I don't think a female rider will work unless its a third since Rinne fell off hard as a secondry

Considering how much Gavv has in common with Gotchard in terms of concept, I'm more inclined to think that they will try female secondary again.

What does it have in common?

The name starts with a G?

cause there is nothing else that is common with it
in

and we wont know anything till a writer is announce

if anything with the weird idea of a talking belt and the whole gummy monsters

it has more in common with Drive and Gaim

Given how the chocolate form seems to be wearing a poncho and the shape of the helmet, I think is meant to evoke a cowboy hat, not a top hat. Furthermore, the marshmallow form's design resembles muscles, and unless I'm getting confused by the perspective it even looks like it has a topknot hairstyle, likely based on a sumo wrestler or other martial artist. The chips and lollipop forms are less clear, although the chips form's curving armor and slitted eyes somewhat resemble knight armor, and the lollipop form looks bulkier than the others so it might be a mecha?

This is all still just guessing, but I think Gavv might echo what Gaim did, with the transformation items being themed on food but the actual forms also using the aesthetics of various warriors. Although if that's the case, I have no idea what the base gummy form is supposed to be, unless they're counting "Kamen Rider" as a type of warrior XD

Gammies are clearly alive, just like Chemies. Also, we are immediately shown several forms and there is no information (except for the already unfounded one about the chocolate secondary) about other riders. So it`s definitely not like Gaim. Drive, yes, but it is more similar than Gotchard solely due to the presence of a live belt.

Well Gavv's based form is sort of kangaroo like, so maybe its like a martial artists

As Gavv's has a punch gummy and a kick gummy to use his full power punch and kick moves

Also the kr reddit gives a better look at the forms

Sumo might be right, the chip one looks more akin to a ninja

Red one is indeed a cowboy as you can see the clear pancho on it

The lollipop is some kind of mech like form looking at it, it seems to be something like a car as the chest plate sticks out like a car front and has the same overall shape

So I think your right its more types of warriors

I mean there is other seasons that has living things

Kiva's final form was alive

The kabuto tickets were living things

Drives also had some form of int

Ghost eyecons also were alive to a degree

So no its not gotacard like just cause of the chemmies and now gummies

OH also in blade the undead cards were still alive

and as pointed out by the other dude

The rider forms are more akin to Gaims being based on types of warriors

I think you're right, but here the different types of warriors are not different riders, but different forms of Gavva. And the basic one is the basic one, on top of which the rest are dressed.
The chips are more like a samurai, given the characteristic ties of the armor. And the marshmallow one is definitely a sumo wrestler.
And if lollipops are mecha, then another similarity with Gotchard is emerging.

Dude Gaim did the mecha form first

You are making it sound like Gotchard was the first to do all of these things when infact it wasn't

And all this happened more than ten years ago.


But in Gaim, the riders were based on warriors, not their forms. The evolution of Gaim's forms boiled down to increasing the rank of his samurai. The Baron remained a knight even when he traded a banana for a mango. Lockseed was given different weapons, but the aesthetics weren't changed much.

Thats wrong

Gaim's main forms were indeed based on samurai rank, but all of his side forms and other riders are based on other types of warriors

Ichigo was a ninja
Pine was some kind of heavy duty knight with a fiail

The other riders also got forms based on other types of medevel warriors beside their base forms

The fact Gavv is

Living belt-many seasons have this

Then based on type of medevel/older professions

Gavv is more alike to Gaim then any other series base on forms

No, I just think the similarities with the closer show are more relevant than the older one. After all, if they announce a rider who transforms using a mobile phone, it will no longer be like Faiz, even with the same scriptwriter. Because riders, transformations, and even mobile phones have changed. So even if Gavv's candy form was a round mech with a machine gun, it would still have little in common with Gaim.

Thats flawed logic and a scarecrow argument

You are saying cause Gavv has a living tickets its out right more like Gotacard when Gotacard whole card conpect is a DIRECT rip from blades

Chemmies are living creatures sealed within cards that are used to give riders their powers

Blade
The blade riders seal living creatures called undead into cards in order to use their powers for their forms and finishers

So no your logic is wrong

I get it you like Goatcard that's fine, but don't create false information to push something

Let's see. Don`t forget that riders now have more shape than in Gaim`s time. If they all have a warrior aesthetic, or at least a combat aesthetic, then yes. But in any case, I wouldn`t count on Gaim 2.0.

and just to prove you more wrong

Gotacard also uses the friendship angle concept to gain new forms WHEN FOURZE A OLDER SERIES ALSO DID THAT

So gotcard uses two core conpects from Fourze and Blade two far older seasons as part of its core conpect

I know it's not the first time but I have to admire them being able to come up with cool forms based around food and it looks like they've got a good multi-form balance going.

I like them too, I just want to know who the bloody writer is, cause that will make it or break it for me

That`s right, it?s not for nothing that Gotchard came out on Blade`s 20th anniversary. But, given the similar concept, are the shows similar? At least close? Surely everyone who raved about Blade also embraced Gotchard? Of course not. That's what I'm talking about. Even if we go further and remake the conventional Blade according to the same script, it will turn out to be a completely different show. Because Bandai will demand more toys. So, if you want, you can find similarities in 1971, but I still think that there are more of them in closer shows.

And there are also magic rings, like in Wizard, and alchemists, like in OOO. This has been discussed for a long time.

