Kamen Rider Gaim Episode 33 "Beat Riders Unite!" Discussion
 

Will Nobunaga finally unite Japan and defeat the treacherous Akechi before the Westerners invade Japan? :lol

Please please let some random western actors show up with knock off drivers and get all kinds of Zectrooper levels of killed :lol

I didn't know how much I needed this.

I want Sour Grapes to be revealed just to see Kouta's reaction.

Also - ladies, Mitcchy is the way he is because Mai friend-zoned him. Do not friend-zone boys.

My response to someone's pic on tumblr that showed evil Micchy as a reaction pic to Kouta and Mai's hug back in 26-

Just caught the stream. Was that a certain fresh Arms I noticed in the preview for 34? Also, is zooming in on the Kiwami Lockseed going to be the new "Zooming in on the DJ Gun's Turntable" or something?

Nope, normal Orange Arms. Reviewed the preview on the official website and it's just normal Orange Arms.

Like to note that he did use Kurokage Shin's Kagematsu along with a normal Kagematsu in today's fight. Thought that was awesome to see :D

Keep in mind we now have to wait TWO WEEKS for more Gaim. The programming block is not airing next week due to sporting events.

The question of whether or not he can access Mango Arms is now answered - while the fruit isn't seen as one of the fruits from the sky, he is able to summon the weapon. Ichigo as well. One would imagine that the rest are free-game.

In all of the Kiwami Lock Seed toy reviews so far and some magazine scans, it's been shown that he has access to the following weapons:

Daidaimaru
Banaspear
Budou Ryuhou
Melon Defender
Pine Iron
Ichigo Kunai
Suika Sojinto
Donkachi (seen in this episode)
Kagematsu (Seen in this episode, both Kurokage and Kurokage Shin variants)
Duri Noko
Kurumi Bomber
Mango Punisher
Kiwi Gekirin
Sonic Arrow
Musou Saber
DJ Gun

So it's safe to say he will use each of these at least once.

While their actual Fruit doesn't fall from the sky with the others, I guess the ones that fall from the sky are just the ones that fit with their own individual rider, hence why Pine, Ichigo and Suika don't fall as they are usually associated with Gaim, Mango with Baron and Kiwi with Ryugen. That or it could be they didn't know how to fit all those CGI fruits on screen :lol

I absolutely LOVED his bow dual wielding.

That was cool. Would've loved to see him fire them one at a time. But dang, this fight really showed Micchy is devolving into Uva from OOO- both were green and no matter what, they kept surviving -___-

Maybe you shouldn't use Uva as an example. He survived the end of OOO after all; his Core Medals were never broken. All nine of them still exist. I think he's unconscious though.

Regardless, I doubt Micchy is going to survive the series. Kusaka didn't after all.

Didnt catch all the live stream, but what I did- Damn. :lol

I just mean in fights, cause when it gets so close to it, both still leave with minimal injuries/manage to survive due to a cop-out (the move Micchy pulled this episode, Dr. Maki throwing Core Medals into Uva)

So I freaking loved that he used Shin Kurokage's spear form the summer film. I'm telling you, it's gonna turn out that that movie is only temporary AU. They'll fix everything in the end :D

This was a great episode. Kiwami proves it's extremely OP and fun as hell to watch lay the beat down.

Really want to know what Mai and Kaito were saying to each other, as well as Minato's little discussion on power with Kouta was about.

Hi guys, I'm new to this forum. Nice to meet you all! :)

I like that Kiwami arms isn't the typical OP form that just blasts everyone away with maximum strength, but is instead an ultimate weapons user: a master of every weapon in his army. He overpowers with technique. But of course, his finishers are upgraded versions of each arms weapon, which I totally don't mind :P

I knew it! Mitsuzane Kureshima is official Loki of Kamen Rider
 

When Gen Urobuchi says that Takatora Kureshima is "Ouja" of Gaim but

Takatora Kureshima is NOT "Ouja" He was use by Urobucher as a decoy for the REAL "Ouja"

Mitsuzane Kureshima is the REAL "Ouja" of Gaim which Gen Urobcuhi actually talking about

Mitsuzane is very similar to Ouja as both of them are very evil character

Despite not being a good fighter, Mitsuzane is very smart and cunning.

I considered Mitsuzane Kureshima as Loki of Kamen Rider.

Mitsuzane Kureshima is similar to Loki from Marvel as both of them are very jealous at main hero (Loki is jealous at Thor from being the favorite of the family and Mitsuzane is jealous at Kouta Kazuraba due for his love for Mai) and is very good at trick.

Never thought that ichigo lock seed can be used in DJ gun :o , but that's really nice and the dual sonic arrow is just awesome :)

I guess VIn13ish is right about michy as ouja, it is pretty obvious that he would be one of the very main villians, at least for the time being. But for takatora, it is not clear at all. I personally think that he may still have a possibility to become a bad guy, maybe unconsciously, since he may be manipulated by his brother later on.

As for the conversation between kouta and minato, I guess she is questioning his resolution. I think she is asking what will he do with his power after he protected everyone.

The thing is that Urobuchi never said Takatora was the Ouja of Gaim, but Zangetsu is. As soon as Micchy took his Genesis Driver it was pretty obvious who Urobuchi actually meant.

Excellent episode. Kaito x Mai progresses, we find out that Minato loves strong men and Kouta loses his sense of taste. A subtle little hint that the power of Kiwami might have a downside.

But man that fight scene was awesome. Dual-wielding Kagematsu (plus Kurokage Shin's!) and Sonic Arrow, and then doing the soccer kick on the Donkachi was fantastic.

Overall, this episode was extremely intense and well-written, though I have to admit that I am bummed out that Dyudyunshu died so fast.

