Animaniacs didn't do any violent fighting, and what violence it had was slapstick.
Gargoyles was apparently Disney.
IDK about BW so I won't argue about that
Batman could have aired on a different timeslot, as timeslots also need to be taken in account. You're not going to run a gory or violent show right after sesamestreet (Though we Dutchies had a riot when they had a vaginal cream advertisement IMMEDIATELY after sesamestreet) not to mention the studio might have limited what the animators could do. Wolverine was only allowed to use claws on Sentinels in the Xmen show back then too. There are more factors than just 'the channel it was on'

Batman TAS aired at prime time originally and Gargoyles was syndicated.

I have no clue what Prime time is, and I also mentioned it might be the directors for the shows themselves as Marvel's shows were significantly more censored in those aspects.



MEANWHILE BATMAN BEYOND CENSORED JOKER'S DEATH MAKING IT 50 TIMES MORE GRUESOME
Not trying to make a Marvel vs DC thing, but Batman Beyond was something Marvel simply couldn't compete to. Spiderman Unlimited didn't even get a second season iirc

Late afternoon-night timeslot think around 5-7ish PM.

In that case, Batman aired quite late, meaning they could get away with more stuff, unlike an 4PM show

Yup and Gargoyles was syndicated it aired on more than just Fox.

And BW probably got away with it because they're robots.

Probably the case as again, Wolverine was only allowed to use his claws on Sentinels, not humans/mutants. Kain, I don't want to be rude, but I think you should look into the examples you want to bring up because otherwise stuff like this can happen again and again

I remember Gargoyles would air on a timeslot that would air after school like 2:00 PM or 3:00 PM. Spider-Man and the other Marvel shows I remember airing early in the mornings on Saturdays.

Where's that Yu-Gi-Oh abridged clip where Melvin goes "Robots! I can do all the violence I want and it'll still be Pg-13!" That's basically what applies here.

Meanwhile I'm still slogging my way through Ultimate (still on season one) and keep thinking "man I wish this was more like the 90s show. It didn't need constant cut away gags and just told a story."

That's odd, When I saw Ultimate, I ended up thinking "Man, I wish this was more like the Ultimate comics" :p

Meanwhile, when I saw Ultimate, all I could think to myself was "Man, they really pulled off a good Taskmaster."

BTAS aired Sat mornings at 11AM and weekdays at 4:30PM for its first six months. Then it aired at 9AM on Sat mornings and 7:30AM for weekdays. Then we had it air at 3:30PM on weekdays and the Sat morning timeslot moved up to 10AM then down to 8:30AM.

Gargoyles aired at 6AM first its first season on Fridays, then at 5:30PM for its second season's first two months on weekdays before going to 7:30AM weekdays. It also aired at 11AM and 9:30AM on Sat mornings.

Beast Wars started at 8:30AM on weekdays, aired its second season on Sundays at 7:30AM, and then the third season was shown on Sats at 7:30AM and weekdays at 8:00AM.

Spider-Man aired at 11AM on Sat mornings and then it had 3:30PM showings on weekdays.

In that case it was probably the studio that limited Spidey, as the same studio did the same for Xmen

X-Men - I haven't watched this one since 2009 and that's because it just isn't that great of a movie. The plot is rather boring and the action is very uninspiring. Not to mention Cyclops and Storm have no purpose being in this thing because they do absolutely nothing to further the plot. In fact, Scott comes off as just a glorified jerk who can't even convey a lick of emotion while Storm is just a tool. She is one of my favorite X-Men characters and this movie treats her like a third string character. Hell, the longest moment she speaks has her spouting some stupid ass line. In fact, this movie might as well have been called "Wolverine and His Merry Band of X-Men." I also don't care for how very little it even considers the source material. Magneto would NEVER sacrifice an innocent mutant just to further his ambitions, not to mention Mystique has no relation to Rogue one bit, Sabertooth is just some lame goon and they completely wasted their potential to do something worthwhile with Kelly and Geirich in future installments. Overall, the music is by far the best thing about this movie as Kamen's score kicks total ass that also feels very reminscent to the amazing theme song the 90s cartoon featured. Now I do give them credit for a first attempt at a live action X-Men movie, so I'm giving it a lenient 7/10.