No, I just think the similarities with the closer show are more relevant than the older one. After all, if they announce a rider who transforms using a mobile phone, it will no longer be like Faiz, even with the same scriptwriter. Because riders, transformations, and even mobile phones have changed. So even if Gavv's candy form was a round mech with a machine gun, it would still have little in common with Gaim.

I want to state this you just said you are taking similarities from newer seasons and not the old ones which were a lot of this concepts started from

and you are now creating another strawman argument

I said core conpects Alchemist rings arent a core conpect in OOO that wasn't a core conpect


But it is WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT and I'm not talking about remaking I'm talking about conpects

Story writing and conpects arent the same you are bluring that line now and moving the goal post

We are talking about core conpects NOT REMAKES NOT THINGS IN A SHOW

THE CORE CONPECTS Alchemy is a core conpect in Goatcard, but it isn't in OOO

stop moving the goal post I proved your wrong, and you need to stop trying to prove me wrong when you are wrong

Wells just agree the core conpects are closer to things like kiva, drive and gaim

and not Gotacard because it isn't and that Gotacard main core conpects are rip from foruze and blades

lets call it there

Now the writer is what will be what banks on the series on what it will be till the writer is shown we don't know what the story will be

Well, if Gammies shouts out his names, then that will be quite enough for me.



Actually, I want someone with variety. So that he could surprise, and not lead everyone along the same trodden paths. Maybe even a newbie, although, after Revice, someone with experience working on at least Ultraman would be better.

The marshmallow form reminds me of Guyver suits for some reason, chocolate form does seem like a nod to Wonka to a certain extent, the potato chips form looks like it should pelt chips like shurikens.

FULL Body shots of the new forms!

https://twitter.com/bandai_ridertoy/...16719534637454

Weird the colors look wrong expect chip and lolipop

Clearly the colors on the poster tricked us.

That said I think I'm in love with Chocolate Cowboy. It has a chocolate drip poncho, A CHOCOLATE DRIP PONCHO!!!

Also chips being swords is super fitting (I've cut my mouth a few times eating potato chips) and I love them layering them on for the armor.

Marshmallow is very fluffy and reminds me of Staypuft, meanwhile the candy mecha form... honestly glad we look to be having a physical suit for this one. Was worried tbh.

Chocolate Cowboy is easily my favorite here, yeehaw! That candy one is ridiculous though, like someone saw Ex-Aid suits and went I CAN GO FURTHER. I'm not sure if it succeeds in taking refuge in audacity or not yet.

The Ex-Aid vibes make me think the writer is Takahashi, but man... I *really* don't want another Takahashi show any time soon to be honest. I find a lot of tokusatsu writers tend to grate on me if they become too prolific. Even if a new writer might fumble on some things, it's always refreshing to have a different perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VZ1vA9YQqw

Marshmallow Gummy = FuwaMallow
Chocolate Gummy = ChocoDan
Lollipop Gummy = GuruCan
Potato Chips Gummy = ZakuZaku Chips

Nah it's the correct color. The forms are tinted by the bubble color in that poster as the marshmallow form isn't blue-tinted.

I love everything about this.

I hate everything about this. But, I will say it's still not as bad as Ex-Aid with those eyes and the weird face backpacks.

The chewy effect definitely adds personality to the belt and a sense of twist to the handle. The voice is very energetic and optimistic.

My main gripe with the costume actually concerns the matching pants. The white interior simultaneously attracts attention and creates a feeling of emptiness. It would be better to limit yourself to classic black or experiment with colors. And the cowboy’s poncho should have been made longer.

What a colorful, playful, kiddie motif... (flashbacks to Gaim and Ex-Aid) This series is gonna have a really dark plot, isn't it? I wonder if the monsters eat people...

Random idea, but with the idea of eating and the fact that both the Chemy cards and the belt ad show a whole bunch of each Gochizou instead of just one, it would be interesting if in the story the Gochizous weren't collectables but consumables, meaning there'd be many of each but after using one it was "eaten up" and Gavv had to somehow get another of the same kind before he could access that form again (obviously the toys would still be reusable). Perhaps they'd even be made from defeated monsters, with Gavv in an eat-or-be-eaten situation where he must devour his enemies to survive!

Ok, I doubt it'll actually be like that, but it's fun to think about, and consumable form-changing items could be an interesting weakness to give a rider if they were handled well.

*Looks at clipboard* Oh yes.

Let's hope they seriously don't go that path. We've had enough of that in Ryuki and the Hibiki summer movie.

That they're advertising just the Main Rider and the base forms makes me wonder if we're not going to immediately get a Secondary or multiple Riders from the get-go again?

I wouldn't be surprised if they go Revice with their rider count. I'm sure they have at least three prepped in the oven including Gavv, but wouldn't be surprised if they added a few more along the way. But I don't expect a lot like Geats or Saber.

So Gavv is inspired by Tokyo Ghoul? It seems to me that in this case there would definitely be plums (especially considering how close they turned out to be this year), just to test the waters and not conflict with restless parents. Plus, in terms of the show, it will be quite disappointing when a defeated monster, instead of a new toy, drops an already familiar one (especially for something like candy fur, which is already hated). But given that the rules are likely to traditionally change mid-show, one-off gimmicks may very well become a thing at some point.
Plus, then the crossover with Gotchard will turn from a team-up into a confrontation.

And for some reason I immediately remembered the Black Sun with its narcotic jelly made of people.

I would venture to guess that it will definitely not be less than 5. The main trio, an antagonist and one more for plot needs.