Hey, newbie here! *bows*

Kouta having problems with his sense of taste might be foreshadowing that he'll become an overlord, as DJ Sagara mentioned previously. And oh, I absolutely loved how Gaim in Kiwami Arms made short work of Dyudyuonshu (albeit with "help" from Micchy).

I just wonder why Micchy didn't de-henshin, as I think those hits from Kouta could've done it. And where's Ryoma hiding? Will he come back soon? I really wanna know.

Zangetsu as the Ouja of the series? Yeah. From the moment Mitsuzane got a hold of the Genesis Driver, it's pretty much clear.

Kaito x Mai tho. That was something. <3

Kouta had Micchy taste the rainbow.

Hi fellow newbie here! *bows*

I didn't think that having an Ouja in the series meant that Micchy would do an actual Ouja...

Oh, hi there!

And yeah, about Micchy doing Ouja-levels of villainy, I still doubt that he would. But then it's Gen Urobuchi, we might just get something like Asakura. (considering Micchy's already flipped his bad guy switch, and that laugh he's doing)

Anyone else notice that Kiwami used Energy Kurokage's weapons?

I wonder what Micchi is going to use to power up? Maybe become and Inves Ryugen himself?

Two at that! :)
As for Micchy he will have the sour grape arms. It is basically the same grape lockseed but colored in a two-tone of desert yellow and bile purple.

I did. And that makes me think that the Summer movie would just be part-AU, as Kagematsu (Kurokage Shin's version) appeared in this episode.

Or could it just be that Kagematsu always came in two forms? Or do we actually have a Matsubokkuri Energy Lockseed that hasn't been used in the show, bar the summer movie?

Side thought: If Kouta gets a hold of Matsubokkuri Energy... What powers would it give to let's say... Jimba Matsubokkuri Arms?

Haha nope, not the exact same villainy Ouja did, but in how Micchy used the overlord to shield himself from the finisher, much like Ouja used Gai to block Zolda's final vent in Ryuki.

Micchy's gone so far down that I wonder how his bit of the story is gonna end!

Also, WHEN IS TAKATORA COMING BACK TO KICK ASS??

My money is said raisin in the sun exploding.

Thus answering Hughes' question once and for all.

My money is either on levitation, or the power to kill an Inves from 200 yards away... WITH MIND-BULLETS!

idk if that's trolling, but wouldn't that be too overpowered?

That's what I was looking for for the past few hours. Which episode was that?
And Micchy...idk...he's just more and more turning into a sourgrape.

Subs are up! Aesir are some kinda magic!
http://aesirsubs.wordpress.com/2014/...rider-gaim-33/

Yup it's official…Miichi has turned sour!

I'm glad that Kouta finally knows that it's not Takatora, but I really wish Micchy had been exposed. Also Bravo came out of nowhere, I think it would have been better if he was with Kouta or at least stated to be in the area/called for backup.

THAT'S TELEKINESIS KYLE!

But what if he had the power...to move you?

As much as I hate this never ending build up to Micchy getting outed, its going to make that moment all the more satisfying when it does come.

I really liked that bit with Ryouma at the beginning. Its always nice to see different nationalities in these shows, even if the English speaker was incredibly over the top :lol

The use of Kurokage-shin's weapon just screams movie promotion. :lol

Gen is one hell of a writer. Think about some of the things we've had building up now.

- When Kouta is in Helheim looking for the Overlords and runs in to Oren, he explains to him that he's not hungry because he's been activating certain Lockseeds to keep him from feeling it. We also see Takatora do the same thing when he's given a mass-produced Sengoku driver while in captivity. And now we have Kouta losing his sense of taste and he states he's still wearing the driver.

Could this be, as many of you are speculating, that Kouta will begin to lose his humanity the longer and stronger he becomes, transforming more in to an Overlord (as DJ Sagara hinted at) than human?

- Mitcchy's entire build up of hatred against Kouta and his turn to evil. It will require you to go WAY back to like episode 3, but you can see the resentment that Mitcchy has for his brother back in that episode, and how Mitcchy slowly begins to undermine his brother (from stealing Lockseeds to sneaking in to Yggdrasill to eventually allowing his brother to "die"). And now he's stolen his brother's persona to attack Kouta's mind to weaken his body, but now that the gig is up thanks to Oren, Mitcchy will probably do what I hope he does - use himself to lure Kouta in to a trap and reveal himself as Zangetsu Shin, and strike with the Overlord in an attempt to kill Kouta. If that happens, though, we need a Takatora as regular Zangetsu to save the day moment.

Kaito and Mai ... that is one of those stories that has only had 2 total episodes dedicated to it until this one. Obviously Mai is going to be what finally breaks Kaito from his "THE POWERFUL MUST LIVE AND THE WEAK MUST DIE" mindset. He even acknowledges in this episode that her love for dancing is what makes her strong, even though she's an incredibly weak character (in terms of fighting, etc.). Interesting to see how that plays out, and exactly what Alter-Mai has to do with it.

Again, the intro credits reveal so much to this show. It's fun to keep watching the beginning scenes and how they play out.

(Gaim vs Baron, Kouta running towards Mai but the reflection has Kaito with Alter-Mai, Mitcchy rushing forward only to be blocked by his brother), and the fact that they CONTINUE to use regular Zangetsu in the intro makes me feel that they WILL bring him back.

THEY BETTER BRING HIM BACK. ARGH.

Bravo outing Shin-Mitchgetzu as a fake is a very good turn.

But right now I wonder; what's stopping Minato from outing Micchy at the moment? She worked with him at Yggdrasil & she knows Takatora's full story (and their family connection). Couldn't she turn everyone against Micchy with a sentence?