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Frontier

07-05-2021 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die (Post 806799)

Maya being alive isn't on the same level of stupidity as Shima being alive, but it's a very close second.

And, man, I really liked Wataru's kid showing up in full Back to the Future regalia (that orange vest!) and getting everyone together to fight the Neo-Fangires. (THE NEO-FANGIRES.) Beyond a fun way to get Otoya's actor back in the final shots, I liked how it reaffirmed the links between generations? This episode didn't do a single thing in 1986, so having a character from 2030 let us know that Wataru's actions will impact future generations... that's pretty on-topic?

Also nice way to bring the base Kiva suit back for the finale since Wataru is still using Emperor Form.

Kamen Rider Die

07-05-2021 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frontier (Post 806800)

Also nice way to bring the base Kiva suit back for the finale since Wataru is still using Emperor Form.

That, too! Ending the show with all three Kiva suits (plus Rising IXA and the Arms Monsters) jump-kicking a glittering UFO full of Neo-Fangires? Helluva final image!

FreshToku

07-05-2021 09:21 PM

Should have been Saga instead of Dark Kiva though!!!! (< me being a bitter nerd)

Kamen Rider Die

07-05-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshToku (Post 806802)

Should have been Saga instead of Dark Kiva though!!!! (< me being a bitter nerd)

You're not wrong to feel that way, even if I can sort of see why they didn't use it. Saga was the incomplete version of Taiga, and Dark Kiva is him accepting his family and becoming a better ruler.

That said! I'd've loved if they could've found a way to use the Saga and IXA suits, just to give us a complete suit roster. Say, Kengo as Saga? And Megumi as IXA? That would've been ideal.

Sylarking

07-05-2021 10:15 PM

I Wish they expand the 13 Demons lore more.

Kamen Rider Die

07-05-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylarking (Post 806805)

I Wish they expand the 13 Demons lore more.

I'm not even sure what this is? *quick Google search for "13 demons kiva"* Oh! The monster guys! Yeah, I'm okay with what we got. There was, for me, the exact right amount of world-building in Kiva. Just enough to give context and stakes, not enough to feel like we'd need a ton of exposition to keep track of it all.

Sylarking

07-05-2021 10:33 PM

I Do not know why they mention the 13 demons and not bother to show all of it. That's a pet peeve of mine.

Kamen Rider Die

07-05-2021 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sylarking (Post 806807)

I Do not know why they mention the 13 demons and not bother to show all of it. That's a pet peeve of mine.

Probably just a fun Ryuki callback. First it was having Megumi do a photoshoot in Kitaoka's office, then it was mentioning 13 of something and giving us way less.

Frontier

07-05-2021 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshToku (Post 806802)

Should have been Saga instead of Dark Kiva though!!!! (< me being a bitter nerd)

Saga doesn't have a Rider Kick though...at least from what I remember.

Although suddenly I'm imagining Taiga having a kid that's the next Saga.

Sylarking

07-05-2021 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die (Post 806808)

Probably just a fun Ryuki callback. First it was having Megumi do a photoshoot in Kitaoka's office, then it was mentioning 13 of something and giving us way less.

Yeah well anyway what is your favorite finale from Kugga to Kiva?

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