Because for the most part I've found Wizard really dull. Nitou is the only character I like, and only now is Haruto beginning to be of any interest to me.

I like Wizard but.. Yea. Haruto is kinda one-sided. I can see where you're coming from.

Hmm...I think, if I ranked KR series, Wizard would be just out of my Top 5, at 6th.

Just watched Episode 12 of Kabuto. And I am not enjoying Drake. The suit design is really bland, especially when standing beside Kabuto or TheBee. And Daisuke is.. just really annoying. To the point I was hoping the Worm outright killed him just so he'd never return again. The episode itself was alright. Nice to see Kagami grow a backbone towards the end, even after being dolled up by Daisuke.

And ranking KR?

1) Fourze
2) Kuuga
3) Kabuto
4) Wizard
5) OOO

1. OOO
2. W
3. Blade
4. Ryuki
5. Den-O
6. Wizard
7. Kabuto
8. Fourze
9. Kiva
10. Decade

I still need to finish Faiz and watch Kuuga, Agito, and Hibiki (I'm holding off on Black because I'm assuming we're watching it for the next LWW).

Out of everything I've finished:

1. Den-O
2. Fourze
3. Kiva

I was gonna put Amazon on my list, but I never got to finish it, so it'd be unfair to rank it on the list.
"What about Wizard?"
Hush your mouth.

Mine is:

1) Fourze
2) W
3) Ryuki
4) OOO
5) Decade
6) Wizard

(Yes, I'm aware that in terms of quality Wizard is a better series than Decade. But preference wise I feel I got more enjoyment out of Decade before it turned into a trainwreck).

EDIT: Just watched the Ryuki vs Agito HBV. Loved it, was completely worth it to see Knight, Zolda and Ouja as the "allies of justice" :lol. However I'll never be able to see the gold trim on Agito's helmet as anything but a moustache.

EDIT EDIT: Aaaand now I've watched 13 Riders too, which I also REALLY enjoyed. It's no real substitute for the real Ryuki, but I'm a sucker for AU stuff and this less complex alternate retelling had me hooked. Despite being an incredibly one dimensional character, I really dug Verde - he had a really unique look and fighting style. That bit where Shinji and Ren were surrounded by all the remaining riders was epic too.

I thought both the endings were great, but the real gem was Shinji becoming the new Knight. I have to say, that made me want the Knight Survive figure far more than the series ever did.

Alright Kamen Rider Kuuga literally put me to sleep, but I might have been exhausted but still other shows have kept me up. I don't think it moves fast enough for me, even in Yuusuke interests me. Thinking of doing Kabuto next or Agito not sure.

Haruto reminds me of the Showa Riders in that he is the nice guy that fights evil to save others. If I hated it, I would have to hate Kotaro, Hongo, etc, because they were never developed in the same manner as the Heisei riders have been.

While I don't think Wizard is better than W or Fourze, it is a sure as a hell a lot better than OOO (which was pretty good).

However, if I were to list the order of my favorite series I have completed, it would probably be like this:

Blade
W
Black
Kiva
Ryuki
Agito
Fourze
Kuuga
OOO
555
Kabuto
Den-O
Hibiki
Black Rx
Decade

If I included ones I haven't finished yet, Wizard would be right below Fourze and the original would be above 555.

I'm kind of having that problem, too. I've been wanting to watch Kuuga for months, but after watching 3 episodes was just kind of bored with it and haven't gone back..

Told ya! That's the greatest moment within all the Ryuki continuities. Shinji is a total badass for that one moment.

So the third episode is slow too? Man that sucks maybe I'll return to it later too.

Started Kamen Rider Kabuto episode 1, now that is a Kamen Rider that has me intrigued. I really like Souji so I can't wait to see how this one goes. I have on my computer, Agito, Kiva, Decade, Hibiki, Ryuki and Den-O I'm going to decide what to watch next. I keep hearing people say good things about Agito, I just want to know is it good paced with good characters?

I think I'll finish Faiz next...

