Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 665617)

What was your first Gundam show?

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 665631)

I heard it from a guy on a another website that got his info from 4chan apparently they've also been checking Toonami's ratings too which is where IBO's bleeding viewers was revealed.

EDIT: and looking at Toonami's ratings for two weeks of November myself IBO's ratings do drop:

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 665639)

Like a lot of people, Wing for me as well. I had limited Knowledge of G Gundam as the show and toys barely existed where I lived, I liked the SD toys but found the show odd and not my thing. I had only the vaguest knowledge of SEED and then dropped out of it completely until about a year and a half/two years ago.

Well, the Toonami ratings aren't really what's important. I was talking actual Japanese ratings.

Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 665617)

What was your first Gundam show? I knew about Gundam before Wing air on Toonami since I grew up going to Japanese collector shops and comic book shops that had anime merchandise in the 90's. In 1999, I saw half of a episode of Turn A Gundam fan subbed at local comic book shop. However like most people around my age, Gundam Wing was the first Gundam show that I truly watched.

I'm a casual Gundam fan, so I grew up with Wing, G, the original TV show, SD Gundam Force, War in the Pocket, Seed and 00 on American TV (I also saw Seed Destiny when it came out too). I also did watch Zeta Gundam on a fan subbed VHS tapes in 2002, making it the first Gundam show I saw in Japanese from start to finish.

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 665640)

Well the info apparently comes from 4chan so take it as you will.

EDIT: I found this from Reddit it goes into details though it is almost a year old:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comm..._good/d0a30er/

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 665664)

Well that's a shame. I think the one theory that following Build Fighters which was very kid-friendly and flashy and filled with excessive mobile suits and action scenes with a far slower, headier show that puts story before action and MS fights is what's turning away younger viewers.

I mean, it's no secret that quality and popularity are often opposites (just look at the top grossing box office movies... then consider suicide) but it's sad that such a cynical, transparent show like Build Fighters does better ratings wise than, well, something good.

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 665667)

...How is Build Fighters cynical?

Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 665617)

What was your first Gundam show?

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 665668)

Because it's literally a toy commercial. Like, the Mobile Suits are all actual toys in-universe, that people buy. It's amongst the likes of Beyblade, YuGiOh, etc where the product is actually product in the show.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 665668)

Because it's literally a toy commercial. Like, the Mobile Suits are all actual toys in-universe, that people buy. It's amongst the likes of Beyblade, YuGiOh, etc where the product is actually product in the show.

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 665673)

...The entire franchise is literally a toy commercial Build Fighters knows it and runs and has fun with it instead of being an overly-pretentious anti-war screed like 90% of Gundam.