Uchu Sentai KyuRanger Episode 13- "Stinger Challengers His Brother!" Discussion
 

The newest Jark Matter Daikan has subjected Earth citizens to a toxin turning everyone into zombies. Stinger believes he recognizes the source...

This is surprising, only one Yossha Lucky this ep.

Hoshi Minato will make an appearance next ep

Now this was excellent. Less about Lucky and more about other characters and more of their development.

Pietty the next episode won't directly follow on it.

I liked this episode. But am I the only one that gets the feeling that Ryu Commander's helmet is a remold of KyoryuViolet? :lol

"Stinger challenges his brother!"
Proceeds to not have the 2 interact for even a second outside of flashbacks

This was such a good episode that I forgot that I was watching Kyuuranger.

Stinger and Champ becoming a team, the first-person perspective during the fight scenes, Ryu Commander slacking off during the battle and then still nailing a Jack Matter goon, Lucky throwing his sword into a Malister and giving Poison and Ring Star their Axe and Spear, Scorpio starting a zombie infection and later rider kicking his own subordinate.


Pity. Because I'm sure we won't get anything as good as this again. Although I hope to be proven wrong.

So next episode, seems like Hiroya Matsumoto, Mr. Magi Yellow/Beet Buster himself will be making a guest appearance as the gold alien pop sensation with a fro.

A Stinger/Champ story that wasn't overshadowed by Lucky?

YOSSHA L....

*(ahem...sorry)*

AWESOME. MORE!

Wow, an actually good-ish episode. Sadly like one out of three so far.

While I enjoyed the lack of Lucky and the focus on Stinger and Champ, I feel like they waited way too long for this. Do you really want me to believe Champ swallowed his anger for this long, and that Stinger was chill enough to simply let this guy hate him for no reason even though he had a perfect answer commander John Longbow could back up at any time? Screw you Kyuranger.

For some reason, I want to believe Stinger is actually that kind of person who gives zero fucks at all times and that he simply avoids the topic entirely (and Fish Sandwich will write three paragraphs trying to convince it's actually the case) but this is not how things work. They're both Kyurangers, and even though the commander isn't going to do anything about it himself a problem this big between two team members would not have simply sat there for like a month until Scorpio shows up. Especially not when the answer is so easy.

So yeah, that aside I liked it. Amazing how this show can shine if Lucky shuts the hell up and they actually focus on other characters for a short while. Plus I feel like the action this week was better than usual too. Some cool ego-perspective shots and a rather creative use of Kyu The Weapon.

To go with my helmet theory, I want to make this statement. Even in a Sentai series, Yuki Kubota is still doing Rider Kicks. :lolol

Oh hey, this episode wasn't bad.
Honestly, I'm surprised.
The focus on Stinger and Champ was great. I'm glad they finally addressed the animosity between the two, but this was a bit too bittersweet. They literally resolved it in one sentence. They brought up this plot point, let it sit for 9 episodes, and then resolve it with a single line? Fuck off.
I'm glad Kotaro was the one to get the talk with Stinger. I was honestly afraid Lucky would. Anyway, I knew Kotaro was going to leave, but I figured he was going to leave once the Kyurangers left Earth. Huh. Well, I hope he's not gone too long. I imagine his return from training will come alongside the debut of Ursa Major SkyBlue.

The combo of Champ and Stinger is a neat one, and I hope we see more of it soon. I like the idea of the two of them acting independently for the time being, it's something this show should've done more of. I hope this pans out well.
Scorpio is neat, but this episode didn't really give much, so I'm curious to see more.

Kyuranger quickly accelerates from annoying to average once the focus shifts from Lucky.

I guess the staff are realizing this is not the Yossha Lucky Show. Besides, he had a nice two-parter previously so that is good. :)

Well you actually admitted the episode was good so as a favor I'll just do it in two paragraphs and a pretty picture. :p

Was the whole Stinger/Champ thing really that much of a pacing issue? I've seen so much hate directed towards it but it seemed pretty clear they were shelving it for later when Stinger debuted and frankly 10 episodes of a show five times that length doesn't seem like a lot to me. The two haven't really interacted that much and when they do Champ is always quick to pout about it, so it's not like it was just forgotten about.

As for Stinger letting Champ hate his guts for "no reason", he explicitly states that he considers his brother's wrongs to be his own this episode, which absolutely fits the kind of character he is AND matches up really nicely with episode 3, where he explicitly took credit for the killing without actually saying he was the one who killed him.

http://i.imgur.com/bIrWDKq.jpg

Anyway, with my usual arguing out of the way for now (I swear we'll agree on something someday, Kiwami), this was a great episode. I was expecting just another "boring" setup but this was sort of the sequel to episode 3 I'd been wanting to see, bolstered by some above average action and the least amount of Lucky we've ever gotten so far. Good stuff.

