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cosmicrescend0 06-20-2022 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dajango (Post 831880)
There?s no ?suit leaks? at all, it?s a few people on 4 Chan just making stuff up
I'm aware. Anything trying to pull from the "Beowulf" thing at this point is most likely entirely false, hence the quotation marks around "suit leaks".

Mesnick 06-20-2022 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0 (Post 831879)
It seems like another rumor has surfaced, this time about Geats' secondary:



To elaborate, Jiangshi are reanimated corspes (most likely brought back by supernatural causes) that move around by hopping with their arms outstretched, looking to suck to life force out of people. Depending on the source material, people often compare them to vampires or zombies.

What a monstrous theme for a secondary Rider? Perhaps they'll initally be villainous or something. I wonder if the item bit means that the secondary uses a different kind of Driver, or that one of the gimmick items (the bracelet or the buckle) resembles one. Jiangshi have very clear motifs/imagery, so I wouldn't be surprised if the buckle resembled a jiangshi's face, or something like that.

Not sure how true this considering all the "suit leaks" so far for Geats is re-hashing the same rumor more or less, but it sure would be a interesting theme for a Rider.
This is what I like. I like it very, very much. On a dark theme, maybe he won't be a villain, but something like Kiva, based on monsters and drawing strength from them. But the enmity between the Riders will be unequivocal, because they are literally cat and dog. But, of course, all these are just theories that need to be confirmed.

Anonymcat 06-20-2022 08:20 PM
As someone with part of chinese blood and a cat lover, i hope that this rumor is true

Kamen Rider Lucha 06-21-2022 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0 (Post 831879)
To elaborate, Jiangshi are reanimated corspes (most likely brought back by supernatural causes) that move around by hopping with their arms outstretched, looking to suck to life force out of people. Depending on the source material, people often compare them to vampires or zombies.
Legit or not, this feels WAY more like a Kamen Rider than anything from that lazy Beowolf speculation.

If true, I wonder what the overall motif for the series is. Animals and monsters, maybe?

Mesnick 06-21-2022 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 831933)
If true, I wonder what the overall motif for the series is. Animals and monsters, maybe?
If so, then I will even forgive the division of the suit into two halves. It seems to me that the mystical theme will overshadow the similarity with Build. Interesting, then if you imagine that the wolf / dog will be the theme of the protagonist, what will be his monster? Werewolf is too obvious. Jiangshi attack like cats, which means that monsters are needed, either attacking in a pack or chasing the victim for a long time, following her trail. Maybe Onryo - the vengeful japanese spirit, like Sadako from "The Ring"?

cosmicrescend0 06-21-2022 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 831933)
Legit or not, this feels WAY more like a Kamen Rider than anything from that lazy Beowolf speculation.

If true, I wonder what the overall motif for the series is. Animals and monsters, maybe?
To be fair, suit designs only have a randomized chance of relaying any actual themes of the work. Seeing Saber for the first time would instantly register as "oh, Knight theme!", and Zero One's tech theme would probably get across even if you didn't know its name. But take any suit from Revice and present it without context: they might catch wind of the stamp theme maybe, but they wouldn't be able to sniff out the demons aspect.

However, if the jiangshi rumor is true, I'd like nothing more than a proper Round 2 on Kiva's monster aesthetics! I feel like Rider rarely reuses themes, so it might be unlikely, but it would be so fun!

weedle013ZiO 06-21-2022 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger (Post 831881)
If I'm not mistaken, Jiangshi are what the Rinshi from GekiRanger were based off of.
I remember those mooks from Jungle Fury, but yeah

Agentjx 06-22-2022 06:42 PM
I wager that there will be at least one rider in the show that uses a weapon to transform.

Mesnick 06-23-2022 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Agentjx (Post 832023)
I wager that there will be at least one rider in the show that uses a weapon to transform.
Then I'll go ahead and "risk" assuming that there will be at least one shooter among the Riders.

Blade Fang 06-23-2022 05:28 AM
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Annuga 06-23-2022 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Blade Fang (Post 832042)
Idk, his leg looks really weird so it looks pretty fake? Blue and red work well for a colour scheme though

EDIT: Apparantly this is real but it's a Revice Rider? People are saying it looks like the Demons/Vail Driver

TheRaizin 06-23-2022 06:03 AM
It's a Revice Rider. You can see the crocodile stamp on his holster, the undersuit is Century's, and you can see a bit of the Vail driver on Live's horn with a blue attachment.

TheRaizin 06-23-2022 07:57 AM
reposted somewhere else lol

Mesnick 06-23-2022 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 832046)
It's a Revice Rider. You can see the crocodile stamp on his holster, the undersuit is Century's, and you can see a bit of the Vail driver on Live's horn with a blue attachment.
But the Geats will appear in the movie, right? It seems that this year the tradition should not interfere with anything.

