The only thing that I like about History of Trunks was that he became SSj after the death of Gohan which work out very well to me. In the manga, Future Turnks was already SSj from the start.

The Bardock TV special to me was enjoyable but I do enjoy DB- better since we get the chance to see the life style of Planet Vegeta in the manga for the first time. Episode of Bardock was garbage and felt like terrible fan fiction. Bardock became SSj over some kid that he never cared about and he can become SSj despite Vegeta who was stronger then him during the Freeza saga was unable to :rolleyes. Episode of Bardock is one of the worst animated movies and specials next to Lord Slug, Bio Broly, DBZ Movie 10 and Super 13 in my opinion.

Looks like Super 17 is getting an OVA in the Dragon Ball Xenoverse game.

Oh god why? I thought Super 17 was one of the worst things in GT. His character was beyond terrible and stupid in my opinion. Super 17 has no personality to him and has no motivation.

The bardock farther of goku special is a good anime origin story for the anime only due to the fact the manga no has it one chapter 0 that feature goku mother gine and bardock in it along the Jaco the galatic police man

Where can I get this manga chapter? Is it written by Toriyama?

Link please?
I need to see this for myself.

I enjoyed Super 17. I was a nice little story saga.

Yes it was written by Toriyama. I may to PM you the link because the site does not allow posting links to comics, movies and games.

I can linkin you to my face book page due to I uploaded it there translated by viz

I always hated the Super 17 saga. I thought the saga was stupid and unoriginal. The whole idea felt like a bad fan fiction since you have Dr. Myuu and Gero making a super powerful version of 17 in Hell. The idea of fusing two #17's into one and making them stronger then Buu or Cell sounds really stupid. I wish they did their own original cyborg in Hell then making a super powerful version #17. Also I hated the idea of villains escaping from Hell since it been done before in Fusion Reborn and the team up episode of Cell & Freeza was terrible in my opinion. The saga has a lot of bad plot holes that make my head hurt.

I consider the Super 17 saga and the Garlic Jr saga to be the worst sagas in the anime in my opinion. The only thing that I liked about Super 17 was design. His design is one of my favorite villain designs in the series.