EDIT: Also I just checked and unless I'm missing something this episode had a shockingly low よっしゃ　ラッキー！ count of two. Counting the narration at the start. What is this new spore of madness? :lol

Well, There was some good, and some bad:

The fight scenes were really good. Like, REALLY good. I really loved all of the 1st person shots, which I haven't seen since Amazons Season 1.

The plot was alright. Scorpio left a lot to be improved upon, but at least Champ doesn't hate Stinger's guts anymore!

Also, I don't think I've seen anyone in the thread mention this, but Kotaro leaving to "train" sounds like they don;t want to pay for this many actors, so they're rushing him off screen. I get the feeling that when the Kyurangers leave Earth, Kotaro will stay behind to tend to his brother. Just a small feeling....

Well, the episode was pretty decent. A bit excited for the next one though!

Kotaro and Stinger leaving puts Balance and Naga back in the limelight as they are gonna be Ryutei Oh's arms next ep. Also Raptor gets to be a limb again. ��������

I wouldn't entirely say it's resolved yet. I mean Champ definately has a bit more respect for Stinger but there's still cleary some tension between the two especially in that last scene where Stinger ignored his roll call.

I will say this episode did definately showcase something that I hope Kyuranger takes advantage of, that being the various different relationships and personality exchanges. With so many unique characters and personalities, there's potential for a wide variety of character interactions which this episode showcase with Stinger's interaction with Kotaro and Champ.

If we ever get an HD Sentai game similar to Battride War, where we get to fight Sentai villains, I want Scorpio on the top 5 list of Bosses chosen.

Next to Basco, Enter, Juzo, and Bajira.

With Stinger, Champ, and Kotaro taking a step back really looking forward to seeing Balance, Naga, and Raptor take on more of a bigger role for the time being.

Maybe, maybe not, it just felt really unnatural to me that a problem this big would be sidelined and only mentioned briefly for this long when it should affect the team in a much bigger way.

1/5 of a show is rather long, at least for this particular problem I think.

Yeah but that's the thing, do you really think Champ would let that be it? Just mentioning it every now and then? I mean he's a robot, but he acts human and every human I know would want to get to the bottom of this as fast as possible. Maybe he held it back for the team, pretty sure that is the reason, but as a team, they should've wanted to handle this sooner, especially since they had multiple episodes were Stinger and Champ didn't participate in the action.

Maybe they could've made this feel a bit more natural if they spend time cutting back to the ship and have the two clash some more with other team-mates stepping in and thus delaying the conflict. As opposed to having me believe Champ just holds back for this long.

Yeah as I said, I can believe Stinger being that guy but how this was delayed until Scorpio actually shows up is just a bit too convenient to me.

We agree on tons of stuff, I'm pretty sure of that. We just never make that big of a deal about it so no one remembers :lol

For clarity's sake I should probably mention that if they waited even a couple episodes longer than this to do something with this plot thread, I probably would agree it was pushing things, but as it is this feels about right. Earlier would've been nice too, but I don't find what we got unreasonable.

Yeah, more or less, actually. In terms of "solving the mystery" as it were, I think he was pretty content to just say "Yeah, you killed my creator" (and again, Stinger basically said he did it) without really caring about the details, and as far as the the "getting revenge" part goes, I think Champ has clearly been at least a little conflicted on the matter ever since Stinger joined up with the team properly.

Remember, this is a guy who's all about justice. I always got the impression from Champ's tone whenever he's talking crap about Stinger that he's sort of in denial. Wanting Stinger to be the guy that allows him to finally get his vengeance, but also begrudgingly accepting that he's a Kyuranger and thus someone chosen to help save the universe. It's not even just on the merit of him having a Kyutama or anything. He saw him save Kotarou and his brother while also bailing out the team, himself included, back in episode 5. Not to mention his utter lack of remotely sketchy behavior since.

I don't really think any of this is speculation on my part so much as it's just plain in the narrative, but even if it is speculation, there's at least as many ways for this to make sense as there are for it to not.

Hey, it's not my fault you decided not to post in the Ex-Aid discussion threads! :lol

Really cool episode. Scorpio is badass.

Enjoyed it a lot. I like how they still found the others things to do (i.e., spreading the antidote) even if they weren't selected by the Lucky Roulette.

Thank goodness, I didn't hear Yosha Lucky more than once.

Are they really doing away temporarily with Kotaru, Champ, and Stinger? Or they're still going to show them in bits in every episode.

It was a pretty good episode.

But a lot of it really did have to do with there being no Lucky. Seriously if they just cut back on the "YOSHA LUCKY!!!"'s, it'd be more enjoyable in general.

But yeah this kind of thing should have happened sooner. I'm glad it finally did, but it was a lingering awkwardness up until now that just really needed addressed.

And it kinda makes sense production-wise to have a few of the guys leave for a while (and hey maybe we'll see RyuTei KyurenOh with the 3 mecha that have been left out now, that will be neat), but 2 of them being Stinger and Champ leaves me pretty disappointed.