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In our culture, sometimes a hero needs a tragic backstory to help motivate them to try and find justice. These heroes come in all shapes and sizes…and these heroes happen to be shaped after vehicles. It’s motorcycles VS cars! Two police officers that look good in red, Ryu Terui, also known as Kamen Rider Accel and Shinnosuke Tomari the eponymous Kamen Rider Drive. This thread is to see which of the two can best the other with their most basic gear and their own strength in a Kamen Rider Brawl.

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-Ryu Terui was an ordinary investigator until he came home to find his family and home frozen in ice. Just before his body shattered into pieces, Ryu’s father warned about confronting “The Man With The W Memory.” Rather than take his father’s warning, Ryu swore revenge, eventually encountering the mysterious Shroud. She provided him with the means to try and hunt down that man in the form of the Accel Memory and AccelDriver, allowing him to transform into the red motorcycle themed Kamen Rider Accel. As Accel, he is well armored and a proficient fighter. Despite the bulky look of him, he is fairly maneuverable. His finishing move, AKA a Maximum Drive, in this form is the Accel Glanzer kick, engulfing him in flames as he hits his opponent with a jumping spinning heel kick.

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-His primary weapon of choice is the Engine Blade, a gunblade that is shown to be incredibly heavy when Ryu isn’t transformed. This is a testament to his added strength in rider form, as he is able lift and swing the blade with ease. The Engine Blade is further strengthened with the use of the Engine Memory, a pseudo-Gaia Memory that is linked to the Accel Memory. This Memory has various abilities imbued within it- Steam, which unleashes a wave or wall of hot steam, Jet, which allows him to release bursts of super heated slashes and Electric, allowing him to use electrical slashes to shock opponents or use like a defibrillator if used carefully enough. With these, he can also initiate two additional Maximum Drives- the A-Slasher, where energy is concentrated into the shape of an A and shot at the opponent, or the Dynamic Ace, where he slashes the air in front of him three times, forming an A that collides with the opponent.

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-Despite not having Half Changes like his fellow Rider Kamen Rider W, Ryu has his own unique form. By taking off the Accel Driver Buckle from his belt, Ryu is able to assume Bike Mode, where his body morphs, turning him into a living motorcycle. This gives Ryu a speed boost and another option in battle, increasing his maneuverability to the point that he was able to go over frozen roads and scale up the side of a building. He is also able to use the Engine Memory in his Accel Driver in this form to utilize a Maximum Drive known as the Bike Engine Dasher, increasing the power of the impact made by him ramming his opponent. People are able to ride Bike Mode and not have any problems with steering, as Ryu can control himself with ease.

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-Ryu is not alone in his fights, as he has a little buddy robot known as a Memory Gadget. The one he uses is his Beetle Phone, able to transform from Gadget Mode to Live Mode, their mode that resembles an animal. In this case, his Beetle Phone takes the form of small Rhinoceros Beetle. While it can attack for Ryu, he mainly uses it for surveillance, often using it to spy on others and learn things about them. While this may be his only Memory Gadget, it is not the only ally Ryu has in battle.

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-The Gunner A is tank-like support droid with its own AI, allowing it to help Ryu in battle. It is notably strong, able to knock a giant Dopant over. Its secondary function is to combine with Accel’s Bike Mode to turn him into the-
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-Accel Gunner. In this form, Ryu’s back wheel folds upward, turning it into a small machine gun, while the parts of the head of the Gunner A turn into a large rail-gun like cannon, known as the Gaia Cannon. The Gaia Cannon is perhaps Ryu’s best weapon in his basic arsenal, able to use the Gunner Full Break finisher, which unleashes a blast of energy similar to a Maximum Drive, capable of destroying/damaging giant Dopants. While Ryu started off having anger issues and a loner attitude, he eventually warmed up to his fellow Rider(s), defeated the man who killed his family and even got married to the very girl that annoyed him from when he first appeared. Even with this calmer demeanor, whose to say his rage will be unleashed against his opponent? Saa, furikiru ze!

