Yes, exactly. Like when Vestra said that when she first met Jenny the Doctor saved her life. And you're left saying "When dafaq did that happen?!"

I don't really find it all that confusing. The whole point of River Song is that she's a character that both the Doctor and the audience never meet in the right order. Its an excellent concept for time travelling show, the only problem is River is an incredibly grating character.

The whole Vastra/Strax/Jenny origins thing I'll agree with though. They're far too prominent for characters with no proper introduction.

Well to be fair, the explanation didn't even make sense in library episode. her ghosting device (neural relayer?) was vaporized when see died along with her suit, so how did the doctor out it in the sonic if it didn't exist anymore?

To be fair, I feel like I kind of need to watch Silence of the Library again and then rewatch all of Eleven's adventures again. I was so overwhelmed by Moffat's choice to make even the simplest plot point convoluted, I actually remember practically nothing of Smith's run of the Doctor.

And so I really wanna join in when people debate all the continuity and stuff but I can barely remember the finer details of Part 1 of Season 7, let alone further back.

say you want to wath all the episodes of river in order how would you put it.

Off the top of my head (and with an episode list handy)...

A Good Man Goes to War
The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon
Let's Kill Hitler
The Wedding of River Song
Most of the mini episodes from the series 6 box set
The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone
Wedding of River Song epilogue
The Pandorica Opens/The Big Bang
The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon again
A Good Man goes to War again
The angels take Manhattan
Last Night mini episode
Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead
The Name of the Doctor

I think that's it. Some of the middle ones are kinda vague.

The Doctor knew, one day, River would go to the Library. He knew he could never prevent it because it became a fixed point in time. So he needed to do something to help Save her. He knew, having lived through it before, that her suit would be destroyed when she was. But he also knew he could give her something. Consider the Sonic like... an offsite backup, or thumb drive. For your soul. The entire time she had the sonic it had been saving her. Not just that one day, but every day. Thats how he did it.

Children In Need Special: Born Again- 18/11/05

The Doctor's just regenerated into David Tennant, and Rose isn't happy.
NOTE: This was a special made for the charity telethon 'Children In Need', set between 'The Parting of the Ways' and 'The Christmas Invasion'.

Plot
We get a recap of the last few minutes of Parting of the Ways, and then the regeneration. We continue on, with 10 setting the TARDIS to Barcelona (the planet). Rose is, understandably, freaked at what's just happened: her 'boyfriend(?) just exploded and got replaced by a man asking what he looks like. They talk, several references happen, and he explains that Nine is never coming back. They also mention leaving Jack behind, and the Doctor mentions he has a planet to fix, so they dumped him. (Sure!...)He tries to calm her down by setting the TARDIS to Earth, and succeeds when he says the first words he has (in his timeline) said to her: 'Run'. However, he coughs up some golden energy, and comments on the regeneration going wrong. This is when he decides to break the time limit and starts pushing the TARDIS to breaking point. Rose tries to calm him down, but he ignores her, and keeps on going, alarms sounding, the TARDIS heading towards Christmas Day, 2006. It's a short episode, so isn't heavy on plot, but it covers the difference between series 1 & 2, so is worth it. 4/10

Characters
Rose cries, and we quickly establish Ten as a man with a short attention span and a large gob. He talks almost all the way through this episode. 6/10

Scare Factor
Ten coughs up some energy. That's all that could even be considered scary that isn't a flashback. 1/10

Favourite Quote: Hopping for our lives! Tenth Doctor

Overall
Worth a watch if you're planning to watch Christmas Invasion, but no reason to specifically watch this alone. There isn't really anything stand out. 5/10

S2 CS: The Christmas Invasion- 25/12/05

The Tenth Doctor suffers regeneration sickness as the Earth comes under attack from aliens. Who ROCK!

