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The mecha certainly is interesting looking. I'll give the show a shot, just hope it's better/less over the top childish than Kyoryuger.
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OMG...........this is must be a dream...must be....
Worst Super sentai design ever. Even an amature designer could make better design than this. I couldn't believe that BANDAI / TOEI confirm this horrible design. Tokyuger should feel sorry for their senior sentai series.... :( |
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So I like the Tokkyuger stuff, but it makes me wonder, did PLEX/Bandai/Toei anticipate such negative feedback? And more importantly, what do Japanese kids think? Do you think they'll like it?
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Red could've still been the chest. Only it would've had the front pop off, the rest fold on itself so the sides connected together, and the roof faced forward. Leaving the front of the boiler to become the chest piece as it does now. Green could've still been the leg it is. But the top third would've folded to become half the waist piece, and the rest would've been the leg with the cab becoming the foot. Blue would've done the same. But wouuld've had an extra peice to snap onto the waist and cover the train connections and give him a proper belt/waist. Pink and Yellow would've still been arms. With their fronts folding up to become shoulders, and the hands coming out of the back of the train. And because of the design would've had proper elbow joints. Inexcusable with all that room in those damn things that it doesn't have them now. Lazy. And still could keep the gimmick about different trains becoming different hand weapons. |
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Besides, it would cause lots of gaps in the train modes, and ruin the rainbow look they were going for. Acceptable sacrifices, perhaps, but likely not to Bandai who is trying to appeal to train collectors too. |
All I'm going to say is that they don't have to look like what they're protecting.They could have the mecha finisher be it pulling out the sword and dashing toward the enemy on the Rainbow Rail.
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Looking at the fan art for the possible sixth train, I think it would have been much better if green was all the legs and blue the body. Maybe...
Either way if the purple train thing turns out to be true, then I think I can dig that. Breaks it up a bit more, rainbow be damned =p |
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The blue and green trains look similar to the ones used on this guy:
http://www.tfw2005.com/resources/rid...railracer-645/ It's three trains combining into one, but it's still more of a way I'd picture a train combiner over just slapping them all together side-by-side like this new Sentai show does. Like some of have said, maybe people will warm up to it, but right now it's a big 'Maybe'. |
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You aren't someone who designs or manufactures toys for small children though. It's easy to describe something without giving real thought to how things translate from concept to reality while at the same time keeping in mind how it stays within whatever budget they have to work with. And elbow joints? What DX toys have you been buying? |
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Sentai bots are not meant to be that intricate. It's part of the charm to be blocky and immobile. Yes, recent Sentai designs are more simple than is usual, but Sentai can't go in the opposite direction and become Transformers. Again, your ideas are too Transformer-ish. It'll be better to persuade Hasbro to give it a go than Bandai. Not only would super-articulation and intricate transformations compromise the stability, solidness, playability and price of the mecha, many fans would vehemently oppose them, such as Den-O and I myself. We like our toys to be clicky and solid. Besides those third party toys you listed are not only fragile and meant mostly for display, they also cost about a whole season's worth of Sentai mecha. And you want that for just one robo? :lol We have plenty of super-articulated robots: Transformers, Soul of Chogokin, etc. Even Sentai has them in SRC and the minipla. The DX could benefit from some articulation but it mustn't go down the path of super-articulation. |
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These are incredibly important factors in your argument :lol |
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Sentai has given us articulation before, you know. And you cant tell me with all that room in the arms and legs they couldn't have given us pull out super clicky joints. Or atleast a head that moves. |
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And I guess the point is, articulation is icing on the cake. It is not necessary. Even Transformers proved this with Armada, the second best-selling line (or so I heard) in Transformers that is mostly composed of bricks. :lol |
It seems like we go through this everytime there's a new Sentai or Rider series.
At least most of us agree that we've had better designed robots. But we only have the few pictures of Tokkuoh to go on until we get more. If we get multi angle shot perhaps we'll get a better as to why this was designed the way it was. |
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Now I give you some Sentai Mechs couldn't do joints. Kyoryuzin couldn't, neither could Gosei Great, or Gokai-Oh. But this. This thinh, which I've nicknamed Ronald (Thomas the Tank Engine combiners little brother), could've had joints. Atleast a head swivle! |
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Sentai, clearly Super Sentai is not interested in articulation. :lol |
RyuseiOh had elbows, too (Kind of. They didn't bend in the right direction, but they were there :lol)
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Kain. Maybe find another word to use besides that one.
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The problem is that the vintage look should be kept to the show, and the toys should represent what we can do today. |
Thing is, I don't consider lanky proportions and lazy transformations "vintage." It's only "vintage" if it's a vintage toy. That kind of stuff on a modern day mech is called "bad design."
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I mean look at FlashKing. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5aFWwE8Hj_Y |
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One of my best friends has a Flash King, I've always been jelly of it. |
See, that's what I consider cool vintage. Blocks with angular "V" designs, lots of contrasting colour placement, detail...
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None of this really strikes me as having a "vintage" look. Simplistic, sure, but that doesn't really entail vintage to me.
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I agree, vintage is an inaccurate word. "Retro" works for the suits but not the mecha.
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So, rumor suggests that the next Ressha after Tank & CarCarrier will be a big purple add-on. Maybe from the 6th ranger?
http://i.imgur.com/kXUOHYa.jpg |
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