Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 225509)

Another episode of Kiva down.

I think Waturu is going to break down and cry when Megumi and Nago discover he's Kiva. And I'll feel sad about that.. Waturu's trying! LEAVE HIM ALONE!
I tell you this though. Spider-Fangire, Sheep-Fangire, that Chef one... These Fangire are creepy little bastards. Between Spider's obsession, Sheep's pervertness, and whatever Chef is doing in that pot.. Yegawd.
And I do like how they handle powerups. How whatever arm he uses changes color, and the melding of the Fangire's head with his own.

Kiva has alot of beautiful visuals. I'm very much enjoying myself with this series.

Originally Posted by algo448 (Post 225510)

Up to this day I find the Fangire to be amongst the creepiest Rider monsters ever, all of them are able to assume human form, they are resilient as heck and they need to feed on humans permanently, doesn't help that most of them are complete psychos.

The visuals of Kiva are great, and his main 4 forms are a simply beautiful, different enough from each other withouth feeling like completely different riders.

Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 225511)

Them and the Grongi from Kuuga are the top two creepiest for me personally. Grongi are creepy in and out of Monster form, and Fangire's are just really really creepy in human form.

Exactly. And the Finishing Visuals for each of them are works of art. Each and every one.

Originally Posted by algo448 (Post 225510)

Up to this day I find the Fangire to be amongst the creepiest Rider monsters ever, all of them are able to assume human form, they are resilient as heck and they need to feed on humans permanently, doesn't help that most of them are complete psychos.

The visuals of Kiva are great, and his main 4 forms are a simply beautiful, different enough from each other withouth feeling like completely different riders.

Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 225511)

Them and the Grongi from Kuuga are the top two creepiest for me personally. Grongi are creepy in and out of Monster form, and Fangire's are just really really creepy in human form.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 225429)

Same. That is, it was satisfying without me having to ignore any succeeding event in the show itself.

It's like, lots of Kamen Rider series can have satisfying conclusions, but then do something to lessen it at the last moment, like they're under some kind of contract to leave things open-ended to some degree? I guess so they can appear in movies later without much time spent re-establishing how it's possible. Without spoiling, IMO W should have, and indeed looks to be designed, to have ended on 48. Everything about it just makes that a perfect moment of closure. But then 49 basically returns things to "normal" which isn't bad per-se, but I always say 49 should have been a movie in place of Eternal Returns. That way they could have thgeir return to status quo without under-cutting the effects of 48. A tie-in/sequel movie is less detrimental to a TV series and the plot of 49 could have been made more dramatic and built up verses one episode of self-contained retconning.