Frontier 06-23-2022 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 832060)
But the Geats will appear in the movie, right? It seems that this year the tradition should not interfere with anything.
I would honestly be surprised if he didn't.

Kiwami 06-23-2022 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Annuga (Post 832044)
Idk, his leg looks really weird so it looks pretty fake? Blue and red work well for a colour scheme though

EDIT: Apparantly this is real but it's a Revice Rider? People are saying it looks like the Demons/Vail Driver
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Originally Posted by TheRaizin (Post 832046)
It's a Revice Rider. You can see the crocodile stamp on his holster, the undersuit is Century's, and you can see a bit of the Vail driver on Live's horn with a blue attachment.
It's the reason the Vail Driver isn't a toy yet. Maybe this is Papa's "redeemed" Rider form?

cosmicrescend0 06-23-2022 05:39 PM
To veer this thread back on track on Geats speculation, here's a simple question: what color would you prefer Geats to be? Personally, I'd really enjoy another addition to the non-red warm colors (yellow/orange/golden) to be nice. (My ideal would be blue, but since it feels like its restricted to alt forms/non-main Riders, so that's the next best thing.)

MangaArtist18 06-23-2022 08:44 PM
Orange or yellow could be cool, Green would also be nice.

GreenPsychoRanger 06-23-2022 09:06 PM
The newest round of artwork I've found on Discord. Most likely fake. This is supposedly Geats.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4/IMG_0023.jpg

MangaArtist18 06-23-2022 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger (Post 832104)
The newest round of artwork I've found on Discord. Most likely fake. This is supposedly Geats.
That does look cool, even if it is fake.

Pineapple924 06-23-2022 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0 (Post 832086)
To veer this thread back on track on Geats speculation, here's a simple question: what color would you prefer Geats to be? Personally, I'd really enjoy another addition to the non-red warm colors (yellow/orange/golden) to be nice. (My ideal would be blue, but since it feels like its restricted to alt forms/non-main Riders, so that's the next best thing.)
A part of me would love to see mostly silver again, we haven't really gotten a rider that was predominately silver since Blade although Zi-O had a good amount.

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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger (Post 832104)
The newest round of artwork I've found on Discord. Most likely fake. This is supposedly Geats.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4/IMG_0023.jpg
Not gonna lie, I really dig the way they incorporated the axe shape for the eyes. The other rumored design had the axe with the blade facing the wolf, but I think this way gives the eyes more dynamic lines/vectors (I don't know the proper term).

TheJaz 06-23-2022 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger (Post 832104)
The newest round of artwork I've found on Discord. Most likely fake. This is supposedly Geats.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4/IMG_0023.jpg
Honestly i like the way this looks but seems quite fake to me

I think the painfully generic logo really seals it for me, it has no stylization at all I just can't imagine a rider logo looking that plain

The belt also looks like a Photoshop of something I've seen before but I can't place what exactly, it being mostly out of frame also feels a but suspicious imo

The Wolf Axe stuff Also just feels like an offshoot of the Beowulf stuff to me so that gives me serious doubt

Wouldn't be mad if this was real tho, and (assuming it's fake) honestly props to whoever made the suit it's an impressive job

EDIT: My wife who knows some casual Japanese also thinks it's funny they wrote "new" in katakana instead of "新しい" ("atarashii"), which she doesn't think anything official would do. Also points out it says "Beowulf" which to me just makes this an even firmer fake

cosmicrescend0 06-23-2022 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJaz (Post 832116)
My wife who knows some casual Japanese also thinks it's funny they wrote "new" in katakana instead of "新しい" ("atarashii"), which she doesn't think anything official would do. Also points out it says "Beowulf" which to me just makes this an even firmer fake
Truly the one of more interesting parts of "catalogue/magazine" leaks for any japanese franchise is some non-jpn speaker trying to cobble together the language just enough to fool other non-jpn speakers, but never a high enough quality to seem like actual jpn a native speaker would use.

It's a pleasant enough design, even if it's obviously fake. Can't imagine Toei/Plex going for a full/mostly white suit design these days, under fear of yellowing/sun damage/blemishings being more clearer to see/etc.

Mesnick 06-24-2022 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0 (Post 832086)
To veer this thread back on track on Geats speculation, here's a simple question: what color would you prefer Geats to be? Personally, I'd really enjoy another addition to the non-red warm colors (yellow/orange/golden) to be nice. (My ideal would be blue, but since it feels like its restricted to alt forms/non-main Riders, so that's the next best thing.)
I like the idea of ​​a yellow and blue Rider. Speaking of colors in general, orange hasn't been used in mainstream forms since Gaim.

Mesnick 06-24-2022 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenPsychoRanger (Post 832104)
The newest round of artwork I've found on Discord. Most likely fake. This is supposedly Geats.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4/IMG_0023.jpg
Blend of Ryuki and Build. I don't know, to me it's more like a power up for a ranger than a Rider. Plus, it's scary to imagine what will happen to this white suit in 40+ episodes.

