Fourze Episode 40- "Of Values and Passion" Discussion
 

After a 2 week wait we finally get to see the epic(?) golf match of Meteor vs. Taurus! How will Ryusei win? When will we find out Virgo's identity and motives?

Discuss!

Ha, I was right about Virgo! XD

This weeks episode is only gonna be significant if it reveals Virgo. I'm more interested in the preview for next weeks episode because of this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-zqvPlhAP6U.../fourze-41.jpg

That's interesting. I always love it when movie-exclusive things turn up the tail end of series'. Same happened in Go-Onger.

Wow. WOW!!!

I can't believe what they revealed in today's episode!

Emoto is Virgo. Emoto is the one who "killed" Kengo's father, not Gamou.

And that epic battle (although brief) between Fourze, Meteor, and Virgo? Mini-epic!

And Tomoko! Banished to the dark nebula! WTF! Emoto is a dick!

Shit just got serious.

Yessssssssssssssssss, I was hoping Virgo would turn out to be epic and not just another throw-away >D

Overtime's page is down, but the sub is out!

Fourze 40

Is Emoto brainwashed by Gamou ?

Will be watching this episode tonight. Watched 39 yesterday in preparation. Can't wait!

That's impression I got from it, but who knows?

I got the impression that they'd been working together from Day 1, myself.

After all, looking at Emoto's past dialogue, he made the allusion of Gamou as the sun, Kengo's dad as Earth, and himself as the moon. Strikes me that it's more of a matter of him secretly resenting being in the shadow of Kengo's father.

Still, those revelations were pretty big twists. And MORE interesting, I think, is the fact that the Apostles themselves are irrelevant - all Gamou wants is the Apostles to mature the switches for him.

My mind is everywhere but it's not in my head right now.
That was crazy.

Also, I think Tomoko's banishing to the Dark Nebula pretty much locks in that the characters banished there will be rescued. I know Kamen Rider isn't afraid to kill off characters, but for a series like Fourze, I don't see them just letting Tomoko go like that.

Unfortunately I was semi-spoiled on Virgo's identity (was told it was a male) by the KR Foruze facebook page and pretty much figured out who it was :( Still, interesting twist at the end with I being him who killed Kengo's dad and that he also has the glowy eyes of death. Also surprised both Tomoko and Taurus got sent to the Dark Nebula. Despite being spoiled I did really enjoy this episode, and next week's looks to be good going by the preview.

So much for the Theory that Tomoko is one of the enforcers...

Leave it to Fourze to make even Golf look epic!

Wow.

Okay so Emoto is virgo, whilst i was fine with scorpio being Miss Sonoda, Im not sure how I feel about that seeing how feminine Virgo's design is. Although i guess it's not really Emoto cross dressing but more Virgo using his mind to function... maybe =p Still a nice twist that it was him that killed Kengo's dad and not Gamou, and i like that he's a bit mental and relentless in achieving his/Gamou's goal.

Definitely didn't expect Tomoko to be banished either, or for Taurus to turn. I have to admit, the Horoscopes becoming monsters of the week has been a little bit disapointing, but the past two have handle the defeat of them really well i think. What with Elleen's almost self sacrificing fight and Taurus' betrayal and banishment. I think it helps to show how little prep they've had and how desperate Gamou is for his switches now.

Eh tl;dr.. I really liked this episode and i hope the show can keep this momentum till the end now =)

I was actually kinda hoping for Taurus to kinda side with Gen briefly before losing the switch. It'd be neat to have a benevolent Zodiart on the team for an episode lol.

As for Emoto being Virgo, I think the only problem is that he's gone from an actual character to a drone.
Also, Tachibana. Can't wait for next week's episode.

It wasn't until this episode that I realized in less than 3 months we will be on to Kamen Rider Wizard.

I wonder when we'll start getting the mini adverts and the "Coming soon!" for him.

Not really seeing as "Gamou is getting desperate for Switches", myself.

It's more that since Horoscopes can now mature just like that, thanks to Libra being able to find potentials and the ultrahigh cosmic energy above the school, he can get the switches to mature more easily. Which surprised me, I'll admit - up until now I thought his ultimate agenda was to assemble FOLLOWERS using the switches, not the switches themselves.

Isn't he just trying to get the Core Switch now?

While his original plan may have been to assemble the 12 Horoscopes, I think once the Core Switch was revealed he stopped caring :lol

Fair enough =]

It just seems to me that they've realised that they probably can't beat Fourze as they are and need the core switch as quickly as possible to remove him and meteor, hence the lack of training from zodiart to horoscope to supernova.