My list would be

1. W
2. Decade
3. Wizard

Because they're the only ones I've seen a significant portion of. :p

It's, from the 30 episodes I watched, not very well paced. Though the characters vary, most of them are good.

I don't see how Kuuga is slow when it puts its characters in the fore front. Same goes for Agito.

It's always interesting to see an opinion on Kuuga and Agito that's not just lathering it in tongue baths...

Not tongue baths, but I am definately buying Kuuga something nice for Christmas.

Kuuga and Agito are very different shows. The focus is more on the characters and ongoing plot, with the action kind of fit in around the edges, although both shows get more action-packed as they go on (and Agito, in general, has more fights than Kuuga). The shows started putting in more fight scenes and less story as they went on, leading us up to shows like Fourze and Wizard where it sometimes feels like there's large stretches with no plot advancement at all. I can't lie and say I don't prefer the older style.

That and The Grongi. They were the only Kr villian that actually looked like something that could exist. They were menacing, they were perfect.

I always thought that the Makamou looked pretty believable (in design if not in execution) - at least the big CG ones that are mostly just slightly mutated animals.

I just recently got back around to watching W again and wow I forgot how good this show is. Just finish the arc were Accel comes in and man I didn't think he would be that big of friggin' butt hole. Although I was very sad to see Kirihiko get offed by his own wife wow talk about cruel.

All I'll say is YES. Otherwise I'll ramble for a hour about how awesome the show and it's characters are...even Hojo!

HoJo? But he died on the Midgar Cannon after swallowing all those Jenova Cells.

I liked Agito just fine, the pacing is odd for the first half. Gills being off on his own irked me. But it's still a pretty good show. Kuuga however really is boring, especially early on. I mean sure it gets better later but I had to pick it up and drop it more than once to make it through.

I've actually put off Kuuga and Agito not out of disinterest, but simple hype. I'm afraid I won't enjoy them as much I should.

Because in Agito's case the charatcers don't do anything. Souichi has absolutely no motivation for most of the show, then when he randomly get's his memories back he's suddenly all gung-ho about finding out how his sister died. Mind you that's an interesting enough plot, but the problem is it only came about after twenty or so episodes, before which we had a completely roundabout nonsense plot revolving around some chick who decieves Agito and Gills and then just dies to fuck with Agito's head. (And even that took a while to happen) Before that he had literally no drive, no motivation, and really not much character to him. Same goes for Gills, who hasn't really done a damn thing, but at least seems like he wants to know what's happening. Even G3, the best character, is completely reactionary. Literally everyone just sits around doing little if anything until a monster shows up, then they fight, then maybe, maybe something happens.

It really baffles me when people say Agito has such a great story and great characters when that's practically a lie. The story has barely advanced, the characters have remained almost exactly the same since the beginning, and nothing is explained. I'm tempted to go back and finish it in one night just so I can see if something amazing happens that just distracts people from the first 60% of teh show being an utter non-event.

The only problem with the whole "more focus on story and characters" is that if the story isn't good, it feels very boring. Agito is slow as sludge because nothing really happens. The "story" drags and advancements and changes are so spaced apart.

And in Agito where the action is "packed around the edges" leads to the action being almost completely disconnected from the story. The fight scenes are so random and badly integrated. There's no flow, fights just happen whenever.

They may have added more action as series go on, but it doesn't seem like the amount of story changed at all. They just spend less time sitting around and talking about things we already know.

He mellows out pretty quick, especially once his backstory comes to light.

This Hojo is far more interesting than that lame mad scientist.

The Makamou looked like they were just green screened creatures stretched out to make them look big, making their fights completely bland and disgusting to watch.

:lol

On a side note...I hated his boss fight in Crisis Core.

I'll give Agito one thing, they took a tired, insiped character archtype that would have just been another smug buttchild who either got his just deserts or turned good at the end and made him an actual, multi-sided character with history and motivations... who's still a shit-eater, but he's not just cartoonishly stuckup like half the chumps from Kabuto.

