Everything about Kuuga is awful, the only redeemable part is Ichijou but he is ultimately wasted.

Everything I've seen of Kuuga makes me dislike it. The general tone, the single rider, the maddening amount of useless forms, the "lol so grimdark epic serious lookit kids die" attempts at drama. It almost reminds me of a bad fanfiction.

It IS a bad fanfiction. There is no plot, no characterization, no growth or trajectory.

Split Lip's reason for disliking it is the primary reason for why I haven't watched it yet.
What everyone sees as "Mature and dark" screams "Mean spirited and violent," and considering Kuuga's tone seems to be it's selling point, I've been hesitant to watch it.

It isn't just mean spirited and dark, it's gratuitous. It rubs your face in the body count, the suicides and the dead children.

All Godai can do is cook curry and do a goofy thumbs up while every single person in the show swoons over him. Even though he's such an ineffectual hero thousands of people die under his watch over the course of the series, even in a show with high police presence and a rider kick that can destroy the world.

Yeah, I made it through the whole series but it was a slog. There was nothing I found redeeming about the show. Agito handled an almost cookie cutter story (in the general plot details at least) and did it so much better.

Honestly, I feel like the reason Kuuga is so praised as a "masterpiece" is because it was the first rider series in a long time, and was a different approach. People mistook the flashiness and gratuitous and laughable body count for quality, and with nothing recent to compare it to, it got a free pass. Likewise Agito was technically better than Kuuga, and similar in style and approach, so it was also held in high regard.

I guess we just wait for the revisionists.

Faiz 31.

Oh God this was like the embodiment of everything I hate about this show. Poor continuity, ridiculous geographical jumps, firm disconnect between Rider and character, monsters appearing from nowhere and then dying within thirty seconds of screen time, unclear characterization and personal motivations, no plot.

Is this show gonna start any point soon? Considering I still have another eight or so hours of Faiz left, I'd rather just cut my losses now, than waste any more time on this show.

Also dat cameraman: http://i.imgur.com/KheUGPO.png

Honestly? It gets worse in the last ten episodes. Hibiki has a less frustrating finale and that show had to deal with the writers and producer being fired and the script for the finale being written and rewritten while it was filming.

Looking back at what we just discussed about the Grongi, I'm not convinced that Faiz isn't also a show that would benefit from not having subs. At least then you could just focus on the cool fights. :p