X-Men 2 - A vast improvement over the first movie as it tries to fix a lot of its issues. Unfortunately, in doing so, it also creates a few contracitions to the first movie. Also, it pretty much remains The Wolverine Show as Scott continues to be reduced to nothing more than an emotionless jackass. At least Storm got a good scene this time around despite her voice being different. The plot dealing with Stryker is well done as Brian Cox does a phenomenal job portraying the character (last week I read God Loves, Man Kills and even with Stryker being a preacher I heard Cox's voice coming from him). Lady Deathstrike is quite useless and we don't even get Mastermind called by his code name. Oh, and those colorless costumes need to go. They are terrible and I forgot how allergic to color Fox was in the beginning. Then again, they still haven't changed much, but at least the First Class uniforms looked like X-Men costumes. Anyway, there are a lot of great moments to be found here even if it isn't that greatest X-Men movie as it was once believed. It has certainly aged far better than its predecessor and the travesty that came after it. It's a shame that they rushed right into the Phoenix story without any sort of development though. It would have been much better to actually develop Jean's powers over the course of several movies instead of just, "She feels very powerful and now she sacrifices herself to come back as Phoenix." Magneto also feels more natural this time around and I love how he easily manipulates Pyro without any effort. In the end, I give this movie a 8/10.

Okay, but I think Saban play a role when it came to censorship for Spider-Man seeing that Saban did produced X-Man, Spider-Man and a few others for Fox Kids. I remember Saban was very strict with violence (Remember when MMPR was limited with stuff like death?).

I don't understand why Spidey got censored so hard in so many shows :lol
Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, then the 90's show, and then the MTV show (Anyone remember the "No one older than 25 rule" for that show? :p)

...Anyone remember that show in general? o-o

Was that the CGI one with Silver Sable? If so, I watched the first episode and that was enough for me.

I remember the MTV Spider-Man series. It was the last Spider-Man show I watched. I never saw the other recent animated Spider-Man shows.

Yep, that's the one.
I've seen about 4 episodes. Apparently, there are 13 of them.
Good luck to anyone who wants to watch them all :lol

Poor bastard. Spectacular Spider-Man is a good show, and Ultimate Spider-Man...It's alright.

Spectacular is a must watch. It's the greatest Spider-Man cartoon ever, which is why it only last 26 episodes. The show is based directly off the Lee/Ditko era of Spider-Man just with some of the modern concepts added to it and a continuous flow of plot. Not just that, but the voice actor for Revolver Ocelot voices Peter, which is awesome.

The sad part is Greg had planned the show to be 65 episodes with the final episode being their high school graduation and then he was going to continue the college years in direct to video movies.

X-Men 3 - Man, I forgot just how bad this movie is. They couldn't get anything right at all. From the poorly done CGI to make Charles and Magneto look younger in the flashback scene to screwing up the love story for Rogue and Iceman (by adding Kitty into a forced romance that goes nowhere even though she is suppsoed to go out with Colossus), a Colossus who isn't even Russian, Juggernaut not even being related to Xavier, and then Magneto just sacrificing all of his brothers because reasons. What the hell? Did Brett Ratner even read an X-Men comic in his life? This whole movie plays out as if it were some poorly written fanfiction from a guy who say the toys on the shelves and that was it. Oh yeah, and then there is what is supposed to be Phoenix, but she doesn't even turn into a phoenix or even actually really do anything but stand there and stare blankly into the camera. Was Famke even there for filming or did they just have a mannequin of her in the movie and paid her for her likeness? Overal, this giant turd is absolutely terrible and is made even worse when you start identifying who each of the mutant fodder is. Psylocke, Callisto, Flea, WHAT THE HELL?! I give this crap a 4/10 all because Beast was the best thing in the movie.