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-When he was just 12 years old, tragedy had struck Shinnosuke Tomari- his father was killed in the line of duty. Following his father’s footsteps and becoming a police officer, at the age of 24, Shinnosuke was on active duty when the worldwide phenomenon known as the Global Freeze occurred. It was during this event that another life-changing event occurred- having shot at a criminal to protect his partner Hayase, the Global Freeze’s effects caused his bullet to slow down, instead hitting a flammable tank, causing an explosion that knocked Hayase down. Rushing to his injured partner, Shinnosuke felt the effects of the Global Freeze again, preventing him from saving Hayase from being crushed under several metal girders. Despite the fact that Hayase survived the ordeal, Shinnosuke was still riddled with guilt that he had a hand in causing those severe injuries and lost the drive to do anything. When asked to take part in the investigation of the “Heaviness,” Shinnosuke opted to go rest inside a car outside, where he encountered the very thing that changed his life: the Drive Driver. Attaching itself to Shinnosuke, the odd looking belt allowed him to move around when a Roidmude, a monster capable of causing the “Heaviness”. Shinnosuke regained his motivation and began to investigate before fighting the monster again to protect a civilian. Outnumbered when the Roidmude called for back up and fearing he would fail someone again, Shinnosuke was saved by Kiriko Shijima, who, along with “Belt-San” suggested that he should transform. And thus, Kamen Rider Drive was born! In his base Type Speed form accessed through the Shift Speed Shift Car, Shinnosuke is able to move quite nimbly despite the big tire on his body. When he uses the Shift Lever three times, he is able to increase his speed, allowing him to slide on the ground and punch faster than normal. This form’s finishing move is the SpeeDrop, a rider kick that starts with him increasing the power of his right leg as he kicks his opponent.

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-Drive’s standard side arms are the Handle Ken, a sword/steering wheel hybrid and the Door-Ju, a gun/door hybrid. Silly as they may be, these weapons are quite effective, with each having a way to increase its power. For the Handle-Ken, Shinnosuke can “turn” the wheel to increase the power of its slashes. When turning a third time, the Handle-Ken announces “U-Turn”, allowing Drive to drift around his surroundings before he attacks his opponent with a more powerful slash. The Door-Ju’s capable of firing multiple rounds before it needs to be reloaded using an easy method- by opening and closing its door. This is often a problem though, as if the door is left ajar, Shinnosuke cannot reload the shots, leaving the gun useless. Besides having those abilities, each can utilize a Shift Car for a Full Throttle. Speaking of Shift Cars-

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-Shinnosuke is able to utilize Tire Koukans, giving him a new Tire and powers that come along with them. For this battle, we’ll take a look at the first three he ever used: Funky Spike, Max Flare and Midnight Shadow. Funky Spike is a green tire covered in spikes, which it can shoot at opponents or, if they are within range, can impale them as the tire spins rapidly. Max Flare is his most commonly used Tire Koukan Shift Car, imbuing him with the orange Max Flare tire and the ability to engulf his fists or feet with fire to deliver fire-enhanced punches and kicks, as well as create a concentrated “fire tornado.” The purple Midnight Shadow allows him to duplicate himself and create energy shuriken that he throws at his opponents. Shinnosuke will have to think hard about which one he will use in this battle, as he can only use one at a time. Despite having this handicap, the Shift Cars themselves can attack for Shinnosuke if needed, able to utilize their powers. Though they have this limited AI, they are still pretty small and graspable, leaving them vulnerable to those who can grab hold of them.

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-Shinnosuke is one of the few riders to not have a motorcycle, but rather, a car. The Tridoron was built to be Drive’s ultimate support, being his transportation as well as the source of the Tire Koukans. Large and fast, it has three modes, but for the sake of this battle, we’ll stick to the one that Type Speed is affiliated with most- the Type Speed mode. Resembling a sports car, the Tridoron can be controlled by “Belt-San” remotely, calling it to aid Shinnosuke in battle, often driving into the area and hitting opponents/blocking attacks. The Tridoron also shoots lasers, and is capable of using a Tire Fueru, giving it the powers of whatever Shift Car is used inside it. While Shinnosuke has multiple powers, will he be able to have a nice drive with just this basic arsenal? Shinnosuke, START YOUR ENGINE!

