.... Yea but I really want that Cyberman. But I don't know anywhere near me who sells these.

I can probably pick you one up once they're out?

I keep forgetting people on here live there :lol Maybe that can work!

I just love that the Weeping Angel's arm articulation means it can't even weep :lolol

That's probally for the best.

The Toy of an Angel, is itself an Angel

Well I WAS enjoying that a lot but shit, that rumour might actually be true :/

man tonight episode was awesome i really enjoyed it and they way the introduced john jurts doctor was instresting more so that it feel like he not the foggotten 9th he feels more like the actual 13th doctor

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Take away the *'s

EDIT: Put a tag in your post myself to be courteous to the American fans.

thanks dude i copiyed and pasted the part in to a word doc while i was adding the part i want to say

Honestly I found the finale pretty damn disappointing from start to finish.

Although Clara's explanation wasn't a convoluted mess like most of Moffat's ideas we've spent so little time with her I wasn't convinced by her convictions.

The Whispermen did absolutely nothing. River Song was just there. The Great Intelligence did nothing but chew scenery. Was I really supposed to care about John Hurt turning out to be some random incarnation of the Doctor? and my God are the Scooby Gang annoying.

Bleh.

Loved it. The first scene alone is one of the best moments in the show's modern history. The spliced together footage was genius. I'd love to seem them do it again for the 50th, but I think it would be too soon to do it two episodes in a row.

The ending... I actually think the ending has me pumped up for that one thing we've heard that I didn't like the idea of. In execution, though, I really like where this is going. Definitely looking forward to the 50th now.

Nice to see that the second part of season 7 is out on disk soon, but where's my season 7 boxset (complete with the 2011 Christmas special)?

Just watched The Name of the Doctor. And I have one overwhelming thought...


WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER?!?!?!?!?!?!

Rewatched the episode and something about the end occurred to me. Back in his second episode, when he was about to kill the star whale, the Doctor says - and I just looked this up to double check - "Three options. One, I let the Star Whale continue in unendurable agony for hundreds more years. Two, I kill everyone on this ship. Three, I murder a beautiful, innocent creature as painlessly as I can. And then I find a new name 'cause I won't be The Doctor anymore."

Interesting. Coincidence or intentional foreshadowing?

Coincedence. I don't think Moffat things that far ahead :lol

Or plans anything at all...

I managed to avoid spoilers somehow so I enjoyed that ending quite a bit. Though I totally got the feeling it was meant to be the 12th Doctor, not that weird 9th rumor. Though then again it's unlikely they'll get John Hurt for season or more of episodes.

Also did I miss it, or did they not really say the Doctor's name?

They got out of it by having River say it off camera.

They didn't actually and thank goodness for that.

My problem with John Hurt being the 12th is that how would the 11th know? Unless he did peek into the future when he dove into his time... scar... thing. I've already seen people guessing he's the Valeyard... which I looked up since I didn't know who that was at all. But yeah, evil spawn of the Doctor. It could maybe work?

Then I remembered they specifically said "John Hurt as THE DOCTOR." Despite Matt Smith just having said he wasn't known as that. Which is more confusing. So yeah.

This wait's gonna suck haha.

If he is the Valeyard then shouldn't the final regeneration be in there with all the other regenerations since his form was like a weird bridge.

Oh man that was amazing. It's going to be a LONG 6 months.

I saw that, if that's all it was that's pretty cheap. They hyped that up so much they should've come up with a better dodge than that.

Not that I ever expected them to reveal the name. I like Moffat Dr Who better than Russell T Davies Dr Who but the constant bait and switch has gotten incredibly tiresome.

I heard a theory about John Hurt's Doctor. I like it, and am sharing it here.

John Hurt isn't some future incarnation of the Doctor. But a one from his Past. One that he is so ashamed of he keeps it burried deep inside of himself, so deep and so buried that merely remembering him causes the Doctor to hurt.

He is the Doctor which did the unthinkable. He is the Doctor that locked the Medusa Cascade, entrapt the Daleks and Time Lords alike within an everlasting loop of death.

He is the Doctor that ended the Time War.

That's just the rumor from that British tabloid isn't it? It sort of makes sense on the face of it I guess but didn't the later Doctors remember doing all that?

WHOA THAT WAS AWESOME!!! I have not had an "Oh crap!" moment this loud in the entire New Series!

I have to give Moffat credit, that's the second series in a row where that I've found average at best, the set up for the finale has been something I've found eyeroll inducing (A wife/his name) and yet I've come away really enjoying the final episode. Perhaps more proof that I enjoy Moffat-Who in smaller doses.

Out of curiousity, how would you guys rate the newer series'? For me it would probably be 1, 5, 4, 3 and then 2, 6 and 7 tied at the bottom.

Pretty hard, this. I don't think I'd be able to rate individual series but 5 is definitely my top.

Well, 5 is just hands down the best year of Doctor Who ever. After that I'd say 4, 1, and 2. Series 3 had some good moments, but was very inconsistent; same with 6. Series 7 I'm going to wait and rank after I get the box set and can see it all without the big gap in the middle. The specials year ranks at the bottom for me.

I don't even acknowledge the specials year :lol

Hmm, if we're counting the specials year then that will be at the bottom of the pile for me too. The only one from that year I thought was superb was The Waters of Mars. I liked The End of Time, but it was flawed, in my opinion.

Waters of Mars ranks as one of my all time favourite David Tennant episodes, but even that can't save the specials "season" as a whole.

