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FerrousMaelstrom

09-12-2018 04:33 AM

While I want Tsukuyomi to become a Rider, her name being in the Driver is no confirmation - we've had sounds which just never get used, remember?

For Drive Get Wild, Ultra Technic, Get Next, Super Dead Heat, Dash Formula, Over Tridoron, Over Heartron, Ultra Fruits, Super Special. Only Ganbarizing for Ghost. For Build Kangaroo, Special, Premium, Ichigo, Kuuga, Agito, Ryuki, Faiz, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, Kiva, Decade, Double, OOO, Showa Rider, Heisei Rider, Kyouryuu +F1, Kappumen + Energy Drink, Keisatsukan. Suffice to say, that's a lot and we may well have the same here.

As for Agito, they got Takanori Kikuchi back for Gorider, so maybe they should try to get him again. Then they could lampshade the hell out of it, and use the .5 episode to explain it to the kids.

Omnikaiser

09-12-2018 04:55 AM

maybe the agito arc will revolve around a Gills plot just like in Decade ? and we would get Another Gills ?

AkibaSilver

09-12-2018 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Librarian (Post 725904)

Like I've said before, Woz gets his books from a library. *Points at screen name.*

But in this instance it's too obvious to not point out. Secondaries are their actual names. Plain as day as we see with Geiz and how the 1.5 was so explicit about the meanings in names and how her name means counting moons/a lunar calendar/a form of telling time. Which is consistent with the lead riders naming motifs. It takes some pretty heavy mental gymnastics to ignore that naming fact about secondaries with how they've blatantly spelled it out to audiences. Spelled it out literally on the belt too. The hacked belt itself marks that 3rd rider's year as 2068 which is also the same as Geiz, which points to it being her.

You're basing this patern from exactly one other rider. It's not secondaries, it's one secondary. And, to second what others have said, it's most likely in the driver on the off chance they decide to make her a rider, because, unlike, Ex-Aid, they can't just release her own collectible and expect it to work.

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And it's fact that they have been discussing female leads for a series. Not "should they" but "when". Which is soon-ish. Give or take less than 5 years. Reactions to Zi-O's rumored to have been and other little 'pitch' leaks sped that up to sooner though.

Who exactly is 'they'? If you mean the fans, that has precisely zero bearing on what toei will do, considering fan discussions usually don't relate at all to whatever the series is actually like. See, for example, Doctor Who, where, if rumours always turned out to be true, we'd have had a female doctor back in 1981.

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Originally Posted by Librarian (Post 725929)

I can guarantee you that "another" came up before the first script was even written, and that agito was deliberately pointed out. You can call it incorrect all you want, that doesn't make it not true that it was deliberately picked out already knowing about Another Agito. I can tell you that for fact outright that it came up in the initial pitch.

Again, no proof, just your speculation against someone else, but alright.

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Like I can guarantee you there were 'show notes' about Agito and Another Agito, but it wasn't fully decided how to use them or what to cut. But nothing full depth, as that was likely an open show notes area for them to do material they were more familiar with. As well as have maybe not fully known what actors are going to be available for it either, which determines a lot too.

Like for example. I can tell you flat out the show will only focus on the 19 heisei, while that's technically true, it's not entirely accurate. Movies are likely to be known to cover showa too(which isn't show, I did say show will be heisei not movie), and spoiler warning: after den-o the show will start to have showa too. But if asked about that, the response is going to be 'we haven't gotten to that' / 'haven't written that yet.'

But the show outline/show notes itself does say "After Den-O then showa riders can be added." Can't get any deeper into spoilers than that.

I mean, you've got no citation for any of this, so it seems like wild speculating, but go off, I guess.

NeonZ

09-13-2018 08:17 AM

We could also just not get an Another Agito. Both Ex-Aid and Build had less than 20 unique monster suits, and although Ghost had more than that it was because the early Ganma weren't even full suits, often just new coats - only some of them even having unique heads.

Zi-O will have tons of Rider suits due to the ridearmor system, so it's possible it will hurt the number of monsters again. I could see them moving away from the Another Rider system after December (coinciding with the debut of the Decade form which is considered an upgrade and Heisei Generations Forever) or starting to repeat some (like an Another Build Hazard that's just a color swap of Another Build).

Edit: On the other hand, I guess at this point we don't know what transformations the Time Jackers themselves are getting. If they just become more Another Riders rather than actual Riders or Chaser/Nightrogue/Bloodstalk types I guess it's possible they'd be able to cover everything.

FerrousMaelstrom

09-13-2018 08:45 AM

Re not getting Another Riders for everything: I hope not but I wouldn't be surprised. I now kind of want to tally the monsters and see which series had the most. Based on what we know so far we have 16 Zi-O forms, 6 Geiz forms and one Oma Zi-O form. And given that only one of those is a proper upgrade (as in super form, final form, etc), they'll probably be more even if we don't have another Rider.

Sunred

09-13-2018 08:46 AM

In other news, I want Another Faiz to be this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqGQyMF5a_0

Blade Fang

09-14-2018 08:10 PM

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