Every KR should have more riders than two
 

Agito, Ryuki, Faiz, Blade, Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, Kiva & Gaim had more riders than two.

The only riders that had only two riders each are Decade, W, OOO, Fourze & Wizard. If only they had more riders.

Decade: If there was a second rider than Diend. If Diend was a third rider instead... this secondary rider should wield powers like Decade, instead transforms into secondary riders: Gills, Knight, Chalice, Kaixa, Ibuki, Gatack, Zeronos & IXA. Gokaiger -> Decade & Gokaisilver -> secondary rider.

W: If Kirihiko stayed alive, he would've been hiding in the shadows watching over Double. He would've received a Lost Driver from Shroud and became KR Nasca to help Double & Accel.

OOO: There was a lot of Greeed in OOO. Too bad there wasn't a reptile greeed to join the fray. Anyway, if the original OOO returned, he would've been reborn Dark OOO. And he'll seek to accomplish what was almost completed these 800 years.

Fourze: Meteor was the secondary rider, true. But if there was room for a zodiarts kamen rider, he'd be the opposite of Fourze. Fourze wants friends but the zodiarts rider sees the whole world & mankind his enemy. Eventually, Fourze helps the rider a little on balance, friend or foe. Let Meteor be the third rider instead. Those three riders, would've represented Utaoshi Rokuro, Gamou Mitsuaki & Emoto.

Wizard: True again, Beast is the secondary rider. But while Wizard has style rings based on a ruby, sapphire, emerald & topaz. Kizaki's group should have their own mage called Druid, with style rings based on an amethyst, amber, aquamarine & jade. Since Haruto is like Vash the Stampede, Kizaki's mage should be like Nicholas Wolfwood. Beast should be the third rider instead since during his final battle with Fueki, he set Chimera free. So Druid & Wizard are the only mages left.

Well except Mayu, Yuzuru & Yamamoto. Wish their designs weren't all mages.

Decade and W both featured 3 Riders in series (Decade, Diend, Abyss in DCD, and Double, Accel, Joker in W), while Wizard featured 4 (Wizard, White Wizard, Beast, and Mage). Technically there were 3 in OOO, but I'll be nice and not count Proto-Birth separately.

And I don't think the number of Riders really makes much impact outside of Ryuki.

I honestly think their should only be 3 at most*hero,rival/friend/partner and villain* for a given series.

The Showa era says hi.

I'd actually love to see a show with only one Rider again.

Same here. Of course that would mean he'd have to have a shit ton of forms to make up for the lack of extra riders.

I'd honestly be happy if we got shows with only 1 Rider again.

So RX and Kuuga again?:lol

Kuuga, but with a bit more then OOO :lol

So wizard minus everyone else.

I'll take many riders over 1 or 2 most any day for a couple of reasons.

In terms of story, it helps to break the formula I'm freaking sick of. Figuring out what to do with the extra super powered characters gives more variety to the story and the writers have more freedom to do something different. It's not impossible to do that with only 1 or 2 riders, it's just makes things easier to do with a handful of rider.

In terms of marketing, the entire toy line isn't one guy in different outfits. This also helps limits the main characters from being to overpowered since they don't have to sell as many toys of that main character. It also allows for some antagonists and villains to get toys, something every good toy line needs.


PS And for the record, I love Kuuga, it's my second favorite series (pending Gaim's final placement). Of course I'd be lying if I said I didn't wish Ichijo became a rider at some point, so even then I want more Riders.

I love Multiple Riders, some of my favorites are the extra riders from series. I think Gaim is fantastic right now with how many there are. The only way I'd want a series with less than 2 Riders would be something like Faiz and have a ton of awesome support characters who also fight. However Gaim still has a ton of riders and a ton of support characters so we just need more shows like Gaim.

Or you'll end up with a lot of one dimensional,one note,pointless or flat characters because the writer can't handle that many characters granted this can and does happen to shows with only one character and there are exceptions of course but across the board from what I've seen less characters=stronger characterization

No it's usually the 2-3 most popular ones that get the most toys,tell that to Sentai and their love of reds and sixths and actually the more heroes the less likely villains will get made because you have more heroes you can make toys of and heroes outsell villains.

What was great with Kuuga, is that his partner was the whole police. He was the sole rider with a badass-normal sidekick, and an army of red shirts. I think the formula deserve another try.

When you think about it, the local forces are almost inexistant in toku shows, they usually come in the firsts episodes to demonstrate how strong is the monster of the week and go missing after that. But in Kuuga they were doing their job, assisting the hero with what they could and sacrificing their lives to protect the population.

There's equal chances of that happening with few riders. Exhibit A: Wizard. I'll take a lot of one note characters to fill the time with some variety instead one or two painfully boring characters any day.

It does deserve another try, but that will never happen as long as toys is where this franchise makes its money. That set up is just not toyetic enough for today's Bandai.

There should never be any sort of hard rule about this, but at least giving the writers an option to introduce more Riders would be a good idea. With Wizard I got the feeling that the production crew was really fighting Bandai on being able to introduce a third Rider into the series itself. Had they been allowed to introduce a third Rider earlier on, Mayuu definitely could have added a much needed leg for that series to stand on.

Minus Wizard and to an extent Fourze - out of every Rider show I've seen, that has multiple Riders, and I actually liked, two is the magic number for me.

In Wizard, unpopular opinion, but I found Haruto charismatic enough to carry the show alone. I liked the Mages a lot, but if you cut them out of the series you would never have noticed and I personally found Beast a complete waste of air until like the last ten episodes, and getting good that late into a show...still makes you pointless.