And even Waters of Mars has some moments that make me want to bang my head against the wall. The big problem with the specials was that Russel T Davies was so far up his own ass by this point that everything was just ridiculous, repetitive, and self-indulgent.

It's been a while but here's the next review! Enjoy, or the Whisper Men will attack you and do nothing!

Season 1 Episodes 1-4: An Unearthly Child- 23/11/13-14/12/63

The Doctor and his granddaughter abduct two teachers and take them back to caveman times. They make fire.

Plot
We open on a policeman in a junkyard. The camera follows him until we land on an object; a police box, humming slightly, fully fixed and not junk at all. We cut to two teachers, Ian Chesterton and Barbara Wright. They are talking about their student, Susan Foreman. She is brilliant at some times, but knows nothing about others (she think's Britain's on the decimal system :lolol). Barbara gives her a book on the French Revolution, and we see her. She seems like an ordinary teenage girl, with a couple of strange point, like when she says she'll finish the book tonight.

Ian and Barbara follow her home to a junkyard. They go inside, and hear her voice, following it to a police box and an Old Man. He won't let them enter the box and is antagonistic towards them. They threaten to get a policeman and almost set off, until Susan comes out of the box. They force their way inside, against the protest of the old man, to find themselves in a large white room, with a strange machine in the centre. It's revealed to be the TARDIS- Time And Relative Dimension In Space- and the old man is revealed to be the Doctor - "Doctor Who?", asks Ian. The Doctor locks the doors and sets the controls against the wishes of Susan, Ian and Barbara. The machine emits a horrible noise, and we cut to the outside of the machine in a different place. With a caveman outside.

The travellers leave the machine, with Susan expressing surprise at the exterior of the TARDIS-it hasn't changed, which it usually does. The Doctor leaves the TARDIS to explore, lights his pipe, and gets knocked out by a caveman, who just saw the man create fire, which none of them can do. He brings him back to a cave with leadership problems - Za is the son of the last leader, but can't make fire, while Kal, a foreigner from another place, boasts he should be leader. Kal is winning over the tribe because of his prowess of killing for food. The Doctor awakes and starts mumbling about how he's an old man and can't hurt them, rushing towards them. He says he can make fire, but then realises he doesn't have his lighter, and can't. Ian, Barbara and Susan show up and try to save him, but are soon enough overpowered by caveman. The caveman decide to lock them in the Cave OF SKULLS!!! in order to kill them to make the sun rise.

They escape when an old caveman lady frees them through a back exit and they flee through the forest, Za in hot pursuit. He gets attacked by a boar, but Ian and Barbara save him, tending to his wounds and putting him on a makeshift stretcher so they can carry him back to the TARDIS and heal him there. At the Caveman's cave, Kal arrives and kills the old lady for freeing the travellers. He seizes leadership of the tribe in Za's absence and take over the tribe to capture the group. And it happens just as the group is really close to the TARIDS.

They are returned to a hostile tribe, but the Doctor reinstates Za as leader by tricking Kal into showing the tribe his bloody knife, showing he killed Old CaveLady. This leads them to chase him out. Za shows the travellers amazing gratitude by locking them back in a cave and threatening to kill them unless they give him fire. :eyebrow Ian makes fire for Za using a stick and dry leaves. Unfortunately, his attempts to convince Za to share the secret don't work, and he decides to immediately show everyone. Kal arrives and tries to kill Za, but he gets killed himself after a long wrestling match! Za shows everyone the fire, which ensures he is leader. He announces the travellers are to become part of his tribe, and leaves them in the cave. They escape by using skulls on sticks and rush back the TARDIS. This time, they escape. The Doctor comes clean, and reveals to Ian and Barbara that he can't fly the TARDIS, or rather, the codes are still a secret. He was aiming for 1963, but ends up on a strange, wasted world. They leave the TARDIS after making sure the radiation levels are fine. Of course, just as they leave, the radiation meter starts to work and shows danger levels! We end on a cliffhanger! The plot of the first episode is well spaced, and fills out nicely, but afterwards the caveman plot can sometimes feel a bit slow. 6/10

Characters
The First Doctor seems strange to us now, but back then we had no one else to compare him to. He is well portrayed as a grumpy, unhelpful old man and completely different to the Doctor's we know today. Susan gets practically no development, but Ian and Barbara gets some. They go from constantly rejecting everything the Doctor says to semi-trusting him, and by the end, Ian accepts the Doctor as the leader of the group. 7/10

Scare Factor
Nothing too bad by todays standards, but the Cave of SKULLS!! could be creepy. 3/10

Favourite Quote: "Did you ever wonder what it's like to be wanderers in the fourth dimension?"- First Doctor

Overall
Overall, this episode is OK. I'm sure you expect me to say better, but it really is just OK, maybe on the good side. The caveman story is sort of interesting, but compared to action episodes today, this episode has nothing stand out. If Doctor Who had been permanently historical based, it wouldn't have run as long as it did. But next episode changes all that...

I liked those Specials, honestly. Waters of Mars, and End of Time, especially.

Am I the only one who hated water on mars? Wow....

I've already done the epic "why I hate End of Time" rant in this thread, so we shall have to agree to disagree there :lol

How so? Not that there's anything wrong with disliking it, I'm just genuinely curious.

I missed it, how far back in the thread is it?

Page number three. Have fun!

I disagree... with completely everything you said in that Rant. I'd adisgaree with the word The if I could find a way to. Not going to stop me from trying.

Feel free to disagree, most other people do :lol