Go-Bust Issues
 

As promised here comes the ranting: The issue with the Go-Buster toys is that, for the most part, they all look better individually. Ace looks amazing by himself, Trucker-Kong and BunCopter is the same. They all look great uncombined. They you put them together and it looks like someone had fun with the superglue. Beet and Stag are the same way. great vehicles, great robots, even a good combined mode. Then you combine everything together and it makes G-12 Explosion look like the most beautiful thing in the world. To paraphrase Baltmatrix "It's a clusterfreak of plastic".

And that's the only issue I have with that whole line. Always has been.

True that, but they're actually handled pretty well in the series. I'll try not to spoil anything to much, and just say that they don't always go with the biggest combination when dealing with giants.

I'm totally with you on this one. Both in show and toy forms, the Go-Busters mechs are all so much better on their own. It's a good thing the show actually uses the uncombined forms a lot.

That's exactly how I feel about the minipla. Individually I'm completely in love with them, but the minute I put them together I realised just how much I hate the combination. I don't think GreatGo-buster is going to fare very well when I get Beet and Stag either.

Hmm. I like all the forms overall. I will gladly put them on display as individual forms as well as the combined forms (aside from the fact that Great Gobuster is a little TOO big to display properly). At least its better than Samurai Haoh.

I don't know about that. I really like the Go-Buster toys; the individual mechs look great, as you said. But I have to disagree about the combined forms. They all scream bulky and powerful, which is something that certain mechs and Megazords have trouble doing. Gokai Oh is a shining example of everything that GoBuster Oh fixes. The vehicles were so simple that they served no purpose other than combining into Gokai Oh (or being left off, for that matter). Here, they have individual weight and they make the combined mode have more value than just being the Sentai's only robot.

i dont see how clustery it is, if u take out rabbit there no kibble at all

Knowing the show doesn't combine them often makes me idiotically happy. It's just a case of Bandai not wanting extra peices, and sticking things together. Without stopping for a second and thinking "Does this make sense?"

Least Samurai Ha-Oh made sense.

That was my problem with Gokai-Oh. Sentai Tamashii or ZeorangerV said before that they wished they each had five mechs, that all came together to form both the Galleon and the Oh. Like five nautical ships or something that combine. And I feel the same way.

I'd preferred the galleon to form the mecha by itself ala the Astro Megazord/whatever it was called in Megaranger, but yeah I agree about the random pointless vehicles. They only seemed to be there to have a "TRADITIONAL FIVE COLOURS" robot.

Unfortunately I just feel the Gobuster mechs fall short in pretty much every way. I own all of them but I can't see myself keeping them indefinitely.

Let's look at Gobusterohs' flaws:
-The combined mode head is essentially a mask over a very tiny head
-The chest piece barely holds in with friction. And when I say barely I mean that if you nudge it with your hand it falls out.
-The shins on Ace stick waaaaay out to the sides from where they connect to Gorisaki.
-The tiny fists/flat arms are really unimpressive

Great Gobuster:
-Incredibly thick upper body
-By contrast it has LONG chicken legs
-Again, giant mask snapping onto the front of teeny tiny head
- Rabbit arms? Just shove them on the back plate
-Gorisaki? Just balance him on the back plate too
-GobusterOh Mask? Just shove it on that ridiculously long staff that can hardly balance while being held by a teeny tiny peg

Honestly each individual figure has it's shortcomings, each has positives. But the combined forms in any capacity are not well executed. Take the Hercules for example. The Stag arm weapon is so heavy that it weighs the figure forward severely throwing it's balance off. And there are so many tiny appendages that point all over the place (wings on the chestplate, legs on the stag weapon) that it makes the joints that do exist in the terrible arms completely pointless. Not to mention that the giant Stag jet gun is too long to pose at the same ratchet as the other arm. You have to lean it even further forward than the other arm, throwing the balance issues into further peril.

Look I hate to rant about these toys, I love love LOVE big clunky DX Robos. I really do, but ever Since Boukenger quality and design have been slipping hardcore. You want to do the big cluster machine of doom, then honestly the Ultimate Daibouken is the way to go. You want the big giant monster combiner that's absurd but awesome, then the G12 is the direction you go in. The GobusterOh and Great Gobuster lean further into the direction of absurd and ridiculous in a bad way. They lean towards using all the pieces, which I appreciate more than anything, but at the cost of the Robo looking anything like it does in show. It's pathetic and sad. I can only hope that the Tategami RaiOh rectifies this toyline by being awesome. If it's another Ace then I'll be pleased. If we wind up with another Beet then I may sell everything but the Ace.

Exactly. The vehicles themselves didn't even make sense with the motif. A semi-truck, a Submarine, a Race Car, and a jet? How piratey!

Yes to all of this. Especailly Daibouken. I didn't like alot of OO, but what I did had to do with the zords. They all had a purpose, they were all awesome, and they all made sense. Especailly Mercury Ranger's.

Den, I'll buy some when you're ready. I need me an Ace!

In what way exactly? It still had stupid parts that attach to places for the sake of being in the combo Shinkenoh's arms, Those sword things) And the whole combo is essential Daikai Shinkenoh with new arms standing on a moving platform.