I figure he will but it just kind of surprised me how jerkish he is. I am very excited to meet Weather because of how much of a badass he is.

I've returned to Agito so I can finish the series and evaluate it properly. The pacing has not changed. It's not really that stuff doesn't happen, it's that it just take so long. I managed to grind six episodes and about enough has actually happened to fill three. This show feels like each episode is a full hour in the worst way.

That said, Agito got a new red form that's kinda weird, and Another Agito has shown up. Agito's new form has what's very similar to his normal helmet, shiney and smooth like a typical helmet, but the body suit is much more organic and contrasts badly. Eh. But really there were three episodes that were basically just Gills saying "I'm like Agito?" or someone else saying the two are the same over and over, G3 and Hobo talking about shit we, the audience, have known for five episodes now*, and the eternally awful Mana running away and having a little soul-searchy episode. What pissed me off, though, is that (quite refreshingly) Souichi likewise had a bit of "where do I belong" since I guess he realised he should have a story at some point, right? That's not the bad part, though. What's bad is when he's in his funk and putting these game pieces on a board because he's deep in reflection, and when he fails to answer to Mana's Goddawful pronounciation of his name, she flips his fucking game over. Oh, so it's okay when you have a little hissy fit and run away from home making everyone worry, but the guy who has the weight of the world on his shoulders is feeling, justifiably, down in the dumps and you start throwing shit? Get the fuck out.

*That really is the show's biggest problem. Either too much time is spent asking questions that don't get answered until later, or asking questions that were already answered and characters are playing catchup on. It's verbal padding, and because everyone's speech is about as smooth and consisent as a crack addict driving standard, (protip: when a show's subtitles work in an elipses on nearly every line of dialogue, something is horrifically wrong) a lot and I mean a lot of time is spent talking about shit we already know.

You only watched 6 episodes in one sitting? I watched all of Agito in 4 sittings, and that was actually one too many for me. Usually I get through a 50 episode series in 3 sittings unless I am watching it with friends or something.

And here I thought I was doing good when I watched all of Gosei in 7 sittings...

Only six episodes? This show drags more than Mrs. Doubtfire, I could only bear to do six. (I actually finished two more after posting that so it's eight but still) Any more and I'd be hearing that repetative fight music and "so-eechee-kuh" in my sleep.

Like damn man people are gonna start wondering where I've been. my friends are gonna have me declared dead if I tried to do that many eps at a time.

You guys much be watching abridged versions of these shows.

Four sittings, a 49 episode series, let's just make that easy and dice it up to 12 eps a sitting. That's 12 22 minute episodes, 264 minutes total, that's four sittings of 4.4 hours. That's like watching two theatrical movies back to back four times. 3 sittings and I'd be doing deep dramatic breathing on the toilet.

Kamen Rider Decade episode 5:

It was ok...I guess. Apparently the writers forgot that Garuru, Bashaa, and Doggan aren't Fangires. I don't get how Wataru's dad was able to just take Kivat by force, because it is implied in Kiva that a Kivat must either be passed down to you, or the Kivat must choose you. So, how was Wataru's dad able to just take Kivat by force like that? Yuuske was great, I liked his interactions with Wataru...poor guy got wrecked this episode though...Wataru even dug his fangs into him. I still don't get where this Wataru came from, or why the original Wataru left his world. I liked Tsukasa's speech at the end, and the fight scenes were good. Ryuki's world is next

Here's the thing about Kamen Rider Decade: The "AU" in "AU Rider Worlds" means "Alternate Universe." When Decade travels through the worlds, he travels through the dimensions. Natsumi's home world is the world where all Kamen Rider fiction occurs, from [I]Kamen Rider to [I]Kamen Rider Wizard[I] (although Kamen Rider Den-O might be an exception). The original Wataru is probably in his homeworld. Since the Kiva in this episode is from an alternate universe, it stands to reason that perhaps the way Kiva works in this alternate universe is different, too.