What would you like to see in a KR series?
 

This kind of topic is popular in the Pretty Cure fandom, so I thought I'd try one here. I know I'm new to Kamen Rider, but now that I've done a decent amount of research, I think I'm aware of the tropes and cliches associated with it. So let me ask: what would you like to see in a Kamen Rider series?

For me, I'd like to see...

1. Prominent female riders (and with actual character, not just there for the Smurfette principle or for fan service either)
2. Less complicated plotlines
3. Disabled characters
4. Main characters with families (is it just me or do the main characters of KR not have families? Parents? Siblings? Huuuuuh?)
5. Flower motifs.
6. No Rider wars.

This is just a start. I'll have to see more series before I can decide what I really want out of KR. But feel free to discuss what you'd like to see in KR here!

Female characters. Central to the plot. That don't die. (C'mon, think about it. Kamen Rider may be fun and games, but it ain't exactly socially advancing television)

Dinosaur Riders(?)

Ooo, a plot with a central Rider, and varying 'bad guy' factions who try to manipulate and control to get the rider to kill the other factions.

What was Riderman's disability?

There are some cool ones. But there's so many cool female characters in KR that don't even need to be riders because they're awesome already.
Ehhh depends on the series. Some are simpler, some are more complex.
Well, most of them have lost most of their family under tragic circumstances, but, to name some examples, Eiji (OOO) still has parents, Gentarou (Fourze) lives with his grandpa and Gou (Mach) works together with his sister. Well he used to x,D
Seasons without rider wars as their main theme and mostly just occasional fighting: Kuuga (because there's only one of them), Agito, Blade (they do fight a lot, but overall, they're allies), Hibiki, Kabuto, Den-O, Kiva, W, OOO, Fourze, Wizard, Drive- so the ones that rely rely on the riders fighting all the time are Ryuki, Gaim and Faiz.

So that's why he has the hook thing?

I want to see more interesting main riders.

Eeyup

he'll swap out the arm for other attachments to help him in certain situations.

one of them being a machine gun.
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OP pretty much said it all. Heroes of different ethnicities would be nice too. Okinawan Rider anyone?
It would definitely help push the whole idea of rebels fighting against greater odds of the original Rider.

I would also go back to the idea of Kamen Rider being a monster. Not like the incidental lip service of Drive or Gaim either, I mean like realass growling monsters. If not Shin then something along the lines of Gills. A monster who fights other, horrible monsters.

there are riders that do have varying origins. they probably just don't have that many okinawans because they mainly do their filming in (what I assume) is Tokyo.

and the human forcefully turned into a monster thing kinda might not be done again, considering there's a lot of children fans, many of them wanting to be able to emulate their favorite hero, or put themselves in their shoes.

and technically, Gackt (who is the Decade world Riderman) is an Okinawan.

Fun

I wanna see some foreign riders. I mean the only foreign one I can remember is psyga and I wanna see some more riders that are from different countries like let's say a Singaporean rider. Wait in Singapore one of the main languages is English so it'd be psyga all over again.

Well, Psyga is the only current foreign rider.
However, Eternal's actor was South Korean (I don't know if that counts, though).

No, Eternal's actor is Japanese. It's Mitsuru Matsuoka, who also voices Kamen Rider #4 and who sings the Opening for Drive.
The Korean actor in W was Gong Teyu who played Utopia Dopant/Jun Kazu.

The actor who played Kamen Rider Verde was half-American, btw.

tbh, they probably can't focus too much time on diversity considering they have a weekly show to make and keep up with for an entire year.
including movies,
live shows,
and other such happenings

I don't really mind the lack of racial diversity, since Japan is a very homogenous society anyways, so trying to force in more foreigners in a very Japan centric show, wouldn't be the best idea.

I do agree on having more relevant female characters. Not just pretty girls that stand around, but are involved with the plot constantly. Maybe even a Female Rider suit that isn't colored pink and/or white?

And for the less complicated remark, do you mean needlessly complicated, or overall complicated? Because those are two different things. I think the only Rider show I've watched where it needlessly complicated things was Faiz. But stuff like Gaim and Blade are a good kind of complicated.

there are rider girls that aren't pink or white.
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(technically, most of Nadeshiko's suit is silver)

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Eternal is Eternal, regardless of whether or not he's wearing a trashbag as a cape.

There's also Idun. From Gaim Gaiden, who's red.

hey, hey, do not insult the Hefty flexbag cape.

Why does his arms change from red to blue when e wears the cape? What makes the difference?

Red flare was an incomplete form so to say while the blue form represents that the eternal memory was with the compatible person.

Oh. Ok.

As SanoBaron demonstrated, the only pink and white rider suits for females are Marika and Femme. And it makes sense, because their motifs are a peach (pink) and a swan (white).
What's wrong with pink and white anyway? I like pink.

You forgotten kivala from decade

Nothing is wrong with white, but pink is stereotyping the female character into what is perceived as a "Feminine" color.

Kivala is white and purple, which would be going against what Sano was trying to disprove.

I think white would be fine for a female Kamen Rider considering there's plenty of male riders who are mostly white, meaning it can be considered a gender neutral color for that series.

Fourze, Mach, and Ixa for example.

even Den-O is mostly white in almost all of his forms.

Would it really be stereotypically feminine in a franchise where we already had a male character with pink/magenta-colored armor?

Pretty much.

*Ventures out into the real world*
*Sees pink is still seen as a primarily feminine color*
Yes.

And considering we live in a time when people constantly want stereotypes to be broken...

in places that aren't Japan.

So, it's offensive now for female characters to have a pink color scheme just because it's considered a stereotype? My god, I'm an insult for my own gender. :rolleyes

Aside from that: In a franchise that broke the stereotype already, it isn't an argument anymore to say "Erhmahgerd, female characters are always pink".

And on a side note, in the "real world", I know plenty of males who do wear pink and look fabulous in it. It's a problem that too many women wear pink, the problem is that not enough men wear pink. And Kamen Rider already made a step in the right direction with Decade.

First of all, Decade is magenta, not pink.
Next, Decade is a man? Since when?

(Aside: The point is that to feature a female rider (Something already rare for the franchise) to be pink is the point. It's not doing any favors)

Magenta and pink are nonetheless in the same range of colors (technically, Marika is also more magenta-ish than pink). They are confused for each other for a reason.

And also: people complained that female riders would always wear pink or white. First of all: They don't, as seen in SanoBaron's post. And second: Even if they're pink, what's the problem? Just because the connotation of the color is feminine, making a female character wear a pink costume doesn't do any harm. What's important is how the character is written and portrayed. So I don't understand why people would be AGAINST a character wearing the color.

Magenta is often considered closer to pink than red.

also, Raia had magenta first, and Decade is clearly brighter than Raia, meaning Decade is not magenta in the first place :P
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Right, Raia! Tend to forget that poor guy- I kinda have Ryuki-amnesia, I forget tons of stuff from that show for whatever reason.