Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 301203)

Compared to Nago who for half the series was either an asshole with a superiority complex to everyone around him or stupidly homicidal when ever he saw Kiva,Wateru who tries to commit paradox-suicide when the girl he liked stupidly got herself killed,Taiga an ungrateful brat who tried to force a girl he knows likes his best friend to marry him then has the gall to ask said best friend to join him,Kengo who because of an accident becomes a huge asshole to people trying to help him.

Note: I would have said Shizuka but she wasn't in the series as much.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 301197)

Hatred of Fangires? What about his hatred of Kiva? I couldn't stand to make it any farther into Kiva, but all his stupid, reckless hatred towards Kiva seemed to only exist because some old idiot who makes ridiculous names for his company existing of four damn people told him Kiva was a threat to humanity, despite Kiva only ever killing Fangires and not people. Nago would eta a spoonfull of dirt if you told him it was chocolate, but not before staring intently at it with really bad acting before saying this dirt was what will prove him as the ultimate human being or some garbage.

Kiva was just a REALLY dumb show with a few sprinkles of good and excellent flare. It was honestly painful how many self-entitled swaggering idiots populated Kiva, from the "I'll just let this monster kill this innocent woman so I can really weakly insult him without an audience and take the moral high ground" or "I'm so injured and in serious pain so when a random passer-by comes to help me I'll punch his God-damn lights out", and the more I think of it the more I totally cannot blame you for thinking Heisei is full of dicks if this is 1/3rd of your Heisei exposure.

Honestly, the people in Kiva seem wors ethan the Fangire, since at least Wolf guy and the Fangire usually kill people for sustinance. Not a single character in Kiva gives a shit about human life, and it's revolting.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 301220)

I like how my critique of Accel's design exploded into a Kiva bashing session :lol

After I finish W I kinda wanna give Kiva another chance just to join in on the bashing.

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 301222)

Well Kiva is a fangire too.:p

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 301203)

Compared to Nago who for half the series was either an asshole with a superiority complex to everyone around him or stupidly homicidal when ever he saw Kiva,Wateru who tries to commit paradox-suicide when the girl he liked stupidly got herself killed,Taiga an ungrateful brat who tried to force a girl he knows likes his best friend to marry him then has the gall to ask said best friend to join him,Kengo who because of an accident becomes a huge asshole to people trying to help him.

I said Megumi was the smartest in Kiva because she was the only member of the BSO willing to consider that Kiva wasn't evil and the most likable because she doesn't spend half the series being a bitch to people or go emo and try to off herself because someone she liked got themselves killed.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 301241)

Kiva is frustrating because it's not just bad, but it has a shitload of good things about it. But they're mostly superficial. The suit, song and bike? All incredible. Feel like they belong in a different show.

It's just frustrating. Kiva himself isn't even that bad, but the writers feel like confused 14 year olds writing for confused 14 year old, but there's one guy there trying to make the show work and appeal to others. Kiva is a terrible show I really, really want to like, but can't.

Also, Accel's design didn't lead to this. Yellow Ranger mentioning Kiva led to Kiva bashing.

Well guess there really is no point to continue now that THAT little bomb's been dropped.

Shit.

Now I'm SUPER glad I didn't continue Kiva. If Megumi legitimately is the smartest... God damn.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 301248)

Spoilers, spoilers everywhere.

I kinda feel like we should make individual threads for each series as this IS the Kamen Rider sub forum. It seems weird to have all the chat in a single thread where everyone is tripping over one another's spoilers, I dunno why this has never bothered me before.

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 301250)

Well I figured since the show is 6 years old spoilers were unnecessary...oops.