Plot
Picking up from where Born Again left off, we see Mickey and Jackie preparing for Christmas, when they hear the roar of distant engines. They run into the usual landing spot, commenting on how Rose is coming back, but there is no TARDIS. It comes crashing out of the vortex, and scrapes past some stuff before landing. Ten stumbles out, says MERRY CHRISTMAS! to Jackie and Mickey, before fainting! Rose comes out, and attempts to explain. They stick him in bed, and Mickey and Rose go Christmas shopping. Because that's what people do when their best friend could be dying! Things are going fine, until they are attacked by Santas armed with musical instruments. They flee home, where they get attacked by a Christmas Tree. It wrecks half the flat, with Rose attempting to wake up the Doctor, before succeeding by saying 'Help Me'. He sonics the robot Santas , which run away. However, he says that they are only 'pilot fish' and the real threat is bigger.

Meanwhile, Britain has a Space Service! (With working rockets!!!!) They launched Guinevere 1 to Mars, but it gets intercepted by aliens. On live TV. They quickly put out a claim of 'hoax' but the guy running it goes to UNIT, where we meet with Harriet Jones (Prime Minister). They are tracking the spaceship which has intercepted the satellite, when they receive a transmission from the Sycorax. Mickey and Rose watch it via the Buffalo password (hacking, for the win), where they discover the translation isn't working. Something to do with the Doctor not being 'awake' or something.

The Sycorax think this is a good time to brainwash 1/3 of the Earth's population into standing on the edge of a high building. UNIT goes into overdrive, and the American President wants to take it over. Harriet Jones (PM) refuses, and inquires into "Torchwood", even though she shouldn't know about it. The government attempt to contact the Sycorax , and get teleported aboard the ship for their trouble, where two of them die of electric whip. Rose wants to get to safety, so she drags Mickey, her mum and the Doctor to the TARDIS. Mickey attempting to tune the TARDIS TV, but gets detected by the Sycorax, and they end up zapped onto the spaceship, with Jackie stranded behind. Rose, not knowing they've left, goes outside, but gets grabbed and screams. Mickey drops his cup of tea(!) and runs out the door to help Rose, but does nothing. The tea, meanwhile, starts fizzing as it hits the TARDIS circuits...

Rose attempts to bluff the Sycorax with random name dropping, but they laugh in her face. The leader starts speaking, but ends up speaking English, even though he only speaks Sycoraxic and would never dirty his tongue with primitive bile. Everyone turns towards the TARIDS as their brains finally work, and we see the Tenth Doctor standing there, in Arthur Dent pyjamas. He says hello to all his friends, until the leader gets his attention. Ten, in response, launches into a long speech about how he's new, how humanity is special, and how he can't resist pressing a big red button (it frees the humans on the rooftops.)The Sycorax leader challenges the Doctor to combat, and the Doctor loses his hand. I'm sure it splatted on the floor or something, and it'll never be brought up again. Ten just grows a new one, and proceeds to completely beat the Sycorax leader, making him swear to leave. The Sycorax leader tries to kill the Doctor as he leaves, and he ends up dead for his trouble, via a Satsuma and a handily placed floor panel.

The Sycorax leave, the travellers end up back on Earth, and everyone is happy:) Until Harriet Jones has Torchwood blow up the leaving spaceship. In retaliation for this retaliation, the Doctor takes down Harriet Jones government with six words, destroying Britain's golden age and paving the way for Harold Saxon and the government seen in Children Of Earth!Great work! The group goes home and has a Christmas dinner, while the Doctor picks out a new outfit (we see Four's scarf!). At the end, it snows (sortof) and the Doctor and Rose leave for a new adventure. This episode deals with Post Regeneration Disorder again, and has a well paced plot, with some good points. 8/10

Characters
The Tenth Doctor, in the ten minutes he is awake, makes a good impression, with a large gob, and a well set personality; Calm at first, but don't mess with him. Rose's reaction to his regeneration seems genuine, and her panic plays well. 7/10

Scare Factor
Blood Control could be worse, but it doesn't stretch too far. 4/10

Torchwood: Blows up a Spaceship

Overall
This episode is very good, and, once away from the Christmas theme, has a nice plot and is a good introduction episode for The Tenth Doctor. Next time, we go to New Earth and meet up with a Sheet of Skin! 8/10

So I'm watching a classic Baker episode of Doctor Who, The Power of Kroll Part One, and near the begining where Romana is on a small embankment trying to garner a reading.. The song the Doctor's playing on the Reed, I swear on Moune's tiny butt, is the hook from Imaginary Places by Busdriver! (A song on Tony Hawk's Underground for those who remember)

o-o Mind Blown

Just saw this theory on Facebook:

