving. Joe gets scared, sure, but he isn't that kind of guy. A real friend would know that without treating him like shit.

He agrees along with everyone else to return to the Digital World to fight the Dark Masters in the first place, no one forced him too (besides the tractor beam in the sky, anyway), but when T.K. gets kidnapped he acts like this was all Tai's idea and that it's his fault T.K.'s in trouble, calling it "his war" and such nonsense. No one else acts out this way but the "Child of Friendship". When T.K. escapes on his own, he runs away feeling like shit and comes back trying to hurt Tai because a pedo-tree told him too.

Others may hate Matt because of the whole Sora "chose" him stuff from Season 2, but I got over that ages ago when I heard how the original Japanese dub barely had any hint of Tai liking Sora to begin with.

I don't like him because he's an ass, one undeserving of the crest he represents. Tai's brave to a stupid point, Sora's all caring, Izzy's smarter then everyone (a cheap crest to give, but accurate), Joe's reliable, T.K. is a little kid so naturally see the brighter side of most things, and Mimi always speaks her mind. Matt is a wannabe loner who acts cooler than he is. Tai's not perfect or my favorite (that would be Izzy), but he at least acts like his attribute. Matt's a punk.

Gabumon's cool though, which is the one of the few things good about Matt, and it barely has anything to do with him.
okay, I think Matt is a more complicated character than you're giving him credit for.

I mean, the crests dont all reflect the characters entirely, some of them reflect traits they need to learn to have or to overcome the opposite of that trait. like, TK didn't always have hope and Mimi certainly had to earn her sincerity, but I feel Matt is kinda hard to dictate how he is a friend.

yeah, Matt does jump off the deep end, but it's mainly because he's always worried about the little brother he couldn't be with for a good chunk of his life, like how Tai was reckless when Kari got sick, Matt gets emotional if anything happens to TK.

IMO, Matt's crest is meant to be what Matt NEEDS to have, and he did overcome his distrust of Joe during that episode where they were forced to work the restaurant. friendship is a difficult thing to really put into place. it's not always being nice, sometimes it's being honest with them. hell, when Davis had to earn his egg of friendship it was after he and TK had a straight up fight, which friends sometimes do.

Yellow Ranger 11-21-2015 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SanoBaron (Post 576610)
okay, I think Matt is a more complicated character than you're giving him credit for.

I mean, the crests dont all reflect the characters entirely, some of them reflect traits they need to learn to have or to overcome the opposite of that trait. like, TK didn't always have hope and Mimi certainly had to earn her sincerity, but I feel Matt is kinda hard to dictate how he is a friend.

yeah, Matt does jump off the deep end, but it's mainly because he's always worried about the little brother he couldn't be with for a good chunk of his life, like how Tai was reckless when Kari got sick, Matt gets emotional if anything happens to TK.

IMO, Matt's crest is meant to be what Matt NEEDS to have, and he did overcome his distrust of Joe during that episode where they were forced to work the restaurant. friendship is a difficult thing to really put into place. it's not always being nice, sometimes it's being honest with them. hell, when Davis had to earn his egg of friendship it was after he and TK had a straight up fight, which friends sometimes do.
Plus I always got the impression that of the original 7 only Tai and Sora and maybe Joe and Mimi were really friends the rest barely knew and often times only tolerated each other atleast at first anyway.

AgileSiamang7 11-21-2015 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SanoBaron (Post 576610)
okay, I think Matt is a more complicated character than you're giving him credit for.

I mean, the crests dont all reflect the characters entirely, some of them reflect traits they need to learn to have or to overcome the opposite of that trait. like, TK didn't always have hope and Mimi certainly had to earn her sincerity, but I feel Matt is kinda hard to dictate how he is a friend.

yeah, Matt does jump off the deep end, but it's mainly because he's always worried about the little brother he couldn't be with for a good chunk of his life, like how Tai was reckless when Kari got sick, Matt gets emotional if anything happens to TK.

IMO, Matt's crest is meant to be what Matt NEEDS to have, and he did overcome his distrust of Joe during that episode where they were forced to work the restaurant. friendship is a difficult thing to really put into place. it's not always being nice, sometimes it's being honest with them. hell, when Davis had to earn his egg of friendship it was after he and TK had a straight up fight, which friends sometimes do.
I counter this with the fact that Izzy is just smart, on a normal day, and for his Crest to activate Vademon had to literally take his intelligence and curiosity away for him to get it back and power up Kabuterimon.

Mimi is normally sincere, it's just that she used to whine more than be caring at first. Even if T.K. has moments where he is filled with dread, like how Tai can obviously be very scared of the huge monsters going after them, they get over it, and being the opposite of their crests is not a default for them.

Friends may not always be getting along, but for someone who supposed to Represent the idea of Friendship to be that much of an ass while someone like Sora had to be insulted to get self-hating and depressed and Tai had to realize he could die (even though he knew that before Izzy brought up the whole data thing) to start second guessing himself, it doesn't endear him to me.

Matt can be as complicated as the writers like, doesn't change the fact that he's a jackass, whatever his problems may be.

barnstenchfartface 11-23-2015 03:26 AM
Comet Lucifer is such a disappointing, incompetent anime. Today's episode was a "big one" for reveals, but they were so bland, uninspired and impactless...I have lost all my patience for this stupid show. Still four more episodes...

WhiteRanger 11-23-2015 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface (Post 577072)
Comet Lucifer is such a disappointing, incompetent anime. Today's episode was a "big one" for reveals, but they were so bland, uninspired and impactless...I have lost all my patience for this stupid show. Still four more episodes...
It might be just me or me and other dunno witch but I'm enjoying it dunno if it just my taste but I'm having some fun with anime.

Guyver Spawn 11-23-2015 10:05 PM
I watched episodes 1-5 of Ai Tenchi Muyo. The newest Tenchi anime and it's not too bad. The animation is good and it has a lot of funny moments. Overall not bad and I want to check out the rest.

SanoBaron 11-24-2015 01:44 PM
THEY GOT OFF THE BOAT!

I REPEAT!

THEY GOT OFF THE BOAT!
THEY ARE ON LAND!
Berserk is back baby!

SideswipePrime 11-26-2015 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SanoBaron (Post 577424)
THEY GOT OFF THE BOAT!

I REPEAT!

THEY GOT OFF THE BOAT!
THEY ARE ON LAND!
Berserk is back baby!
Really?!?

Anyway...JoJo. Kakyoin is the best...that is all.

ZeoRangerV 11-26-2015 01:14 PM
Finished up Ghost in the Shell: Arise today. It was good, but I have some mixed feelings about the whole thing. You can really feel this was by the same guy as Mardock Scramble, because even though it has all the obvious cyberpunk elements of GitS they feel exactly like they did in Mardock. But hey, I really liked Mardock Scramble until it got weird so whatever.

I really liked how it showed Kusanagi's team coming together with them usually starting up on opposite sides. While I don't have any complaints about the Major's redesign, seeing her so vulnerable after watching the movie and SAC is pretty jarring. I mean I get it - these are essentially her early days and it does make her feel more 'human', but it gets a bit old when she's getting her ghost hacked multiple times each episode.

The art was pretty hit and miss with me too. Everyone seems to have this weird vacant look. Which given the franchise I'm sure was partly intentional, but it still sits with me a little weird.

Now to decide whether I want that Arise Kusanagi Figma...just wish it was the red outfit rather than the stealth suit.


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