Super Samurai Halloween Special "Trickster Treat" Discussion
 

Just as we reach the point everyone (who is still watching) wants to see, Super Samurai breaks away for some Halloween hi-jinx!

Discuss here!

Oh god, it's Shinkenger Returns. That wasn't even good in Shinkenger!

What're you talking about? Shinkenger Returns was hilarious!

I stand by my statement. Only good thing in Returns was Kotoha's feudal Japan outfit (*drools*). The rest of it was a lame filler episode that was way to long, not very funny, and a complete waste of time.

...huh, sounds like a normal Samurai episode. Should fit it nicely. :p

Know what I'd like to discuss? How much I want to see the end of the cliffhanger from the first week. Nick, you suck.

I'd like to discuss the series finale. Samurai has overstayed its welcome. Hell it overstayed its welcome a year ago.

Pretty much in agreement. But then I haven't thought much of any Sentai "returns" film so far.

So interesting thing about this episode it was 100% stock footage, there was no original footage used for this episode, I think the only part I'm not sure about is the unmorphed fight sequence it looked like the way it was used and shot it might have been from something else we haven't seen yet but I'm not sure. As a man who enjoys making film I will say that it an impressive feat that they were able to do that, However outside of that it was a typical episode of samurai not really fun not really great and A LOT of bad puns.

The second half of the episode was decent at best but the first half was like WTF????? 0.5/5.

Did anyone else notice that Mako was in this episode?

Mako's been dead since 2006...

Well played.

But in all seriousness, did anyone else notice Mako in the idol footage?

Mako from Shinkenger was in the concert footage, which they blurred her face and they re-used scenes from several episodes:

Jayden calling the Claw Armor Megazord was from A Crack in the World

The unmorphed fight footage was from Samurai Forever

Some crowd shots for the concert were taken from He Ain't Heavy Metal, He's My Brother

The Octoroo and Xandred shots were not from Shinkenger Returns and I can't figure out where they came from until I see the episode again. One Shinkenger episode that Xandred striking Octoroo came from I found earlier but now I lost the episode number.

I think they really missed out on an opportunity to have LightZord talk in this episode. I mean, the sushi showdown between Genta and Silver Sushi was awesome- why not have LightZord talk just this once? It's only a dream after all.

And you know what else? Shinkenger Returns made more sense than Trickster Treat, and Shinkenger Returns had Takeru, Chiaki, Ryuunosuke, and Genta dress up as girls pretending to be boys, and Kotoha as a girl pretending to be a boy that had a crush on Mako who was actually a boy!

Look. I know Samurai is basically Shinkenger with very minor changes and is otherwise a direct translation. But this episode was just plain lazy. It was almost completely stock footage, and even the stock footage looked godaweful. The acting went back in time to how bad season one was. Looked as though every actor just phoned it in from space. And the plot was... I can't think of a word to describe how bad the plot was for this episode.

Samurai is so horrible that I'm just going to finish the series by watching Shinkenger.

No, Sentai! You'll destroy the very fabric of all that which is still left of the very tattered legacy of Shinkenger!

Although I will admit, it is very distracting to see Gold Ranger rapidly gain and lose weight throughout a fight scene.

Going back over the episode, I'm noticing a few things:

In the concert part, they did reuse all the footage from He Ain't Heavy Metal, He's My Brother. Also, they didn't just re-use it once, they used it TWICE. The second time, they took the same shot of the audience and mirrored the shot, hoping we wouldn't notice it was the same people.

Also, the scene of them morphing was recycled footage from The Master Returns. Also, take note that because of the mixed footage from Samurai Forever and The Master Returns, their clothes are different when they're fighting and when they morph.

The scene of Xandred and Octoroo came from The Bull Zord. Part of that scene was in Shinkenger 33 that was left out in The Bull Zord.

Add another episode to that. The cockpit footage is from Kevin's Choice. This is hard to find since cockpit footage with all 6 rangers is hard to come by. After Super Samurai, it didn't happen again until Kevin's Choice.

So now we're up to reused footage from:

The Bull Zord - First Xandred scene
He Ain't Heavy Metal, He's My Brother - Concert scenes
Kevin's Choice - Cockpit scene
The Master Returns - Morph and Xandred striking Octoroo
A Crack in the World - Jayden calling Claw Armor Megazord
Samurai Forever - Unmorphed fight

Wow.

You should've watched Shinkenger to begin with. That said, I made that mistake to. I was lucky enough to realize it last year though.

Trying to go over the episode some more...

The Mako and Mia thing is just grating on my nerves. Just...why.

I am thinking since they're playing up Mia singing....even though it was for a different reason in Shinkenger and Mako didn't even WANT to be a singer, this could be placed in between He Ain't Heavy Metal, He's My Brother and The Master Returns.

Mia goes from tanned to pale to tanned and has a completely different facial structure?

http://s7.postimage.org/hypdwoljf/makomia.jpg

They re-used cockpit footage from Samurai Forever for this episode. Does that mean they're spoiling the finale for us?

Also, this is more like Samurai Forever discussion since it'll come into play in December in the discussion thread, but Kevin's spin sword prop just looks....weird.

http://s7.postimage.org/g9gaom5u3/kevinsword.jpg

Few more things I'm noticing, like the obvious wardrobe change in between shots because they mixed Samurai Forever and The Master Returns footage:

http://s7.postimage.org/l6tv9q7t7/clothingsamurai.jpg

Also, there are scenes of a Mega Red in the cockpit, which means they took footage for that cockpit scene from another episode that had to be from PRS, since footage of Mega Red, Blue and Green next to each other didn't happen in PRSS, I think, since most of the time, Jayden was Super or he was missing.

Another oops they made was in the Octo Spear Megazord. The footage with Red, Blue and Green next to each other shouldn't occur since Gold is next to Red in that formation:

http://s15.postimage.org/g271fizkb/placementoops.jpg

Just some observations....lol.

...Hey, I can contribute too! Antonio's suit actor doesn't match up with Genta's! If you notice, Gold Ranger is noticeably thinner than ShinkenGold when morphed, but spontaneously changes to ShinkenGold's size.

This show is ridiculously lazy. I really hope they don't pull this crap with megaforce.

It's part of the code of fandom :p

Never noticed.

Oh, you have no idea the analysis I had to do for some of my Dawson's Creek projects.

The Gold Ranger suits in general don't match up. I've lost count the amount of times in an episode the helmet has switched from shiny gold to matte gold.

can some one link me to the episode due to i want to watch it due to how they butched my fav shinkenger special

It's on Netflix if you have it: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Po...7?locale=en-MX

Well, the Gold Ranger helmet in Clash of the Red Rangers was more of brown than gold in the American footage.

For those who would like the episode is: Here

So I finally got around to watching this episode....and in hindsight I really wish I hadn't bothered.

Even the terrible episodes of Samurai I've tried to find at least one good thing in, but this episode was simply irredeemable crap. The links to Halloween were incredibly forced, the editing sloppy, the dialogue at an all time low and use of (entirely) source footage and stock footage utterly lazy. It speaks volumes when even your monster comments on the length transformation sequence.

Its embarrassing that last year's Halloween episode (which was a clip show) was better than this. The only thing it really has in its favour was that the Shinkenger episode it was based off was crap too.