Jack Harkness is the Face of Boe
Jack Harkness cannot Die
Jack Harkness was a Time Agent, or Pretends to Be
Jack Harkness wears a Vortex Manipulator
Dorium Maldovar sold River Song a VM off "The Wrist of a Very Handsome Time Agent"
Dorium Maldovar works with the Headless Monks from time to time.
The Headless Monks decapitate people
The Face of Boe is a Head with no Body

Mind Blown.

Are they trying to suggest that they decaptited Jack? Because Jack can grow body parts back so that wouldn't exactly leave him as a head...

I don't know.. But he did say that though he keeps coming back alive he is still aging.

Wow. This is one crazy theory that makes sense

This isn't the double post you're looking for. Move along...

S2 E1: New Earth- 15/04/06

The Doctor takes Rose further than she'[s ever gone before, and meets an old foe (Not the Daleks)

Plot
The Doctor takes Rose to New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New York to a) see more of the universe and b) find out who sent his Psychic Paper a message: Ward 14, please hurry. They go to a hospital and, after getting put through a human car wash, arrive on two different floors: 10 on the right floor, and Rose in the basement. Where she gets led by a weird tattoo person into a basement with CASSANDRA in it. It turns out she survived through taking skin from her back (Yes, she's talking out of her-). She sticks her brain into Rose's head, and decides to comment on her new body. Fanservice ensues.

When she finally joins 10 on the top floor, he comments on how the Cat Nun-Doctors have a cure for everything - even being turned to stone. Rossandra leads the Doctor to a secret underground cavern, right after giving him a HUGE KISS, which ten puts down to his 'natural charm'. The cavern contains many cells with people in them - clones the hospital have been breeding and infecting with every disease to extrapolate cures from. (Not sure how that works in biology, and whether you can have every disease ever, but, you know, scientific licence.) Cassandra threatens to tell everyone about the scheme, but the nuns threaten to kill them. So she smashes a pipe, which somehow causes the release of many zombies (Yes, they're pretty much zombies. It spreads through touch. Even the airborne ones.) One of the Cat Doctor Nuns gets turned into a zombie, and they start to chase the Doctor, Rossandra and Chip (Tattoo guy). Chip hides, and the others run up a ladder. The Doctor forces Cassandra to leave Rose's body, and she goes into Ten. Rose forces her to leave the Doctor, so she goes back into Rose. This goes on until Cassandra goes into in of the zombies. 10 and Rose escape but Rose gets repossessed.

The Doctor cures the zombies by hooking up the IV Drips to the human lift washes, and washes all the disease out of their systems with Cassandra's help. (Again, I don't know biology but...) A new race is created, and the Cat Nun Doctors are arrested. The Doctor also finally gets to discuss the reason he went their in the first place: The Face of Boe! He 'was' dying of old age but now he feels better! He teleports off, and says he'll tell him next time. So yeah... Cassandra, meanwhile, possesses Chip, and starts dying, but now doesn't care, because she's lived her life. The Doctor takes her back in time to sort out a paradox and give her past self a chance at happiness. The End! Overall, this episode is a good start to the series. It is enjoyable and fun to watch, even without the Billie Piper fanservice. 8/10

Characters
Not much development here. Cassandra gets your standard 'villain learns from their mistake' plot leading up to her helping the Doctor. Nothing much for Rose or Ten. 4/10

Scare Factor
Zombie levels of psychological horror (not gore, although all diseases do give you creepy pox) 6/10

Favourite Quote: Goodness me, I'm a man! (Tenth Doctor, possessed by Cassandra)

Overall
This is a good series starter, with enjoyable moments and the setting up of plot points (Face of Boe...). It is really worth a watch. Next time, we get to see David Tennant use his Scottish accent! :D Oh, and a werewolf with Queen Victoria

Also, hearing your thoughts on these episodes are really good. Please don't stop posting just because the series is over!

