Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 866490)

Let me rephrase: Die Hard was when the Invincible Hero trope really started to become a thing of the past in Hollywood. Elsewhere in the world it was much less common, true, but in American cinema (and Italian knockoffs thereof), the trope was alive and well right up to about the 90s.

Originally Posted by DH21965 (Post 866478)

He was not awesome in his movies and was a sexual predator/serial abuser who also made the very very very bad mistake of being a douchenozzle to Mr Judo Gene Lebell, who choked his arrogant flabby flailing arse to sleep, not just once, but twice and made him crap/pee his pants, and then, in douchenozzle fashion, tried to SUE HIM, but his lawyers( and MANY in the stunt/martial arts community) convinced him that the discovery portion of the lawsuit will show how a 70PLUS year old Grandfather wearing a Pink Gi choked out Mr Action Hero.
There is just SO MUCH MORE TRASH to this guy, it?s why he ran to Russia to avoid the inevitable consequences of his sexual assaulting behavior

Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 866480)

As an example, I immediately remember films with Van Damme. Also with Dacascos and Don "The Dragon" Wilson. To a lesser extent, but it also happened with Lundgren. Albeit in a humorous way, Jackie Chan began to practice this trope almost before anyone else. Snipes in the Blade trilogy also received punches in the final fights. Yes, perhaps this is more true in films about martial arts than in action films with an emphasis on shootouts, in which Schwarzenegger and Stallone starred. And I'm not sure if Die Hard fits into this trope, because Willis suffers throughout the entire film.

Originally Posted by EpsilonX (Post 866511)

Ah that makes more sense. My taste in 80s action movies tends to be the big guys with big guns type. I do like Jackie Chan, though my experience with him is mostly limited to Police Story and Rush Hour, which may not be the best examples.

Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 866518)

I don't think I've seen the fourth though.

Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 866531)

The Internet claims that there are 9 films in this series.

Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 866591)

Speaking of Sammo Hung, who remembers "Martial Law", his TV series from the late 90s?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...artial_Law.jpg

Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 866518)

Try checking out the Line of Duty series. No Jackie Chan, but the first two have Michelle Yeoh and damn if that's not appealing in its own way. She's replaced by Cynthia Kahn in 3 and 4 but she's no slouch by any means.

Also the first one has Cynthia Rothrock co-starring, second has Hiroyuki Sanada, and third has Hongo himself, Hiroshi Fujioka. I don't think I've seen the fourth though.

Originally Posted by Sunred (Post 866575)

My first Jackie Chan movies were, if I recall, Drunken Master 1, Drunken Master 2, Meals on Wheels, and Dragons Forever. This particular scene from Dragons Forever was what drawed me into Jackie Chan when I was a kid. Fun fact, his co-stars in this scene, Sammo Hung and Yuen Biao, were the inspirations for Elehan Kinpo and Pyon Pyou in Gekiranger respectively.