Originally Posted by FreshToku (Post 748606)

Question while Dark Kiva is still on the mind, but who do people consider the be the definitive Dark Kiva? For me it's the Bat Fangire himself, but I know there are some people who would say Otoya (who I consider Ixa of the past, first and foremost).

(I'm still bitter that Taiga dropped Saga so he could use Kivat the 2nd)

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 748618)

Vulcan definitely IMO. Valkyrie, well... they have the tendency to release only one of two Riders at retail if their style is similar, like how Cross-Z Charge was retail but Grease wasn't.

On the other hand, all of these 4 Zero-One Riders appeared very early and Valkyrie is a special case since she's the first female Rider that is this important since the very beginning of the show. I want to think they are both retail, but logic tells me that Vulcan is retail, Valkyrie the first Web-Exclusive, and that either Horobi or Jin is again retail and the other exclusive.

Only time will tell though.

Originally Posted by Annuga (Post 748628)

At the same time Bandai clearly isn't confident in her seeing as most of her merch is sold togethwr with others

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 748631)

Define most. The Rushing Cheetah Progrise Key comes with the Keyholder, but what else? Her action figure, vinyl, plushy etc. are all sold separately like every other toy from what I’ve seen. Same with the Lighting Hornet Progrise Key.

Originally Posted by FreshToku (Post 748606)

Question while Dark Kiva is still on the mind, but who do people consider the be the definitive Dark Kiva? For me it's the Bat Fangire himself, but I know there are some people who would say Otoya (who I consider Ixa of the past, first and foremost).

(I'm still bitter that Taiga dropped Saga so he could use Kivat the 2nd)

Originally Posted by SengalBoy (Post 748622)

Bat Fangire. Taiga should've reused the Saga powers in the epilogue.