Now that the facts are known, place your votes and discuss on which of these two true blue fighters will take victory for their own. Tune in two weeks from now to learn the results and see who is next up, for the Kamen Rider Brawl!

Originally Posted by Talisman (Post 548619) Unfortunately there's just no real way Accel can come out of this on top. Drive has him beat in almost every way. The Gunner A could be used to great effect peppering and distracting Drive with artillery fire from a distance and allowing Accel to close in and take him down, or even take Tridoron out of commission, but then the Shift Cars themselves could counter that, not to mention use of the Midnight Shadow tire. Further, Accel has no real ranged abilities whereas Drive has both the Midnight Shadow's shuriken and cloning abilites, and the Door Gun, which means that Accel would have no real chance to get in and get any hits. That's before getting into anything that would render Accel's advantage in close range useless, namely Funky Spike, Max Flare, and the Handle Sword.

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 549017) Seriously how do these votes work? Can anyone vote, even unregistered users? Because if I look up at the current status of the vote and look who actually votes it's pretty ridiculous how 51 people voted for Accel and only 3 of them are actually registered here. Okay, Drive also has unregistered votes, but they ratio of 20 to 38 is a lot more realistic. Can't we modify the votes so only registered users can vote? Because at this point I'm pretty certain some people mistake this for a popularity contest and just vote the shit out of Accel because they don't like Drive. Technically I could vote 4 times too if I wanted to, and that's bullshit. I don't care about who wins and I'm not butthurt, I just find it incredibly insulting to all the work OOO put in this contest just so people fangirl over this and vote for the character they like better, that's not the reason why OOO is doing this. If these unregistered people actually appeared here and told us their reasons on why they voted Accel (or Drive) it would be cool and we could have some great discussions (which I'm sure was what OOO had in mind when he came up with the contests in the first place) but at this point this is just a big farce. So either we work out a way how we can control who votes (like only count registered votes), or we accept that the voting itself is useless and we only refer to the people who actually told us their reasons to who should win.

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 549017) Seriously how do these votes work? Can anyone vote, even unregistered users? Because if I look up at the current status of the vote and look who actually votes it's pretty ridiculous how 51 people voted for Accel and only 3 of them are actually registered here. Okay, Drive also has unregistered votes, but they ratio of 20 to 38 is a lot more realistic. Can't we modify the votes so only registered users can vote? Because at this point I'm pretty certain some people mistake this for a popularity contest and just vote the shit out of Accel because they don't like Drive. Technically I could vote 4 times too if I wanted to, and that's bullshit. I don't care about who wins and I'm not butthurt, I just find it incredibly insulting to all the work OOO put in this contest just so people fangirl over this and vote for the character they like better, that's not the reason why OOO is doing this. If these unregistered people actually appeared here and told us their reasons on why they voted Accel (or Drive) it would be cool and we could have some great discussions (which I'm sure was what OOO had in mind when he came up with the contests in the first place) but at this point this is just a big farce. So either we work out a way how we can control who votes (like only count registered votes), or we accept that the voting itself is useless and we only refer to the people who actually told us their reasons to who should win.

Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface (Post 549021) I am a little curious as to how the parameters of these matchups are decided. Like, with Gaim the Pine and Ichigo Arms and even vehicles he got later on in his story like the Tulip Hopper were included, but Drive is being limited to his first three shift cars. Seems somewhat odd, since really Drive had access to the majority of the cars from the get go, even earlier than he had access to the sword and gun. I'm guessing it's a way of starting off Drive with a bit of a handicap? Since with the full range of tire koukans he simply has too much variety.

Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 549078) Considering concerns from others, I have edited the poll to reflect on the users that actually voted with their user names showing.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 549085) Then what's the point of a poll? You make it public for anyone to vote in, then change the rules after everyone's voted to skew the results? What does it matter if they're unregistered, they're still people voting. I mean, these threads are already kinda pointless, but now they're entirely pointless.

Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 549100) I was just trying to make things fair to those who voted and stated their reasons for voting.

someone refreshing and voting every single time.

The whole reason why it took so long for me to revive this thing was because I was trying to find a way to make it so it isn't just a popularity contest.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 549108) And those who voted but didn't?

Is that even possible? Because when I refresh/leave it tells me I've already voted. Unless there's one really sad Accel fan out there who went to all the trouble of using a proxy server to rack up votes.

There is literally no way to not do that, because I voted Accel and I still admitted he couldn't win. :lol These will always be popularity contests because it's not like Kamen Rider as stone-set rules and physics to it's universe. Nonsensical, illogical things happen constantly within there own shows.

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 549111) You can vote more than one time though, that's the point. I just logged out, voted for Accel, grabbed my Smartphone and voted Accel again. And I can guarantee you if I go to the two other Desktop's in this house and the laptop I can vote 3 more times. And I suspect anyone who can generate a fake IP can do this all day long.

That's the point which makes the end result laughable when we allow this to happen.

Just cut the votes down to registered users, no matter if they have wrote a comment on who should win or not. That's optional.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 549113) That's a lot of work for one guy to go through, though. Sad Accel fan must've spent hours. The end result will always be laughable because it's a "who would win" thread. I actually care more about how this whole voting thing can be cheated than I do the actual discussion. I can agree to this. Seems like the fairest option.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 549113) That's a lot of work for one guy to go through, though.

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 549113) The end result will always be laughable because it's a "who would win" thread.

Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 549114) Very well. That is how I shall count the votes from now on

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 549115) It really isn’t.

People do much more stupid and time consuming stuff everyday, this is really not surprising.

I'm just taking this so seriously because I hate it when a person (in this case, OOO) puts a lot of time into making this voting-contest and some idiots screws with it.

Originally Posted by Switchblade (Post 549071) I ultimately decided to go with Accel. Drive at full power would take this easily, but with just his weapons and three Shift Cars (and without the ability to create a Slow Down that some people are claiming he has) I just don't see him taking this. In my opinoin, Accel is the better fighter and he'd come out on top.

Originally Posted by IXRollOutIX (Post 549315) Ixa? Versus... Um. Knuckle? No idea. I'm lost. Lol. :o

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 548605) Accel vs Mach would've been more interesting fight IMO, since Mach isn’t as powerful as Drive and has less gear.

Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 549337) Whelp, unlike the hint for this current battle, that one only refers to one of the next combatants :).

Originally Posted by KamenRiderOOO (Post 549258) The first teaser for the next battle in two weeks https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CND7HhfUkAAby3B.jpg

Originally Posted by ElConvoy (Post 549370) I initially voted for Drive but after thinking more about it I actually think Accel is the one that would be the victor in this match. And the deciding factor in this is one simple detail about Drives powers. He needs Tridoron to use his Tires. And here is the clincher about all this cause the minute Terui will see Shinnosuke transform or change a Tire he will know that Tridoron is responsible for it and will not engage in a fight with Shinnosuke until he has destroyed the Tridoron first. And with his Bike mode he is faster than Drive is so he wouldnt be able to follow Accel easily. And with Tridoron taken out of the picture Shinnosuke is pretty much helpless. He has nothing to keep up with Terui. Especially since Terui is just extremely Driven and it takes a whole lot to get him to stop.

Originally Posted by EnerPrime (Post 549371) Honestly, I don't think Accel could actually manage to destroy the Tridoron. Tridoron can be fully operated by Krim remotly, and has some serious firepower and armour on it. Even with the AccelGunner form, Terui doesn't have the kinda firepower needed to take out Tridoron.