I remember when X-Men 3 was first revealed, and people thought the quiet red head constantly standing by Magneto and doing nothing was actually Scarlet Witch :lol

lol


X-Men Origins - Jesus, the guy that edited this movie must have been the same person that would go on to edit Suicide Squad because the editing is a nightmare. The camera angles are always changing and the plot doesn't make any sense. Why the hell would Sabertooth be brothers to Logan but not know who he is in the original movie? How did Scott get his ruby quartz glasses when he hadn't met Charles yet? THere are tons of more plot holes, but I'm not going to put in any effort to spout them because that is more effort than the people who made this movie put into it. The effects are down right awful from horrible looking CGI to explosions that don't even make sense. How does a farm house get a missile into it and then blow up 5 times over? This movie is so poorly written that even Joel Schumacher would be like, "Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn, son!" Not only is this the worst X-Men related movie ever (Generation X from the 90s was a better movie), but it is right there with Eilektra as the worst movies based on a Marvel property ever. And who ever thought Barakapool was a smart idea needs to be smacked in the head. Lastly, the acting is atrocious, especially from the likes of Gambit and Silverfox. How they were able to continue a career after this mess is beyond me, but they are what ruined John Carter of Mars. I'm thinking this is a 2/10 movie because it does have two good moments, Silverfox dying alone and forgotten (like this movie deserves to be) and the moment the credits start rolling.

Also, I finished the first volume of Inferno. Things definitely got better as it went on, although I'm still confused on a few areas. The X-Terminators issues were quite good, as were the two New Mutants issues in the book. I'm going to have to find a way to actually read that series in order at some point because there are a few things I'm sure would make more sense if I could. The X-Factor issues were also pretty good while the two X-Men issues were excellent. On the other hand, the Power Pack story was just flat out boring. Thankfully there is only one PP issue in Volume 2, so I don't have to suffer through them too much longer. I honestly have no idea why these cards are being included in the X crossover titles when they aren't even mutants. Also, if NYC is under attack by demons, where the hell are Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, DareDevil, Punisher, the Fantastic Four, etc? It seems odd that they would just ignore things like trash piling up, machines turning into demons, buildings growing, and stuff.

I love it, I love it. It's a good mix of the good things of Johnny Blaze and Robbie Reyes into one character. I really like this version of Ghost Rider for the MCU, I still love Johnny Blaze as my Ghost Rider, but this will do for now.

Here's hoping a Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider netflix series could ever come to life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydl0_ObqgPg

Gotta find that episode.
And I, too, am hoping for the possible Netflix series.

So I finished Inferno last night and overall, it was on convoluted cluster****. That isn't to say I didn't enjoy it, because I did, but it was way overly complicated than it needed to be and like I said before, X-Men and demons don't mix very well, especially on a grand scale as this. This storyline should have been centered around the super natural characters like Ghost Rider and Doctor Strange while the X-Men and X-Factor only dealt with Madelynn and Mr Sinister. It also doesn't help matters that they never explain how S'ym came back (Magick killed her before she took on Belasco in her miniseries), what this techno organic virus is, and then N'astirh (can't even pronounce the damn thing) died like 8 different times throughout the series, all in diferent ways.

Breaking the stories down though:

New Mutants - I really enjoyed these three issues a lot. Although, having Magick restored to a child feels like a cop out and throws all every single bit of development she had over the several years leading up to this storyline out the window. In addition, what happened to the old ones that Belasco was using Magick to free? Why do we have N'astirh and S'ym over Dagon and Cthulhu?

X-Terminators - The issues seem to take forever to get through, but I enjoyed them. Taki really had some nice development going from a little selfish brat to legimiately wanting to save the world. I also loved the cast of misfits we had here with Skids, Boom Boom, Rusty, and Rictor. If I recall, some of these characters joint X-Factor when it is created. Although, I don't know if Taki ever shows up again in the series outside of one episode of the animated show. I did like how N'astirh combined technology and organic together. All it was missing was the Key to Vector Sigma. :-p

Now I also really digged the crossover these two series had, but as mentioned above, they both changed how N'astirh was killed, even though it was pointless because he still came back.

Power Pack - I don't care for this comic at all because they are so boring. The Boogeyman stuff dragged on and on, but the ending to it was kind of touching. I guess the way the parents responded to their kids being heroes makes sense, but it seems like they just totally gave up being parents without any effort.

