Originally Posted by Librarian (Post 723250)

The terminator/rebel fighter approach for Geiz seems expected. So that story should work fine. Kind of figured they'd go for the rebel fighter approach with it being interrupted and explained there's other ways to change the future.



Not surprising, but I do expect that some aspects are going to surprise viewers later. So don't get too arrogant with that "men only for kamen rider leads" attitude.

There are a lot of little things involved in this one thematically that made it more cumbersome to do it that way.

But that checkbox is still on the way to be checked off. That's one thing you can count on Rider/Sentai about. They work off of check boxes entirely for themes and concepts.

When you look at the base concept of this, you can see why a woman lead wouldn't work for the rider that well. But the sub-tones of power corruption, and the 'guidance by a young woman from the future to correct history' as well as what appears to be a learning from other riders what it means to be king, same as the young woman is pushing to teach, all seems to suggest Toei is fully aware of the damage males unchecked or spoiled by power can cause. Which is seemingly something they want to highlight here about dreams of grandeur.

That kind of awareness still fits the concerns of those "check boxes" you deride, and hint at a future series possibly taking the turn instead for a new lead rider where the story is more fitting for it. The more we learned about the story, the more it sounded like that was a lot of why they may have decided against it for this one. Still interesting that it was discussed which means it may be an upcoming thing soon for a new series. They've been rather progressive with various areas as it is with W having more representation and showing various styles of clothing as okay, and Wizard itself being open to having transgender characters. Pretty Cure seems to be starting to dabble more into introducing the potential of a make princess as well as other representation. So I really wouldn't shoehorn the Rider series to a "males only!" kind of mentality for the leads. This feels like an intentional sub-build to prep for the transition for a series.

Also interesting is the side details with the "Timejackers" which factors into whether or not future Zi-O is actually past Zi-O too.

Does feel like a mix of Den-O, Kiva, and Decade from the pitch so far, but let's see how the series develops. Having nods to previous in theme isn't an inherently bad thing, it's all a matter of how that's applied.

Does feel like a waste because of timing, but that's mostly because of Kyoko Okada's 80th birthday being this year and it conveniently landing on a Sunday. So there were a lot of little things that conflicted in theme choice behind what's being covered. Which is kind of a shame, but they may still have some surprises up their sleeve for that.



Those rumors about the process of the decisions were a little more accurate than you may realize. But decisions also change based on how themes and story develops. Zi-O may have been a last minute pitch pivot to prep for future things. Where instead other ideas were on the board at first but didn't seem quite right for an end of an era series, and fit more to a "beginning of an era" series for later. Keep in mind we've got several anniversaries coming back to back right here.



Not as expensive as you might think. It's about on par to OOO and Build, or somewhere between there. Maybe roughly Gaim budget levels or Ex-Aid. Nothing pushed so far seems any more pricey than what they've already done from Den-O on up, and those costs of those effects are getting easier and cheaper to do too, which is why we've seen the increase of them used in Sentai.

They can't over extend the budget too bad as yet, too many back to back anniversaries coming up. So this may have more planning involved for a larger arc tied to that, with more surprises still to come.

Originally Posted by henshinzero (Post 723300)

No references of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time Trilogy either in Zi-O?

Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura (Post 723321)

My question is if we'll get Another Another Agito

Originally Posted by Sunred (Post 723341)

Is it just me or is the cliff area where Zi-O uses Build's powers the same filming location where Decade massacred all the riders?

Originally Posted by MnemonicSyntax (Post 723342)

Also the same cliff from that Boukenger special with AkaRed.