OOO on the other hand was really the beginning for me for realising how much I appreciated the magic two. This was a show I felt severely flagged until Date came into the series and there having a secondary Rider not only saved the show for me, but dragged up to levels of greatness.

W could have done without Accel, I LOVE Accel, but he was always awkwardly shoehorned into the series in a way that made me assume the show didn't want him there. As much as I would have missed him, W may very well have been better off focusing more solely on the adventures of Skull and Pre-Gaia Memories and then W fighting the ones in the present day. A sorta of two timeline Kiva thing, but not shit. Two is the magic number.

And so on, and forever.

I wouldn't really call Decade a two Rider show. Two Original to the show main character Riders, perhaps. If there was one thing Decade did not suffer from, it was a lack of Riders.

Honestly, I don't care how many riders a show has, as long as they are well-written and fit in the story, I can cope with tons of riders, but I generally seem to prefer a smaller group of riders or even just one rider. Wizard would have worked better without Beast or with Beast being a better character from the start, because near the end of the series, he turned into an awesome character. But when he was first introduced, you did get the feeling that the writers didn't even want him there. Most of his appearances were just plain stupid and all they did is make Wizard look even cooler. That's not the point of a Secondary rider.

I also could've lived without DiEnd. He was pretty boring and I feel he made Decade even more confusing than it already was at that point. Of course, we did have Kuuga and Kivara as other recurring riders, but Kuuga usually forgot he was a Rider and didn't help at all while Kivara only appeared in a movie, so basically, Decade would've worked with just Decade himself.

My favorite seasons were all those with just a few Riders, such as OOO, W and Fourze, but the multirider concept of Gaim is really good, so I don't complain about it.

Agree one thousand percent.

Yeah, Beast has the stench of "this is the guy Bandai forced into the show" all over him. It's such a shame to waste a talented actor in a role so disconnected from the story at large. Though in the long run he turns out to be a much more meaningful character than Wizard due to what he does in the final few episodes, utilizing his strengths earlier on would have made him a much better character. Instead we end up with this guy whose main story has absolutely no impact on the main story at large.

Wizard is one of those shows where the head writer just never seemed to care. The guy always complained that he wasn't a fan of TV production due to the fast paced nature and yet thought coming back for Wizard would be a good idea. There were some really cool concepts in there but they lackluster way he presents them made it impossible for me to care about anything because I didn't care about the characters beyond Mayuu and Nito one bit.

I really did find it bizarre and amusing that Haruto was almost dropped entirely out of his own show in the wrap up minus that one cool fight Infinity, which up to that point was an entirely wasted final form (add that one to my list of wasted designs).

Nitoh completely steals the spotlight at the end, after doing jack shit after his introduction (so nothing for about thirty episodes). I have no clue why he was added so early if the writers had no plans for him at all, it's especially frustrating because his backstory suggests an interesting character the show never attempts to capitalise on, so I have no idea why they brought that up either.

Honestly for the last ten or fifteen episodes it really does feel like an entirely new head writer was brought on board that totally confused Haruto and Nitoh.

I think if those last ten to fifteen episodes were the focus for the WHOLE show, it could have been great but it was rushed to the point of meaninglessness and felt so disconnected from the rest of the season it was hard to really care.

But then, not Beast was the major problem of the show, but rather Koyomi. Seriously, how stubborn can a headwriter be to keep a character as the lead if her actress doesn't have time for the role???

I guess this is going a bit to far off topic here though...

You could have made the final arc about Haruto's favourite pair of skinnies in place of Koyomi and had more emotional investment.

On 555/Faiz, instead of every character wielding the same belt, why not some of the main orphenochs become a rider.

Takumi - Faiz/Wolf Orphenoch

Kaido on the other hand, he should've become Kaixa after Kusaka's death. Keitaro would've been Delta instead of Mihara.

Though instead of Kiba being Orga, how about the Orphenoch King if they rewritten his existence. Kiba would've been Faiz's dark side like say... Sigma.

There would've been more greek alphabet riders. There is...
Phi - Faiz
Chi - Kaixa
Delta - Delta
Psi - Psyga
Omega - Orga

If some of the good & evil orphenochs became riders than just using their orphenoch forms, they would've been...
Yuka/Crane Orphenoch - Theta

Dragon Orphenoch - Mu
Centipede Orphenoch - Zeta
Lobster Orphenoch - Epsilon

I don't think there should always be a set number of Riders per show. What works for one will not work for others, and its good to break up the formula now and then.

I feel it makes impact in Gaim.

Oh thank you SO MUCH for that spoiler, ass.

Okay, can people have some courtesy when dropping huge plot points about shows in these threads please? They may be older shows but there are still A LOT of people discovering them only now and its unfair to have them completely spoiled for them without warning.

What of more female riders?

I mean Femme, Larc, Kiva-La, Nadeshiko, Mayu & Marika. I mean C'MON!

Why not add more!? From...
- 555
- Kabuto
- Den-O
- Double
&
- OOO

Um... because those shows are over?

I'm personally a fan of more Riders, but I do agree with the sentiment that more Riders =/= better. But yes, if you're going to go the 1/2 Rider route, those two better have a shit ton of forms to make up for a lack of new toys.

But again, if you can make more Riders work then I'm all for it. My favorite series are Ryuki and Gaim and those shows both rely on the idea of multiple Riders running around. As long as it's not treated like Kabuto where Riders drop off of the face of the planet and/or into the realm of irrelevancy for no reason (*coughcough* anybody not named Kabuto or Gatack *coughcough*) then I say it's good. But that's just preference for me because I think if you have a motif that lends itself to multiple different designs, one or two Riders won't be enough to get the most of that motif.