X-Men/X-Factor - It was so strange how only the X-Men issues used the part numbers for the story line, especially when the X-Factor issues were part of the story and you couldn't just read one without the other, but whatever. The X-Men were very out of character and it was never explained why or how. I'm assuming their personalities were under the demon influence, but how? Oh, and Alex just ups and stops caring about Polaris for Madelynn? COME ON!!! Madelynn was a cool villain and I want a Marvel Legends figure of her now, but the highlight to me was Mr Sinister. Although, it was never explained why Scott was the only one whose powers effect him, I guess that will come up in a future story. N'astirh was all over the place here as he died several times again and kept coming back, which was quite vexing. I'm not even sure he actually died died now that I think of it. He just left.

The stuff taken from the X-Factor annual was kind of dumb though. I mean, it has two FBI agents going around trying to get to the truth and then Scott tells them it was a hallucination. Are you kidding me? That was so stupid!!

Oh, and the final issue in the book for X-Factor was good, but they never told me who the hell Nanny and Orphan Maker are. No, I don't mean who their real personas are, I mean WHO they are as villains. Where did they come from? Who are they working for? Why are they stealing children and hypnotizing them? They appeared early on in the series without any background at all. They are just there. Oh yeah, and Cameron Hodge seems to have just been forgotten.

Cloak & Dagger - Why did they choose to finish this series off in a random C&D issue that was already in the middle of a story, and one that ends on a cliff hanger at that? That was down right stupid. It didn't feel like it was a conclusion.

Excalibur - This was an interesting harmless tale. I liked how Captain Britain was turned into an 80s action hero and then Freddy Kreuger. In fact, the movie bit was cool. Phoenix being turned into a mannequin was weird, but my favorite bit was when the gargoyle and Nightcrawler became friends. Megan is my least favorite of the group, so I couldn't careless that they turned her into Madelynn-Lite.

Well, that brings an end to what was in the books. I am saddened it didn't have the Spider-Man issues that dealt with Hobgoblin, but that's okay, I'm sure I'll come across those issues in a Spider-Man collection or something eventually. Inferno itself was entetaining, but as I said previously, majorly convoluted. Way too complicated for its own good with several inconsistencies. I'm glad I did not buy these paperbacks because it would not be worth double dipping later on for the hardcovers. However, there is no way in hell the hardcover is worth $300, so I hope that Marvel will eventually either reissue it or just put it into an X-Men Omnibus (with the letters pages intact), even if they juts do the X-Men/X-Factor storyline in that book.

Now to jump like another 30 issues as I start reading the second Claremont/Lee Omnibus.

My favorite Ghost Rider was Robbie, so I'm pretty happy they went with him.

It'll be released on ABC's website one week after the premiere.

So 27th or 28th.

Already found it, but thanks anyway :lol

The Wolverine - Well this movie certainly made up for that Origins crap. The first 2/3rds of this movie is really nicely done, the story is interesting (and feels reminiscent to the Claremont/Miller mini series from the 80s), the characters are really well written thanks to the small cast, and some of the cinematography is excellent. The scene when Wolverine is battling Mariko's father just looks gorgeous thanks to its blue lighting. In fact, so does the entire scene beforehand when the ninjas are taking out the Yashida guards. Unfortunately, everything that happens after Wolverine wakes up from all of the arrows that were stuck in him is where the movie falls apart. The final villain was lame as hell and they totally under utilized Viper. Not to mention the bone clone bit at the end was just terrible. It does a nice little lead in for Days of Future Past, but it is kind of a shame that this movie no longer exists in the canon, but oh well, that's what happens when you have too many cooks in the kitchen. I give The Wolverine an 8/10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjAbXrvkFw

I can listen to this ALL. DAY.

I prefer the opening song we got, but I would be pretty pissed off if I'm watching teh show for the first time, I see that beautifully animated opening and then the show starts and the animation suddenly looks like it was made on a $2 budget.

I want to know where that Alien Brood was compared to those green cockroaches we got in one episode (which is also one of the worst episodes of the show).

Currently on episode 2 of Luke Cage, and I'm enjoying it so far.