Apparently the BBC are making some big Doctor Who announcement at midnight (I assume UK time, so in just under 3 hours :p). Rumours are already circulating about it being Matt Smith stepping down, but it'll be interesting to see what it turns out to be.

EDIT: Well shit, the official BBC announcement isn't looking good :(

Matt Smith to quit Doctor Who after Christmas special

Yep. Smith's leaving.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/t...s-special.html

I'm both sad and happy.

I love Smith's Doctor and I'd hate to see him go, but its also important to know when a portrayal begins to overstay their welcome and so this is a good thing in itself.

Matt leaving sucks, but three years is about average for a Doctor. Hopefully the new guy, who may or may not be Ben Daniels, will be as surprisingly fun of a change as SMith was from Tennant.

Also this. Very much this. Tennant got a little too close to that line and I'd rather be left wanting more.

The official Doctor Who magazine are tweeting it now so I'm inclined to say its legit.

Really saddened by this news. I love Smith's Doctor, and if anything I think its Moffat's writing style that's outstayed its welcome rather than Smith himself. Would have loved to see what he'd be like under another head writer.

It'd be awesome if Damian Lewis becomes the next Doctor. He's both ginger, slightly older and a great actor.

Yeah it's a shame such a great Doctor got so few great stories.

I think Tennant already had, his hype from the fandom is quite annoying at times.

This is horrible news. While Moffat's tenor directing the series hasn't been perfect, Smith's Portrayal of him has been. I loved the quarkyness, I loved everything about his time. And.. I'm really sad. Matt Smith is an excellent Doctor.

I agree, I rather we keep Matt and get rid of Moffat. As always I'm excited for the debut of a new Doctor, but him being another Moffat Doctor is making me worried.

This, cant we just admit that Moffat sucked, we were wrong and he works better on single episodes and just move on to someone else? That way Smith can get the adventures his Doctor deserves.

I wouldn't go that far. Moffat's first season was, for me, the best single year the show's ever had. Series six was pretty good, too. I think it's just this year that things haven't really clicked and I blame the split schedule and more episodic structure as much as I blame the Moff. And he's still much, much better than Davies.

I've actually liked his latest season, even with the split, the best since it's the first time he didn't add twists to other twists just for the sake of more twists. It is one thing to strive for that 'water cooler moment' and another entirely to just make your show needlessly convoluted.

I preferred Davies way more, at least until he became so ridiculously self indulgent.

I'm going with you on this one. Moffat's first season remains my favorite in Doctor Who's New Series. On average, I really do prefer Moffat's run compared to Davies.

Davies was so far up his own ass by the end that no daylight could get in. It really is hard for me to watch most of Tennant's last year of specials.

Granted, Moffat can be quite self-indulgent too, but I don't think he has become as bad as Davies.

That is the points where I hold my hands up, and gladly take Moffat's convoluted mess.

Water of Mars was hard to watch, but I enjoyed End of Time.

Opposite for me, Waters of Mars was really the best thing in the specials year.

Yeah, I hold Moffat's first series as being utterly fantastic too (not quite the heights of Eccleston's for me, but damn close). 6 and 7 have had their moments, but otherwise sadly done very little for me.

I think overall I've enjoyed RTDs run more than Moffat's, but both showrunners are incredibly guilty of being so far up themselves. I just have a little more respect for RTD because on the whole he's done a hell of a lot more for the franchise than Moffat.

The scene in the Eleventh Hour, where the Doctor is introducing himself, is the ultimate expression of what Moffat can do when he tries.

I'll miss Matt Smith. He plays a good Doctor, and I really like his portrayal during series 5. I agree with most of you that Steven Moffat should give someone else a go. Series 6 had a good plot but could have done without The Wedding of River Song's alternate dimension and the break in the middle of the year. The first half of Series 7 was very good, but Part B has some widely varying episode. My favourite is probably 'The Lodger'.

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Ugh...not only is there the scale change, but Character Options have started introducing chase figures into the waves. The ones in this wave are a Cyberman with the blue chest bit and arm mounted gun and Dalek Sec.

So...a monster as it appeared for the majority of its story and a relatively major recurring villain? Right.

Why is Sec a chase figure? Sec is a cool Dalek character and design!