Should there Be New Dark Riders again
 

i was curious and due to kabuto i remeber and miss Dark Rider of the main Rider this pole is a yes or no or maybe due to Wizard has the capabilaty to have one so what do you think should Dark/Evil kamen rider Come back

Oh absolutely!

Depends on what you mean. If you mean evil Riders like Shadow Moon or Eternal, hell yes. If you mean lame black repaint/clones of the main character, hell no. Hate the "Now face yourself" trope. Especially how Kabuto did it.

but in kabuto the dark rider wasnt just a clone of the character, this one was a good person!

What? Dark Kabuto wasn't anything like that, unless your basing the statement entirely on appearance.

Anyway, I think more "Dark" riders would be neat.

It was still lame and tacked on. Like some executive told them to put more Riders in the show even though 5 were already being wasted.

well they probly thought "well the show already sucks, why not milk more money just because there's nothing to lose"

Without him I don't think we'd ever see Tendou lose a fight :lol

Also, wasn't Kabuto fairly popular, coturos?

famous and imfamous are one in the same

I wouldn't mind seeing some short-term villains like the Shocker Riders again, but I wouldn't want another series like Ryuki or Kabuto where there are a lot of evil Riders.

I don't that, I just don't think they did it well at all.

coturos hates Kabuto as much as I hate Decade, remember? :p

difference is my hate is legitimate :p

Do you ever tire of being wrong? :P

tell me one redeaming factor of kabuto, and i decade

Ah. Okay.

The difference being that Kabuto wasn't crap like Decade :p
/Don't bother replying. Not starting this little debate again :lol

And I really like Dark Riders, but they tend to be spread too thin, which is annoying.

I think this sums up my view perfectly. The occasional evil Rider gives a nice bit of drama, but I prefer my Rider series to be overall heroic and more black and white.

Why bother, you won't listen :rolleyes

im able to listen, its just no one has really said anything about kabuto, the only arguements ive been in is mostly decade ones that came from me bashing kabuto

ps we should probly move to the watching thread

Depends on how you mean Dark.

I want more Riders like Tendou. Yes he was an arrogant dick that trolled like no other, but you loved watching him. There's no arguement like there is with Tsukasa. Kisaragi was fun and all, but we need less of that and more Tendou.

Meteor is a Rider is one I wish was a little Darker. They could've taken him in a very dark direction, but I think they didn't because of how much of a Dark he'd have looked compared to the poppy hyper Fourze.

Evil Riders work for me. Not ones that start evil, have a change of heart, than turn good. I want a completely, down to the bone, badass evil Rider. Just straight up wants to destroy everything. I'd love that.

i think you miss the point of being a rider....

Ouja says hi XD.

Bad time to mention I never finished Ryuki? xD

Show me, Cotorus, show me the rule in the book that says a Rider has to be good. A Rider means you have a Henshin Belt. Not that you have to be some pop tart of justice.

anti-hero and evil monster are different things you know, kamen riders were meant to put a smile on kids faces back in the 70's. what if i told you goseiknight is actually a crazed maniac that eventhough you've fought so hard to back up the goseigers, he would still slit your throat without a moment's notice

Yeah. Gaoh, Ohja, Nega Den-O, Dark Kiva, Glaive. None of them are Riders. :p

The only characters actually named "Kamen Rider" were Ichigou and Skyrider (If I recall).
For everyone else, it's just a descriptive title.

Yea.. And? Gosei Knight was a striaght up Dick. Remember, he had no care for Humans at first. Just saw us as part of the problem. Also has nothing to do with this. Neither does your arguement about why Toei first made Riders. Remember: Rider Ichigou and Nigo, and V3 I think, were made by DaiShocker to be Evil Riders.

There can be Evil Riders, Coturos.

if im correct i think he meant main character, not villian :rolleyes

And?

No one was talking about the titular character of a series to be an Dark Rider. We were just talking about bringing evil riders back into a series.

Which I would love to happen. I said this in one of OOO's polls, I rhymed!, Nega Den-O was SUCH a better villian for Den-O. And should've been in SO much more than one movie.

he only mentioned villians, i just was pointing out the flaw in his logic.

and dont get me wrong i'm with you on having a evil rider, if it was done like akibaranger and not being the main show and an adult series

Made a correction to your post lol. And it was Takeshi Hongo who was made into Ichigo by Shocker first, Hayato Ichimonji was kidnapped by Shocker to become Nigo to fight against the Ichigo, but Ichigo saved him before he was brainwashed. Shiro Kazami was found by Ichigo and Nigo after being attacked by one of Destron's monsters, and rebuilt him into V3 after he begged them while he was on the verge of death.

ANY villain would be a better villain for Den-O as opposed to Kai...

You do realize that there have been Evil Riders in the main series before.... right? Matrix just listed off a bunch. So... Your arguement is making no sense.

And that's why we keep you around, OOO :lol

Kai just seemed like a human Ryutaros to me. Could've been handled better, like actually have him be the Nega Den-O-esque rider for the series, who clashed with Den-O throughout before finally confronting him with the Imagin army in the end

ok let me clarify, are you saying main character or just a badass evil rider in general?

So much all of this. Nega would've made such a beautiful contrast to Ryotaros and Momo.

Den-O was a series that was about having tons of fun in between the stupid Airi/Yuuto plot, but then they realized they had a story to conclude (Which pretty much was "Who sent Ryuutaros") :p

Both.

I know. And I get it. I just want more Nega xD

Pretty much. I love the characters and the show (don't think Yuuto/Airi was stupid) but Kai was a kinda bland villain. It should have been some kind of evil Nogami from the future trying to twist time so that he ensured his evil oring or something.