I'm going to start it tomorrow when our friends are over. We're not going to be binging it like JJ and DD though because we have a ton of other stuff to watch at the same time.

A lot of animated shows had better looking intros than the actual TV shows.

Well I just finished the Claremont/Lee Omnibus I was reading and can I just say that the final issues were utter dog shit?

First off, the Omega Red story. This one was not bad despite Andrea Strucker's Powergirl costume's boob window kept changing directions. Sometimes it was a triangle pointing downward, sometimes it was pointing upward. The worst was when it changed on the same page. I did enjoy learning a bit more of Wolverine's origin despite it feeling like there was something I missed in the issues I wasn't able to read. Omega Red is just as cool a villain as I remember. Maverick was as lame as ever though. Never been a fan of him. Finally, it would have been nice if Wolverine had explained why he was back in the yellow costume. Everytime the X-Men had a costume change in the comics before they always made some type of comment on the new look, so to not have one here was kind of lame.

Then we have a story that is supposed to develop Gambit, but then Ghost Rider comes into play and it turns out the Brood is involved. WHAT THE ******************************************************!!! Not only did Ghost Rider feel completely out of place, but the Brood felt forced in as if the writers needed some last minute plot twist. Heaven forbid it couldn't have just been a backstory for Gambit. Also, it was utterly pointless to have Bishop in the first part, acting all high and mighty about how he is never going to let Gambit out of his sight, only to have him just gone for the other three issues. What happened to never letting him out of his sight? I also don't buy that the Brood were able to impregnate Ghost Rider. Another aspect that felt like they needed to force in a reason to have a battle between him and the X-Men. So during this story we learn Gambit is married and meet his wife, upsetting Rogue, only to conveniently kill her off by the end of the arc because that means they couldn't continue their romance with Rogue any longer. Oh, and did we really need to have Cyclops drooling over Psylocke? He ditched his wife and son for Jean and I'm suddenly supposed to believe he is attracted to Psylocke? NO!!!! It doesn't work that way!!!

However, I can get look past these awful issues because the next final two parter was probably the worst X-Men stories I have read over the last few months. Not only do we get Mojo (I HATE MOJO!!!), but half of the story feels rushed and it comes out of nowhere. Yeah, sure, they showed Longshot leading a rebellion a few issues ago, but this seems like I missed an entire story arc while the Brood and Ghost Rider stuff was happening. It is also weird that these issues were only 15 pages long instead of the normal 22. It should have just been an annual story or something. The last big page was really stupid as during the last panel they say they should celebrate, next page is this double page spread of the standing there in a pose. What happened to the celebration?

Overall, I am so glad to have gotten this book despite its miscomings. Sure, Claremont's run might have lasted a little too long as the late stuff didn't feel up to par with his early stuff, but the stories I read never felt this disjointed. Even my disapointment with issues 146-150 pale in comparison to the poorly written stories that came to pass in this book. On one hand, I really feel the wedding of Scott and Madelynne in 175 could have made for a great ending point. On the other hand, the storyline with Deathbird's rule over the Shi'ar Empire would have been left incomplete, which wasn't completed until like 277, which lead directly into the Shadow King plot that was clearly being built up for some time. Therefore, 280/X-Factor 60 feels like the true end to the series because all plot threads are closed.

Next up, my very first mutant crossover series, X-Cutioner's Song.

(Spoilers for Luke Cage.)

http://img.cinemablend.com/filter:sc...195.jpg?mw=600

I think this is my favorite show of the three so far.

Watched the first 2 episodes of Luke and its better than Jones, but kind of boring right now. It's awesome that we have Cottonmouth, but I want to see him wearing his purple Serpent Society garb (along with the rest of the group). I love the lighting though. Whoever is in charge of photography is damn good at this job.

Luke Cage was a blast, though it's weird that this is the Marvel thing that has the most 'citizens turn into dicks' angle, and yet keeps from staying that way while still feeling like the usual amount of hatred Marvel citizens can produce.

The first episode was a slow grind.

I if I had to complain about one thing is how the story with Cottonmouth is pretty much a rehash of Daredevil season 1.