MKDremare 06-24-2022 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 832123)
I like the idea of ​​a yellow and blue Rider. Speaking of colors in general, orange hasn't been used in mainstream forms since Gaim.
Ghost came after Gaim and he used orange, though.

cosmicrescend0 06-24-2022 07:22 AM
Oh I just realized, the logo trademark should be dropping either this or next Monday, how exciting! There is a chance of them not trademarking it until much later but given how the other three Reiwa shows' logos did so within this period, we have a good chance of seeing it.

Mesnick 06-24-2022 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MKDremare (Post 832125)
Ghost came after Gaim and he used orange, though.
Guilty. Somehow forgot about him. But anyway, that was over 5 years ago. Have we ever had a purple main Rider?

Sh Ranger 06-24-2022 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 832143)
Guilty. Somehow forgot about him. But anyway, that was over 5 years ago. Have we ever had a purple main Rider?
Kamen Rider Hibiki.

Mesnick 06-24-2022 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger (Post 832144)
Kamen Rider Hibiki.
Off course!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e2/d3...ad45ac67ee.jpg

TheJaz 06-24-2022 11:44 AM
Tbh I'd love to see a purple main rider, purple is my favourite colour, and I really love the shades of purple toei tends to use for some of their suits (Hibiki, Rogue, Genm, Wolzard, and Staceaser all come to mind as suits where I just loooooove the purple colour)

For some reason tho I've been imagining geats pretty consistently as either gold, brown, or orange... or a mix of some of those, but I really could not explain why? I'm not even sure if I'd like those colours (orange might look nice) but it's what I keep imagining regardless

Sh Ranger 06-24-2022 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TheJaz (Post 832152)
Tbh I'd love to see a purple main rider, purple is my favourite colour, and I really love the shades of purple toei tends to use for some of their suits (Hibiki, Rogue, Genm, Wolzard, and Staceaser all come to mind as suits where I just loooooove the purple colour)
Same here. I especially love Shinobi and Sasword!

Kamen Rider Lucha 06-24-2022 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0 (Post 832118)
It's a pleasant enough design, even if it's obviously fake. Can't imagine Toei/Plex going for a full/mostly white suit design these days, under fear of yellowing/sun damage/blemishings being more clearer to see/etc.
Zenkaizer would like a word with you. :lol

Even though this is clearly fake, I'd love to see a mostly-white main Kamen Rider at some point.

What bothers me about this art is how... basic it is. The design isn't really organized around any unifying theme. It's not particularly imaginative.

Pineapple924 06-24-2022 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 832156)
Even though this is clearly fake, I'd love to see a mostly-white main Kamen Rider at some point.
We did have Fourze, and a decent chunk of Saber is white:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/p...ravedragon.png

Kamen Rider Lucha 06-24-2022 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple924 (Post 832158)
We did have Fourze, and a decent chunk of Saber is white:
I'm literally in the middle of a Fourze rewatch right now, and he didn't even register in my mind. :lol

Agentjx 06-24-2022 11:09 PM
The July magazine should come any day now. Let's see what details it'll reveal. I'm hoping there's at least a silhouette to work with.

cosmicrescend0 06-25-2022 12:52 PM
This most likely fake (the source even says "uncomfirmed" lol) but another rumor on FB states that Geats has a fox theme. Feels a bit weird to be talking about shoddy rumors when our next big official piece of information is around the corner, but it's still fun to dicuss them nonetheless.

Foxes are cute (and pretty underused in Rider, iirc) and it would (most likely) give us an orange Rider, so I wouldn't mind it at all.

Annuga 06-25-2022 03:49 PM
Y'know, a fox theme would be absolutely hilarious with all the Beowulf rumours

Mesnick 06-25-2022 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0 (Post 832228)
Foxes are cute (and pretty underused in Rider, iirc) and it would (most likely) give us an orange Rider, so I wouldn't mind it at all.
And with a very high probability it would mean a Japanese folk theme. But overall, given the rumors about Jiangshi and this, it looks like someone is still hoping for a Shinobi Rider show. If not in name, then at least in meaning.
But I disagree about the color. In the toku, judging by my memory, foxes are mostly depicted as white. And in principle, they can be yellow, and silver, and even black.

joedragon72 06-25-2022 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesnick (Post 832233)
And with a very high probability it would mean a Japanese folk theme.
This mention of Japanese folk theme reminds me of a certain sentai series? hint hint

It also reminds me of the Japanese kitsune (nine-tailed fox) for the main rider and with the rumored jiangshi theme for the second rider, I don?t suppose that we will have Asian mythology (East Asian mythology to be more specific) as the overarching theme/motif of the series right?


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