Before it seemed like they were trying to build an army of supernova capable warriors but once they started to fall and Leo felt the core switch they seem to have drifted away from that.

Can't beat Fourze?

Virgo man-handled Fourze and Meteor.

Aside from Virgo and Leo to an extent, everyone has had their ass handed to them since the debut of Cosmic and Meteor storm. Virgo and Gamou are presumably the first two and have studied the switches so it would make sense that they're the strongest and capable of holding their own. Sure Virgo kicked their ass a bit but he/she didn't stick around to finish them off or damage them too badly.

I don't know I'm just speculating =p The core switch obviously has a vital role and for me all the evidence so for, again to me, seems to indicate that it'll be important in changing the tide in battle. =]

I think from Gamou's reaction upon hearing the words "core switch", it can be assumed that this switch may be even more powerful than all the other astro switches he has so collected so far. So if he ever gets his hands on the core switch, who knows what might happen? However, I think Fourze might ended up getting that switch instead of Gamou, and uses it to finally defeat all 12 switches.

I didn't expect Tomoko to be banished to Dark Nebula, but I think this means KRC will probably rescue her, and that it isn't a place where you're gone forever. I wonder if it means Sonada, Kijima, etc. will return.

Wow. That was a twist I did not expect. I had always assumed the Gamou killed Utahosi but to find out that Emoto did is a fantastic turn of events. I agree with others though that since Tomoko was banished that it's inevitable that everyone in the Nebula will be freed. They wouldn't send a major supporting character like her there if she coudln't be brought back.

Ryuki would. :P

I just wonder if everyone will come back. After all, Kijima was pretty much psycho :lol

A team of Fourze, Meteor, Scorpio, Cancer, Taurus vs Sagittarius, Virgo, Leo, Libra would be epic. Don't know if Gemini and Pisces are gonna be 2 ep's or not

Ryuki would and has, to a shitload of characters :lol

Unfortunately Fourze isn't quite as dark.

True and true lol.

I just wonder what will become of Sonada and Kijima. Unlike Taurus, neither of them showed any remorse for their actions as Zodiarts before getting sent to the Dark Nebula, so I wonder if Gentarou will still be willing to re-friend them...

I'm assuming that when Virgo is beaten that the connection he has to the Dark Nebula will allow the escape of his captives. I'd say he'll get defeated within the final 3 episodes and hopefully the other horoscopes will return. If nothing else I just need more Kijima in my life.

We all do. He was awesome :lol
I'm hoping they recover the switches and Leo doesn't get to keep them all...

Here's my prediction. The "Cosmic Switch" will be the final switch that allows complete and total mastery of all the "Astro Switches" in one's possession. IE if Gamaou gets it, he can control all the Astro Switches at once without the need of an avatar so to speak.

But instead, Fourze will get it and we'll get...

- Fourze base states
- Fourze Fire State
- Fourze Electric State
- Fourze Magnet State
- Fourze Double Rocket State
- Fourze Cosmic State
- Kamen Rider Meteor
- Kamen Rider Meteor Storm

.... against Leo, Virgo, Saggitatsefadfoius, Libra, and Capricorn or whatever. EPIC BATTLE OF EPIC BATTLE!

People called out Virgo's identity for a while now, but doesn't make it any less awesome! Really tight episode, Fourze is moving into its final act and it's looking to be a blast.

It wasn't Virgo's identity that was the surprise, rather it was how they handled the events following that knocked it out of the park!

I agree, Tomoko banished to the dark nebula? Found out who really killed Kengo's father? Daaaaaammmmmnnnnnn

WOW, I honestly did not see that coming. I suspected he was a bad guy, but I didn't guess the connection.

Looks like Gamou's plan is to just COLLECT all the 12 Horoscope switches, not necessarily have them all be active. Makes me wonder if Leo, Virgo, and Libra will have to give up their switches to Gamou for his master plan, or if they're actually a part of it, hence why they're still around.

So wait, why do Gamou need to collect horoscope switches? I thought he was the one handing them out? If not, where did the switches come from?

From what I can gather from the subs...

- They were handing out Zodiart switches in hopes that whomever held them would evolve in to Horoscopes
- Gamou then only cares that he gets the switch in the end, even if the Horoscope is destroyed/killed/banished

Just at the end of 40 they mention something like "Only two more switches to gather" ... which I guess means they're just gathering the switches?

He's only handing out the Zodiart switches. Libra has to find the people who have the aptitude to allow the switch to evolve into a Horoscope switch.