Good points though those dont make me dislike it. I really hated that Ace's toes stick out of the gorilla legs like that but after a while I didnt notice them at all. Also you might not have the chest connected properly. The gorilla chest actually clips in place and will NOT disconnect if you peg it in the right place. Gobusteroh/Great Gobuster's head IS just a mask but thats not the first time for Sentai to do that.

TBH I found Engineoh G12 to be one of my favourite Sentai mechas. 12 vehicles that can form four mechas as well as combine together? Awesome.

I also agree that Samurai Ha Oh was terrible.

I'll give you that, it's not the first mask. I just feel that it's a pretty bad one. And as for that chest. Yes it does peg in, barely. Essentially friction is the only thing keeping it in place there. The tiny pegs that "lock" it in really don't hold much at all. I have to pickup the Oh by it's crotch to keep from knocking that chest piece out every time.

Because everything in the Gigazord made sense. The Clawzord's claws were part of it's final attack pattern, the drills from Tiger are the same. The only thing I didn't like was it flew. I know, it's a show. I know it's not real. But no way even in fantasy are you getting something like that airborne. Especailly airborne and flipping multiple times through the air. I'm sorry.

Having to make everything a big ol' clusterf**k by series' end is a major flaw with Sentai mecha as of late. It certainly doesn't help matters that 3 useful and cool looking vehicles combine into the beast that is Go-Buster Oh. Why can't we go back to having one main robot and one or two better ones to fall back on, like GoGoV and Megaranger did?

Exactly.

That's what Gokai-Oh should've been.

Personally, as someone who hasn't really enjoyed giant battles since Gekiranger, Go-Busters has really made me enjoy them. The way the show handles the mechs, focusing on having the individual members shine over the combinations is really nice. For the record, I really don't have a problem with the combination designs. I'm kinda glad they got away from the big torso+limb formers=robo format for a change.

Yeh I'm really bored with Limb formers. Shinkenger was interesting because they had individual forms but Gokaiger and Goseiger's was boring as hell. Glad this series got away from that. And no stupid accessory mechas (yet?)

It isn't? :D

To be fair, I always was partial to the G-12, I simply love that combination. However, I admit things can get crazily out of hand when attempting too large combinations.

For Go-busters it seemed everything would go right, they cut down the insane number of Zords and they make transformations more complicated. Sounds really good on paper, especially given how good Go-buster Ace turned out to be.

Yet, as we know, the results looked a bit messy. I wonder if they ended up trying too hard to be complicated and failed. Trying to imitate, in their own way, the "Bayformer" effect. While overly dumber down Sentai mecha (like Gokaioh) are boring, it is worse to have complicated designs that make no sense. At least Gokaioh looked great combined.

I do hope this year's season is an experiment to see what works. Go-busters occasionally tries too hard to be serious, losing that charm that Sentai always had in its absurdity. Yet, I'm glad they took this direction, it shows they're genuinely trying to find something that works instead of rehashing a boring 1 torso and 4 limb combination.

Know what I'd really like to see? Sentai take a page from the Brave series. Land Bison, Gaogaigar, something like that.

Sentai already are kinda brave like. What exactly do you want? Each ranger's mecha having its own bot mode?

Yes, Yes I do. Shogun Megazord, Super Turbo, Super Zeo, Mystic Force. I love those kinds of combinations.

Id say gobusters is pretty close. Even the big gattai is called GREAT gobuster.

No, Go-Busters is what happens when they design mechs without figuring out how they all fit together first. And when they become obsessed with leaving no parts left over.

While I agree with the first part, the second is a pretty good thing to obsess over I think.

Not when you neglect the first.

Indeed. Kanzen gokaioh was a nightmare. But while i agree it looks a bit cobbled together, in some respects i'd say it works. The helicopter blades becoming a huge v fin on his chest that is used as a weapon (mazinger esque), the rabbit arms becoming a huge jet pack, beets arms forming a huge spear (long time since weve had on of THOSE). I think its a neat design.

And I think the toy looks like a clusterfridge. It looks worse than G-12 Explosion, almost like they let one of the children of one of the designers go crazy with the glue. And then went "Eh, that works."

G12 was magnificent.

Looks like you misspelled horrible, honest mistake.

G-12 was just an impossible mass of plastic.

There are worse looking combos (samurai haoh, ground goseigreat/hyper gosei great)

G-12 is glorious.

Gahahaha.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/b...ntai/Go-on.jpg

That reminds me of how I still need Kyouryetsu-Oh to complete Minipla G-12. >_<

Apache Chief approves of this picture.

Hell yes. My G12 brotha!


I've loved that thing since the first time I saw it. Finally completed mine earlier this year too :D

I remember when you posted that on TFW, I was wondering how long before it'd make its way onto here :lol

Out of all the clustermuck mechs I love G-12 the most. It just works for me. Every part has its place and it looks like it can do some damage.

Okay. I watched Spada's (Baltmatrix) reveiw of Great Go-Buster, and Beet and Stag. And now that I saw it from all angles, saw how it connects, and understand why it looks like that. .. I kind of want one. I do. It's just so stupid but I want one.

But you will never get me to admit G-12 looks good. That thing... oh my god.

How can you dislike a combination infused with "the souls of 7 humans and 12 Engines"? :D